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Full Blown Rut 11-26-2008 08:34 AM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 
i don no any thing about them but i would stay away lol

EnglishHope 11-26-2008 08:52 AM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 
What's not to believe about them?? Infact, my uncle used to see them all the time.

jayman035 11-26-2008 09:06 AM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 

ORIGINAL: EnglishHope

What's not to believe about them?? Infact, my uncle used to see them all the time.
true that. people will believe in UFO's, bigfoot, warewolves and all that crap, but when it comes to a sighting of an animal that you can see at the zoo, OH NO there could be one of them out there. LOL:D

Cannonw24 11-29-2008 09:31 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 
I hope im allowed to do this. I dont really know what to think of it. We get a lot of folks down here that say they see these cougars or panthers or whatever anyway check it out at www.listentotheeagle.com
go down to the black panthers in mississippi and click watch it.

jayman035 11-29-2008 09:37 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 
wow, that thing was pretty big...

Cannonw24 11-29-2008 09:42 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 
yeah could be a fake but i dunno. That website is a guy who does an outdoor show every monday night here in southwest mississippi. they offer 10 grand for a picture of a panther cause everybody claims to see them..

Jimimac 11-30-2008 03:13 AM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 
On election day they were intimidating potential Republican voters.

Cbowhunter1 12-01-2008 03:02 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 

ORIGINAL: Cbowhunter1

I have actually seen one, whether you believe it or not is regardless cause I know. This happened 2 years ago while hunting panther swamp wma land in yazoo, ms (32,000 acres of protected land).I was going on a morning hunt and so I went to a remote part of the land where no oneever huntedand set up my climber about 400 yards in the woods and climbed up about 30 ft in the tree. About an hour later I heard a couple high pitched screams bout 100 yards off.Next thing u know i see something black moving through woodsreally slow and stealthily. I knew right off the bat it was panther so i raised up my scope and sure enough it was.Itcame within 50 yards of me butnever saw me.
Later that day I talked to a game warden and told him about the sighting and he wanted to know exactly where I saw him so I showed him on the map. I then asked him why it wasn'tacknowledged as an animal in the parkand he said that in order for it to be listed there has to be a"confirmed population" but then went on to say that it is an endangered species and that if anyone kills one in the park then they would beprosecuted under federal law for the killing of an endangered species animal.

brushbuck28 12-01-2008 03:19 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 
I live in northern WI. My Uncle and I saw a melanistic(black) cougar jump the grade in front of us while grouse hunting about 7yrs ago. Broad daylight less than 75 yds. For sure a BIG cat. DNR's full of the poop no cougars in WI.

SteveBNy 12-01-2008 03:50 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 
He better play the lottery - seeing things that don't exist.
There has never been a black cougar. They lack the gene that allows it.

Steve

Cannonw24 12-01-2008 03:53 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 
Give me some input on the video i posted up there^

okcaveman 12-01-2008 05:06 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 

ORIGINAL: SteveBNy

He better play the lottery - seeing things that don't exist.
There has never been a black cougar. They lack the gene that allows it.

Steve
and nothing has ever been known to mutate has it? i mean bacteria evolve. bugs become resist to pesticides. no no way that a couger could possibly had a mutation in its dna and changed colors. no offense man but really do you believe everything that your told? there are many things that are unexplainable but true. this just may be one of them.

as far as the video, it looks real enough but the way the cameraman keeps flipping to the deer makes me wonder. if it was me and i was getting video of a black panther then that camera wouldnt waver an inch from that cat

SteveBNy 12-01-2008 05:23 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 

no way that a couger could possibly had a mutation in its dna and changed colors. no offense man but really do you believe everything that your told? there are many things that are unexplainable but true. this just may be one of them.
I believe what is true until someone can show its not.
Show me the science that proves a black cougar can happen - good luck.

Studies have shown eyewitness reports to be about the most unreliable evidence that can be presented.
What's unexplainable is people's refusal to admit what they think they see and what they really see can be entirely 2 different things.



brushbuck28 12-01-2008 05:35 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 
I know what I saw. I can't convince anyone nor do I want to try. It was a 40-55lblong tailed BLACK( saw it on a beautiful sunny day) cat in the middle of an open logging grade.It could have been and escaped exotic pet but it was deffinatly a large cat. Not a bear , fisher, bobcat ,dog, wolf,pony ,lllama ...should I go on? At the distance we saw it s there was no mistaking it's size or color.

