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Im used to hunting the timber cuz it usually is really open...but for the past couple of weeks ive been hunting on this farm thats all timber but notopen its just THICK THICK THICK brush. And ive been using my 25/06 ackley and its not quite cutting it for the brush so heres the guns i have that ino will work but i need help choosing....(all guns reloaded for)

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the more lead (weight) flying down range, the more it takes to deflect. this is why i chose the slug gun.

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My first instinct was to say the 30-30, but I would use a low power scope and not open sights. No real reason, just what I've used in that situation.

Slug guns are great too, I imagine any shorter, quick handling gun would work just fine.

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There is no such thing as a "brush gun", and if you hit a twig with any projectile, it will be deflected somewhat.

I suggest cleaning out a couple of shooting lanes and using whichever gun are most comfortable with and shoot the best.

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X2
I'd have voted for none, but had to pick "other"!!!!

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In Ohio we cant use rifles.. so our choice regardless of where we hunt is shotgun, muzzle loader or certain hand guns.. I like to use a handgun when I know im going to be in heavy brush... much easier to move around and the shot is going to be a close one anyway.

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30-30 is the best known brush gun

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I've got some ruger .44 magnum semiauto carbines,2 topped with low power scopes mounted as low as possible and IMO they are the fastest,most deadly close range rifles PERIOD.

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30-30 FTW

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I use a Win 94 in 32Special

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X3, I believe heavy and slow = "brush gun" is a myth. I would pick the lightest ,shortest gun, in my collection to hunt brush.

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Thank you.

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The 243 has the best chance of dodging the brush, due to the smaller surface area of the bullet, which is about 60%less than a 30/30 or a 30/06 bullet. A bullet that will hit brush and still go straight is a MYTH[:@]. Choose the bullet that is less likely to hit a twig, or better yet wait fora clear shot.

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There is no such thing as a "brush" gun.

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No such thing as a brush gun. Just make sure you stay away from buckshot. That stuff should be illegal!!

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Obviously, the opinion of someone who has never used buckshot.

For hunting heavy cover, it would be my first choice, and I have killed more than 20 deer and hogs with 12 ga 00 with not a single animal taking a step after being hit.

Hunting with buckshot is much like hunting with archery tackle, you must know your limitations. Inside 50 yards, there is nothing deadlier.

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I use my Savage 300 Model 99f to do the trick.

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Sorry retrieverman...I've used it and I've seen it used. I've patterned it with up to a super full choke out to 50 yards and even then it stinks.

If your shooting 12 inch groups with it bless you but I don't buy for a second that of 20 big game animalsyou have shot with it none has taken a step. Penetration is generally poor and what is it .22 caliber?

I'm looking for more than randon pellet placement. The stuff stinks and shoudn't be used for deer.

I will however defend to the death your right to use it.

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Buy it or not, I couldn't care less. I shoot Remington 3" magnum 00 buck out of a Benelli Super 90 with a 21" barrel and Patternmaster choke.

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I agree with retrieverman any bullet will be deflected by brush. My advice is use a accurate rifle with scope where your can pick out holes threw the brush to shoot through.

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DING DING DING we have a winner! ;)

The smaller the diameter of the bullet the better it is able to get through brush. There was a test done on this very subject a few years ago. A deer shaped target was set up 10 yards behind a brush pile and everything from .223 to 45-70 was shot through the brush several times to see what the "brush busting" capabilites were for each cartridge. The .22-250 did the best by a large margin due to the bullet being the smallest bullet tested and its high velocity. The larger diameter the bulletand /orthe slower the bulletwas firedthe more it was deflected.

So, out of the ones you have listed the best "brush busting" cartridge would be the .243.

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Knight KRB7 w/85 grains 777 powder and a 460gr Nex conical lead bullet. If that doesn't get thru you need a brush hog. ;)

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30 -30

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Retieverman....I know each of us care not what the other thinks but I would expect that you would not think buckshot was deadly in the hands of a guy shooting 50 yards with a modified choke and 2 3/4 inch shells and that deer are not birds.

You clearly have a specialized system for using buckshot where as the average guy uses it to make up for lack of shooting ability or a license to take poor shots at moving deer. I was demeaning buckshot primarily due to how I see it being used.

Good luck in the woods Bud and stay safe.

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Planter
I understand what you are saying and really wouldn't ordinarily recommend buckshot either, BUT when someone comes on here asking about a "brush gun", my red flag always goes up. I have killed in the neighborhood of 200 deer and NUMEROUS hogs, and I have taken my share of low percentage shots through brush. The outcome has never been good. There is not a rifle caliber out there that is made to shoot through a twig, and in the case of brush hunting, buckshot is the most "logical" choice.

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I think the term "brush gun" is a misnomer. When I think of "brush gun" I'm not thinking of something that will not deflect off of a twig (which, as stated by most of you, any caliber will do)I think of a rifle that is short, fast-pointing, a sighting system that allows for quick target acquisition and powerful enough for your quarry out to about 100 yards. To me, that is a marlin 336C in 30-30 caliber for deer.

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This is exactly what it means to shoot a brush gun. Anyone looking for a gun to penetrate the brush before it impacts the desired target, should be working on their hunting skills, not a"better brush gun".

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I agree with both of you as what SHOULD be the definition of a brush gun. BUT, this site has a large percentage of novice hunters, and I think making any assumption as to what a poster means by a "brush gun" is a mistake.