Neighbor's dog shot
#82
Spike
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Posts: 69
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
Concerning the guy in MO and property damage. If a group of dogs is habitually roaming the farm and chasing everything the see it's property damage. The property is a sanctuary for all sorts of wildlife. My mom, dad, brother, and I have worked our a** to make it what it is, a habitat for quail, deer, rabbits, turkey, and other birds. All we hunt is deer. And if dogs are habitually coming over and disturbing that habitat it's property damage. Paint the picture however you want, it's property damage.
#83
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
Some of you folks can spin it anyway you want and do all the preaching you want, but dogs can and do get out control of the owners with a regularity that most folks here acknowledge. If a dog escapes and gets shot without reason in many cases the law will not regard it as theowners fault as some here claim, it will be the person whopulled the trigger. YES, YES ,YES, people need to control their animals and if an animal is clearly being a nuisance there are times when they need to be taken down.On the other hand, any escaped dog does not automatically qualify for a death sentence. You really might want to check with your local lawauthorities about that. It is easy to play internet tough guy and Mr. Perfect whose dogs have never gotten out of his control (which I dont believe) and talk about dropping any dog that happens to be running lose. It will be a much different story if you get caught and the facts don't add up in your favor. I guess that I was just raised in a great area by a better class of people. In my neck of the woods you understand that people make mistakes.The world is not perfect and you try to help your neighbors withanimals that get loose, even when, GULP, it is somewhat of an inconvenience to you.You dont play Mr. macho and shoot them with the attitude that they deserved it just for being out side of the owners sight or for coming within sight of your deer stand. And the few people who do pull stunts like that are pretty low on the social order and pretty much find themselves as the ones who need to be confined to their own property because they arent welcome any place else. (Lanse quietly steps down from the soapbox, takes his ball, and goes home to watch Hogan's Heroes re-runs in honor of the Colonel Klinks of this thread)[8D]
#84
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
Boy this thread got railroaded from the opening post. Those who got sucked into it, report to the nearest mirror and say hello to an easy sucker.
FACT (as told by owner): Dog was running loose.
FACT: Who knows where the dog was, what the dog was doing while loose or what it may or may not have gotten into when running loose.
FACT: It is the dog owners responsibility to keep his dog(s) under control and either kenneled or leashed at all times.
FACT:JUST BECAUSE THE DOG WAS SHOT DOES NOT MEAN IT WAS A HUNTER WHO SHOT THE DOG.
FACT: JUST BECAUSE THE OWNER SAYS THE DOG WAS SHOT WITH A DEER SLUG DOES NOT MEAN THAT IS TRUE EITHER. MOST ANYPROJECTILE WITH SOME POWER BEHIND IT WOULD PASS RIGHT THRU A DOG AS MOST DEER SLUGS PASS THRU DEER - NOT TO MENTION A LEG. Could have been a .44 mag, a .30-30 .......
FACT: That dog could have just as easily been chasing someonesstock or trying to get some chickens when it was shot.
FACT: Some kids could have shot that dog.
BUT TO JUST PILE THE RESPONSIBILITY ON A HUNTER IS BS.
SHAME ONSOME OF YOU!
FACT (as told by owner): Dog was running loose.
FACT: Who knows where the dog was, what the dog was doing while loose or what it may or may not have gotten into when running loose.
FACT: It is the dog owners responsibility to keep his dog(s) under control and either kenneled or leashed at all times.
FACT:JUST BECAUSE THE DOG WAS SHOT DOES NOT MEAN IT WAS A HUNTER WHO SHOT THE DOG.
FACT: JUST BECAUSE THE OWNER SAYS THE DOG WAS SHOT WITH A DEER SLUG DOES NOT MEAN THAT IS TRUE EITHER. MOST ANYPROJECTILE WITH SOME POWER BEHIND IT WOULD PASS RIGHT THRU A DOG AS MOST DEER SLUGS PASS THRU DEER - NOT TO MENTION A LEG. Could have been a .44 mag, a .30-30 .......
FACT: That dog could have just as easily been chasing someonesstock or trying to get some chickens when it was shot.
FACT: Some kids could have shot that dog.
BUT TO JUST PILE THE RESPONSIBILITY ON A HUNTER IS BS.
SHAME ONSOME OF YOU!
#85
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
Good point Uncle Matt that it is wrong to assume that it was a hunter. If i recall, a while back one of your kids ended up in a bit of a jam because he wandered into the wrong place at the wrong time. But it turned out fine for him because some folks used some common sense and gave him the benefit of the doubt. Some folks here should use similar common sense[&:]
#86
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Illinois
Posts: 2,828
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
I've got two dogs. One a German Shepard/Rot mix she is 13 years and a yellow Lab about 7 months. I love them both to death but not before another family member. I've been in the stand before and have had what I thought my hunt ruined because of some pups running loose. They ran right under my stand, I could have shot all three. I killed a deer about 3 minutes after they went through, the deer came from the direction they ran. I would never shoot a dog while I'm out hunting or any other time for that matter. Only exception would be if it was attacking me, a family/friend, or one of my dogs. In my opinion if you shoot a dog and it's not attacking you, a loved one, or one of your other pets you are a no good piece of shiit.
#87
Guest
Posts: n/a
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
ORIGINAL: zrexpilot
bigcountry. On a farm theres no room for a chicken eating dog. Bottom line.
bigcountry. On a farm theres no room for a chicken eating dog. Bottom line.
Like I said, your buddies sound no different than the thugs in baltimore or DC. If they want to be like these people down there, its thier perogative.
#89
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
I do..I appreciate and value life....BUT, if my dog and a person were both stuck infront of a speeding train, I'm saving my dog...No question about it.
I have my own opinions on shooting dogs while hunting. To me there are a lot of factors that come into play beforethe dog gets killed, howeverto choose the life of a dog over a human is...........welll........pathetic and sad.[&o]
#90
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
ORIGINAL: Redskin_Archer
A person who shots a known pet dog should no longer hunt.
A person who shots a known pet dog should no longer hunt.
I feel this way because I own a farm where we raise cattle and raise a few deer for hobby. My property is not near any houses do there is no excuse why there should be dogs running my property. More than once I've come home to my deer slamming themselves against the fence in shear panic because some unresponsible owner's dog things it's a fun game to chase them around the outside of the fence. I have some pretty nice bucks that are tame as dogs that I've become attached to, and needless to say Mr. Puppy was introduced to Mr. 22-250 before my buck got his neck broke. Same goes with them chasing the cattle. Pen up your dogs or get a shock collar and you won't have any troubles.