Cannonw24 12-01-2008 05:37 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 
now I am super skeptical about black panthers, Im the type of guy thats gonna have to see a pictur from somebody I know well to believe, or see one myself. however, to say that it genetically cannot happen is more than likely wrong. Have you ever seen a picture of an albino deer? Okay thought so, The opposite of albino is mellanistic. I know it happens in deer but is much more rare than albino, why could it not happen in a cougar?

jayman035 12-01-2008 05:52 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 
hey im for the black cat thing, but to save upsetting people maybe we should stop calling them cougars, for some reason a black cougar is a touchy subject:)and black panther sound so much cooler. :D

oh and cannonw24 that video was interesting, but like mentioned, if i had of seen one of those black cougarpanthers in front of me i would have kept the camera on it, it just opens it up for nah sayers. but good video. i am keen to see more footage if anyone has any?? but no black cougars just panthers please :D:D

SteveBNy 12-01-2008 06:01 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 

Have you ever seen a picture of an albino deer? Okay thought so, The opposite of albino is mellanistic. I know it happens in deer but is much more rare than albino, why could it not happen in a cougar?
I have seen albino deer - I can take you to see several. They exist because they have the gene that allows it to happen.

The gene for melanistic does not and has never existed for cougars/PANTHERS.
You can wish dream and hope for it, but it cannot happen.

Steve

okcaveman 12-01-2008 06:44 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 

ORIGINAL: SteveBNy


Have you ever seen a picture of an albino deer? Okay thought so, The opposite of albino is mellanistic. I know it happens in deer but is much more rare than albino, why could it not happen in a cougar?
I have seen albino deer - I can take you to see several. They exist because they have the gene that allows it to happen.

The gene for melanistic does not and has never existed for cougars/PANTHERS.
You can wish dream and hope for it, but it cannot happen.

Steve
but that is just the point. it can happen. maybe it hasnt and we are all wrong, but it can happen. genes mutate. bacteria and insects are to prime examples because they are so numerous and multiply so readily. but bacteria mutate and become resist to medicine. insects mutate and become resistant to pesticides. thats why every few years they switch pesticides. the point is mutations happen. nobody can say for sure that it is impossible. maybe it hasnt been documented, maybe it hasnt happened. but it is possible

Arrowmaster 12-01-2008 07:33 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 
Well that video looked real enough to me.

SteveBNy 12-01-2008 07:49 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 
I give - the tooth fairy, easter bunny and santa are all real as well.
Lots are sure they have seen them, and hey, they could be real.

Steve

jayman035 12-01-2008 08:02 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 
how can you compare kids stories to this?? its not as if these people are making this up for sh*ts and giggles.. if they say they saw it then they did, who is anyone to call these people liars?? and i havnt seen any proof that this could not happen. didnteverything on this planet get the way it was from some form of evolution, just because its isnt in the latest animal encyclopedia dosnt mean it dosnt exsist, new species are discovered every year.

jeremyjms06 12-01-2008 08:12 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 
i look at it like this, if it can happen in leopards and jags and bobcats then why couldn't it happen in cougars?? just because there has never been any solid proof that they exist doesnt mean they dont. like mentioned above, new species are discovered all the time. hell there was just that article that came out about that little gremlin looking thing that scientist thought had been extinct for 85 years and then they just found one alive.

gypsybill 12-01-2008 08:30 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 

ORIGINAL: jeremyjms06

i look at it like this, if it can happen in leopards and jags and bobcats then why couldn't it happen in cougars?? just because there has never been any solid proof that they exist doesnt mean they dont. like mentioned above, new species are discovered all the time. hell there was just that article that came out about that little gremlin looking thing that scientist thought had been extinct for 85 years and then they just found one alive.
i look at it like this, if it can happen in leopards and jags and bobcats then why couldn't it happen in cougars??

Because science says it can't. It is not possible for a cougar to be black. When experts in the field of genetics agree that it can't happen, don't you have to give that a little weight in your decision in what you believe about black panthers?

just because there has never been any solid proof that they exist doesnt mean they dont.

That is exactly what it means. How can you believe in something when there is no"solid proof"of its existence?

like mentioned above, new species are discovered all the time.

