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Schobs 12-11-2008 04:35 PM

RE: Wisconsin wolves & deer
 
Years and years of herd control is definitely taking its toll on the deer herd, but so does a pack of wolves reintroduced by the DNR. It's a proven fact that a pack of wolves will move into an area and eat all the deer they can catch (which includes fawns now only in the spring when they're vulnerable, but throughout the year) and when they've exhausted an area, they move on. We've seen tracks andhad a couple sighting over the past couple of years, along with a maturing forest and lots of bear sightings all impact the low numbers of deer in our area. There is no 1 reason deer numbers are down, and the DNR isn't totally to blame either, but it's really easy to point a finger.

wingchaser_labs 12-11-2008 06:14 PM

RE: Wisconsin wolves & deer
 

ORIGINAL: Centauri


ORIGINAL: Wingbone

Mostresearch has shown that bears have a bigger impact in deer than wolves. They prey on the fawns, which has a biiger impact on the population. We've also had a big increase in bears in the state. How come I never hear whining about how the bears are eating all the deer and the DNR is importing beas to thin the herd. Little Red Riding Hood is alive and well.
Brainwashed by the DNR.
Bears do have a much great effect on deer than wolves do expescially considering the number of bears to wolves. As much as wolf haters can't beleive it its true........... They are increasing bear tags to be issued for 2009 by like 150% cuz the bear pop is way higher than what they thought. WCL

wingchaser_labs 12-11-2008 06:18 PM

RE: Wisconsin wolves & deer
 

ORIGINAL: Centauri

I saw a bunch of tracks, and thats it. The DNR knows that wolves are causing deer population drops, but they just won't admit it.
They might not admit itbut thats just what they want. They want deer numbers to be lower. Why do you think they issue so many tags, and herd control units. and dont say its cuz the money because at $2 a bonus tag they arent making much. However to get more license sold saying herds are higher in number, maybe. WCL

wingchaser_labs 12-11-2008 06:26 PM

RE: Wisconsin wolves & deer
 
Right now the wolf pop. in WI they figure is right around 1000-1100 individuals. By this spring there will be about 1300 or so. Its too bad the frickin animal lovers got them put back on the list though. WI DNR only wanted 500 wolves in WI which the program was set out to reach. Now that they are over that there is nothign the DNR can do but get help from us to get them off the list. Not only because they need to be thinned in areas but because they could provide some extra revenue to the state with applications for tags. It would be a great way to fund the program make hunters/trappers more happy. Its gonna piss off alot of people too who are against it but it is well needed by the state on a social level more than anything and to help educate those who are against the killing of any wolf cuz they are a species just like any other that must be controled and maintained at a resonable level. WCL

wingchaser_labs 12-11-2008 06:31 PM

RE: Wisconsin wolves & deer
 

ORIGINAL: Schobs

Years and years of herd control is definitely taking its toll on the deer herd, but so does a pack of wolves reintroduced by the DNR. It's a proven fact that a pack of wolves will move into an area and eat all the deer they can catch (which includes fawns now only in the spring when they're vulnerable, but throughout the year) and when they've exhausted an area, they move on. We've seen tracks andhad a couple sighting over the past couple of years, along with a maturing forest and lots of bear sightings all impact the low numbers of deer in our area. There is no 1 reason deer numbers are down, and the DNR isn't totally to blame either, but it's really easy to point a finger.
Where do you get your information? Wolves do not move in like grasshoppers, kill everythign and then move on. Wolves are extremely territorial and have home ranges. They do not move around except for the adelecents who get kicked out. A pack can only consume on average 1-2 deer per week and much less in the summer time due to eating less and many other critters like rabbits and such to eat. They also target older weeker animals and yes young ones too (but not all of them), but this leaves the most productive reproducing age classes in most cases.WCL


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