Well,how about naminga few of them for us? How aboutstarting yourlistwith new species roughly equivalent to a cougar andlocated in theUS.You can then work down from there.

jayman035 12-01-2008 09:29 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 

ORIGINAL: gypsybill


ORIGINAL: jeremyjms06

i look at it like this, if it can happen in leopards and jags and bobcats then why couldn't it happen in cougars?? just because there has never been any solid proof that they exist doesnt mean they dont. like mentioned above, new species are discovered all the time. hell there was just that article that came out about that little gremlin looking thing that scientist thought had been extinct for 85 years and then they just found one alive.
i look at it like this, if it can happen in leopards and jags and bobcats then why couldn't it happen in cougars??

Because science says it can't. It is not possible for a cougar to be black. When experts in the field of genetics agree that it can't happen, don't you have to give that a little weight in your decision in what you believe about black panthers?

just because there has never been any solid proof that they exist doesnt mean they dont.

That is exactly what it means. How can you believe in something when there is no"solid proof"of its existence?

like mentioned above, new species are discovered all the time.

Well,how about naminga few of them for us? How aboutstarting yourlistwith new species roughly equivalent to a cougar andlocated in theUS.You can then work down from there.

its not about naming the new species, and confining my answer to cats discovered in the u.s. aint gunna happen coz it hasnt happend. all im saying is that there are new species discovered all the time and 3 of them have been big cats, in borneo, and some asian islands. and cross breeding could be a result of a large black cat. as mentioned in http://www.messybeast.com/genetics/new-species.htm

and everyone is arguing over this as if its a cougar that this thread is about. its about a sighting of a black cat, not any specific black cat, just a big black cat.

so instead of trying to prove everyone wrong why dont you just sit back and enjoy the conversation, like gypsybill said at the start of the thread he wants help to figure it out. so offer this thread something constructive, there are too many negitive people on this forum.

Cannonw24 12-01-2008 09:51 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 

ORIGINAL: gypsybill


ORIGINAL: jeremyjms06

i look at it like this, if it can happen in leopards and jags and bobcats then why couldn't it happen in cougars?? just because there has never been any solid proof that they exist doesnt mean they dont. like mentioned above, new species are discovered all the time. hell there was just that article that came out about that little gremlin looking thing that scientist thought had been extinct for 85 years and then they just found one alive.
i look at it like this, if it can happen in leopards and jags and bobcats then why couldn't it happen in cougars??

Because science says it can't. It is not possible for a cougar to be black. When experts in the field of genetics agree that it can't happen, don't you have to give that a little weight in your decision in what you believe about black panthers?

just because there has never been any solid proof that they exist doesnt mean they dont.

That is exactly what it means. How can you believe in something when there is no"solid proof"of its existence?

like mentioned above, new species are discovered all the time.

Well,how about naminga few of them for us? How aboutstarting yourlistwith new species roughly equivalent to a cougar andlocated in theUS.You can then work down from there.
how about you start us a list of scientists that you know, that say its geneticly not possible,BIG MONEY GRIP!

jeremyjms06 12-01-2008 10:09 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 

ORIGINAL: gypsybill


ORIGINAL: jeremyjms06

i look at it like this, if it can happen in leopards and jags and bobcats then why couldn't it happen in cougars?? just because there has never been any solid proof that they exist doesnt mean they dont. like mentioned above, new species are discovered all the time. hell there was just that article that came out about that little gremlin looking thing that scientist thought had been extinct for 85 years and then they just found one alive.
i look at it like this, if it can happen in leopards and jags and bobcats then why couldn't it happen in cougars??

Because science says it can't. It is not possible for a cougar to be black. When experts in the field of genetics agree that it can't happen, don't you have to give that a little weight in your decision in what you believe about black panthers?

just because there has never been any solid proof that they exist doesnt mean they dont.

That is exactly what it means. How can you believe in something when there is no"solid proof"of its existence?

like mentioned above, new species are discovered all the time.

Well,how about naminga few of them for us? How aboutstarting yourlistwith new species roughly equivalent to a cougar andlocated in theUS.You can then work down from there.
Why does it have to be equivalent to a cougar?? but if an equivalent is what you want then read number 1 on my list. a new species discovery is a new species discory proving that scientist do not know exactly what exsist and what doesn't. But if a list of new species will make you feel better then here you go:

1.The Borneo Leopard- A new species of Leopard was discovered and classified as a new species in March of 2007.
2.The giant peccary (Pecari maximus) a type of pig was discovered living in the Brazilian rainforrest in late 2007
3. 3 different species of flyingMouse Lemurs were discovered and classified as new species living in Madagascar in July of 2006
4. a new species of snake called the White-Lipped KeelBack was discovered living in a remote part of Vietnam in Sept. of 2007
5.A new species of monkey called the Gray-Cheeked Mangabeys was discovered in Uganda was discovered in early 2007
6.A new tree rat was discovered in mid 2007 and has yet to be named in Macchu Picchu
7.A new species of whale called the Rorqual Whate was discovered in Japan in mid 2007.
8.A new species ofmonkey called the Arunachal Monkey was discovered in Indonesia in late 2004
9.A new species of Kangaroo that lives in the trees was discovered in Australia in Jan. 2006 and was officially named the Golden-Mantled Tree Kangaroo.
10.A new species of lizard was discovered in 2007 in Eastern India. The new species is legless and has yet to be named.

There's a short lst of 10 new species that were thought to have never existed. The very first one on the list is a species of "big cats". There are several other mammals on that list and I'm not even gonna try and start a list of all the undersea creatures and new species of birds being discovered.... way too many to list. Early this month scientist found a species of Penguin living in New Zealand that they thought went extinct over 500 years ago and here they are living in todays workd and never went extinct. Scientist don't always know what their talking about..... more of their theories are based on assumptions of what they feel is scientifically correct. If you believe everything that scientist say then you must not believe that God created us then because scientifically speaking thats impossible. Scientist aren't always right.... just because they have that paper listing them as scientist doesn't exactly mean that they know everything. Almost all species of animal have a gene that can cause a color phase.... Doberman Pinchers..... they have gene that produces all white.... Jags,bobcats and Leopards have a black color phase, Killer whales even have an albino and an all black phase..... black bears have a cinnoman color phase......deer have an albino phase..... racoons have an all black phase.... it's very possible that cougars can have a black phase and be all black, just because it hasn't been recorded doesn't mean it cant happen.

gypsybill 12-01-2008 10:10 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 

ORIGINAL: jayman035


ORIGINAL: gypsybill


ORIGINAL: jeremyjms06

i look at it like this, if it can happen in leopards and jags and bobcats then why couldn't it happen in cougars?? just because there has never been any solid proof that they exist doesnt mean they dont. like mentioned above, new species are discovered all the time. hell there was just that article that came out about that little gremlin looking thing that scientist thought had been extinct for 85 years and then they just found one alive.
i look at it like this, if it can happen in leopards and jags and bobcats then why couldn't it happen in cougars??

Because science says it can't. It is not possible for a cougar to be black. When experts in the field of genetics agree that it can't happen, don't you have to give that a little weight in your decision in what you believe about black panthers?

just because there has never been any solid proof that they exist doesnt mean they dont.

That is exactly what it means. How can you believe in something when there is no"solid proof"of its existence?

like mentioned above, new species are discovered all the time.

Well,how about naminga few of them for us? How aboutstarting yourlistwith new species roughly equivalent to a cougar andlocated in theUS.You can then work down from there.

its not about naming the new species, and confining my answer to cats discovered in the u.s. aint gunna happen coz it hasnt happend. all im saying is that there are new species discovered all the time and 3 of them have been big cats, in borneo, and some asian islands. and cross breeding could be a result of a large black cat. as mentioned in http://www.messybeast.com/genetics/new-species.htm

and everyone is arguing over this as if its a cougar that this thread is about. its about a sighting of a black cat, not any specific black cat, just a big black cat.

No, the thread is about a cougar/jaguar cat, not just any cat.

so instead of trying to prove everyone wrong why dont you just sit back and enjoy the conversation, like gypsybill said at the start of the thread he wants help to figure it out. so offer this thread something constructive, there are too many negitive people on this forum.

Hey genius, I am Gypsybill. I also don't need to sit back and do anything, I started the thread.

Cannonw24 12-01-2008 10:13 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 
D@MN MAN I dont think he really thought you could give him a list, and that was quick too... GayPsyBIll got TOLD!

gypsybill 12-01-2008 10:21 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 

ORIGINAL: jeremyjms06


ORIGINAL: gypsybill


ORIGINAL: jeremyjms06

i look at it like this, if it can happen in leopards and jags and bobcats then why couldn't it happen in cougars?? just because there has never been any solid proof that they exist doesnt mean they dont. like mentioned above, new species are discovered all the time. hell there was just that article that came out about that little gremlin looking thing that scientist thought had been extinct for 85 years and then they just found one alive.
i look at it like this, if it can happen in leopards and jags and bobcats then why couldn't it happen in cougars??

Because science says it can't. It is not possible for a cougar to be black. When experts in the field of genetics agree that it can't happen, don't you have to give that a little weight in your decision in what you believe about black panthers?

just because there has never been any solid proof that they exist doesnt mean they dont.

That is exactly what it means. How can you believe in something when there is no"solid proof"of its existence?

like mentioned above, new species are discovered all the time.

Well,how about naminga few of them for us? How aboutstarting yourlistwith new species roughly equivalent to a cougar andlocated in theUS.You can then work down from there.
Why does it have to be equivalent to a cougar?? but if an equivalent is what you want then read number 1 on my list. a new species discovery is a new species discory proving that scientist do not know exactly what exsist and what doesn't. But if a list of new species will make you feel better then here you go:

1.The Borneo Leopard- A new species of Leopard was discovered and classified as a new species in March of 2007.
2.The giant peccary (Pecari maximus) a type of pig was discovered living in the Brazilian rainforrest in late 2007
3. 3 different species of flyingMouse Lemurs were discovered and classified as new species living in Madagascar in July of 2006
4. a new species of snake called the White-Lipped KeelBack was discovered living in a remote part of Vietnam in Sept. of 2007
5.A new species of monkey called the Gray-Cheeked Mangabeys was discovered in Uganda was discovered in early 2007
6.A new tree rat was discovered in mid 2007 and has yet to be named in Macchu Picchu
7.A new species of whale called the Rorqual Whate was discovered in Japan in mid 2007.
8.A new species ofmonkey called the Arunachal Monkey was discovered in Indonesia in late 2004
9.A new species of Kangaroo that lives in the trees was discovered in Australia in Jan. 2006 and was officially named the Golden-Mantled Tree Kangaroo.
10.A new species of lizard was discovered in 2007 in Eastern India. The new species is legless and has yet to be named.

There's a short lst of 10 new species that were thought to have never existed. The very first one on the list is a species of "big cats". There are several other mammals on that list and I'm not even gonna try and start a list of all the undersea creatures and new species of birds being discovered.... way too many to list. Early this month scientist found a species of Penguin living in New Zealand that they thought went extinct over 500 years ago and here they are living in todays workd and never went extinct. Scientist don't always know what their talking about..... more of their theories are based on assumptions of what they feel is scientifically correct. If you believe everything that scientist say then you must not believe that God created us then because scientifically speaking thats impossible. Scientist aren't always right.... just because they have that paper listing them as scientist doesn't exactly mean that they know everything. Almost all species of animal have a gene that can cause a color phase.... Doberman Pinchers..... they have gene that produces all white.... Jags,bobcats and Leopards have a black color phase, Killer whales even have an albino and an all black phase..... black bears have a cinnoman color phase......deer have an albino phase..... racoons have an all black phase.... it's very possible that cougars can have a black phase and be all black, just because it hasn't been recorded doesn't mean it cant happen.
Interesting list but I didn't see anything equivalent to a cougar in the US and that is the area and type of animal we are talking about. There is simply no proof other than unreliable sightings of a black cougar in the US. Science might not know everything but a cougar's ability to be melanistic would be one of those areas I would think that they would have pretty well covered. There is simply no proof that black cougar's exist in the US as far as I can tell from what little looking I have done. So far, all that has been offered for proof on this thread are sightings like those of UFOs or Bigfoot and a lot of belief. No proof or any evidence at all. You say scientists are not always right. Maybe not, but that is the way I am going to bet until someone comes up with proof otherwise.

jayman035 12-01-2008 10:22 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 
HAHA gypsybill whats with the attitude? this is what im talking about. you start the thread asking for an explination and now you have done a complete backflip and and turn on the people who are trying to give you your answer...[:'(]

Cannonw24 12-01-2008 10:25 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 
check out the panther on www.listentotheeagle.com prove that its a fake, nobody else can BILL

gypsybill 12-01-2008 10:29 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 

ORIGINAL: Cannonw24

D@MN MAN I dont think he really thought you could give him a list, and that was quick too... GayPsyBIll got TOLD!
I think that there are new species being found in remote unexplored parts of the world is pretty much common knowledge but as I asked what about something equivalent to a cougar type animal in the US? After all, are we not talking about this country? I bet the list gets much shorter when the list is confined to this country.

So you call me Gay on an Internet forum. You must be quite the man. That is the best you can come up with?



jeremyjms06 12-01-2008 10:32 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 

ORIGINAL: gypsybill


ORIGINAL: jeremyjms06


ORIGINAL: gypsybill


ORIGINAL: jeremyjms06

i look at it like this, if it can happen in leopards and jags and bobcats then why couldn't it happen in cougars?? just because there has never been any solid proof that they exist doesnt mean they dont. like mentioned above, new species are discovered all the time. hell there was just that article that came out about that little gremlin looking thing that scientist thought had been extinct for 85 years and then they just found one alive.
i look at it like this, if it can happen in leopards and jags and bobcats then why couldn't it happen in cougars??

Because science says it can't. It is not possible for a cougar to be black. When experts in the field of genetics agree that it can't happen, don't you have to give that a little weight in your decision in what you believe about black panthers?

just because there has never been any solid proof that they exist doesnt mean they dont.

That is exactly what it means. How can you believe in something when there is no"solid proof"of its existence?

like mentioned above, new species are discovered all the time.

Well,how about naminga few of them for us? How aboutstarting yourlistwith new species roughly equivalent to a cougar andlocated in theUS.You can then work down from there.
Why does it have to be equivalent to a cougar?? but if an equivalent is what you want then read number 1 on my list. a new species discovery is a new species discory proving that scientist do not know exactly what exsist and what doesn't. But if a list of new species will make you feel better then here you go:

1.The Borneo Leopard- A new species of Leopard was discovered and classified as a new species in March of 2007.
2.The giant peccary (Pecari maximus) a type of pig was discovered living in the Brazilian rainforrest in late 2007
3. 3 different species of flyingMouse Lemurs were discovered and classified as new species living in Madagascar in July of 2006
4. a new species of snake called the White-Lipped KeelBack was discovered living in a remote part of Vietnam in Sept. of 2007
5.A new species of monkey called the Gray-Cheeked Mangabeys was discovered in Uganda was discovered in early 2007
6.A new tree rat was discovered in mid 2007 and has yet to be named in Macchu Picchu
7.A new species of whale called the Rorqual Whate was discovered in Japan in mid 2007.
8.A new species ofmonkey called the Arunachal Monkey was discovered in Indonesia in late 2004
9.A new species of Kangaroo that lives in the trees was discovered in Australia in Jan. 2006 and was officially named the Golden-Mantled Tree Kangaroo.
10.A new species of lizard was discovered in 2007 in Eastern India. The new species is legless and has yet to be named.

There's a short lst of 10 new species that were thought to have never existed. The very first one on the list is a species of "big cats". There are several other mammals on that list and I'm not even gonna try and start a list of all the undersea creatures and new species of birds being discovered.... way too many to list. Early this month scientist found a species of Penguin living in New Zealand that they thought went extinct over 500 years ago and here they are living in todays workd and never went extinct. Scientist don't always know what their talking about..... more of their theories are based on assumptions of what they feel is scientifically correct. If you believe everything that scientist say then you must not believe that God created us then because scientifically speaking thats impossible. Scientist aren't always right.... just because they have that paper listing them as scientist doesn't exactly mean that they know everything. Almost all species of animal have a gene that can cause a color phase.... Doberman Pinchers..... they have gene that produces all white.... Jags,bobcats and Leopards have a black color phase, Killer whales even have an albino and an all black phase..... black bears have a cinnoman color phase......deer have an albino phase..... racoons have an all black phase.... it's very possible that cougars can have a black phase and be all black, just because it hasn't been recorded doesn't mean it cant happen.
Interesting list but I didn't see anything equivalent to a cougar in the US and that is the area and type of animal we are talking about. There is simply no proof other than unreliable sightings of a black cougar in the US. Science might not know everything but a cougar's ability to be melanistic would be one of those areas I would think that they would have pretty well covered. There is simply no proof that black cougar's exist in the US as far as I can tell from what little looking I have done. So far, all that has been offered for proof on this thread are sightings like those of UFOs or Bigfoot and a lot of belief. No proof or any evidence at all. You say scientists are not always right. Maybe not, but that is the way I am going to bet until someone comes up with proof otherwise.
Are you serious?? You really dont think that a Leopard and Cougar have anything in common??? They are classified in the same family of species. Who cares where they live, you asked for a list of newly discovered species and thats what I gave you and the very first one on my list was a "big cat". Scientist just now discovered this cat so who's to say that they just haven't stumbled across a black phased cougar yet?? And not only did I mention a newly discovered "big cat" but I named one that has a black color phase. Your asking me to show you something that is almost impossible... your bacically asking me to show you an new breed of "big cat" in the US. We have cougars and the small stock of jags with the exception of bobcats and thats it. I can't name you and equivelant that lives inside the US cuz we only really have one "big cat" here. Showing you that a new species of Leopard should be enough proof that not all "big cat" discoveries have been made yet. Maybe black phased cougars don't exsist but I'm not ruling out the possibility that they do either just based on what scientist say they know.... obviously from my last post scientist don't know everything that they thought they did... a penguin that they (scientist) said went extinct over 500 years ago... guess what... they never went extinct and was here the whole time.... just an example of how much scientist really know. Scientist know what doesn't exist until someone proves them wrong.... and trust me they have been proven wrong many many times before. Big Bang theory...... nah, I think I'll believe in my faith that God created earth and man even though scientifically speaking it's not possible.

Cannonw24 12-01-2008 10:32 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 
DId you not watch the video? Its taken in mississippi, last time i checked we are still in the U.S.A down here..
Do you have a problem with gay people, that was a typo.. Mr. Gypsy

gypsybill 12-01-2008 10:39 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 

ORIGINAL: Cannonw24

check out the panther on www.listentotheeagle.com prove that its a fake, nobody else can BILL
I don't think some of you guys actually read or understand what some of the rest of us are saying. I don't have to prove anything a fake. I don't say that black panthers don't exist in the US. I don't believe that theyexist based on the limited evidence that I have seen. No reasonable proof has come to my attention. The burden of proof is on those that claim that these animals exist not on the rest of us to prove that they don't exist. As far as the video...have you seen the one where the great white shark jumps out of the ocean and bites the helicopter and brings it down? A video is no proof of an animals existence. If that were the case then Bigfoot would be a fact. I guess you believe in Bigfoot since there are videos of it?

gypsybill 12-01-2008 10:44 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 

ORIGINAL: Cannonw24

DId you not watch the video? Its taken in mississippi, last time i checked we are still in the U.S.A down here..
Do you have a problem with gay people, that was a typo.. Mr. Gypsy
No.

That was no typo. You thought you were being clever with the gay thing. At least own up to what you do.

jayman035 12-01-2008 10:54 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 

ORIGINAL: gypsybill


ORIGINAL: Cannonw24

DId you not watch the video? Its taken in mississippi, last time i checked we are still in the U.S.A down here..
Do you have a problem with gay people, that was a typo.. Mr. Gypsy
No.

That was no typo. You thought you were being clever with the gay thing. At least own up to what you do.
LOL

gypsybill 12-01-2008 10:59 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 

ORIGINAL: Cannonw24

check out the panther on www.listentotheeagle.com prove that its a fake, nobody else can BILL
I did watch the video and didn't find it very credible. It reminded me of some of the Bigfoot footage I have seen.I think this video could have easily been faked. I am not saying thatit is a fake but just that it is not difficult to fake videos such as this. I could offer my critique but I am not qualified to offer more than a novice opinion onany video. It was unconvincing for me.

jayman035 12-01-2008 11:09 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 
yea the problem with the video is how jumpy it is, and it keeps cutting back to the deer. but at the start of the video it pans all the way up to the cat, that is the only part of it that would convince me of it being real. other than that its a bit iffy. like i said before, if there is anyother footage of it that would be great. do you know where the cat was filmed in mississippi?

gypsybill 12-01-2008 11:21 PM

RE: Black Panther seen while deer hunting
 

ORIGINAL: jayman035

HAHA gypsybill whats with the attitude? this is what im talking about. you start the thread asking for an explination and now you have done a complete backflip and and turn on the people who are trying to give you your answer...[:'(]
Sorry, I must have missed this post. No attitude, just talking. You are mistaken I didn't ask for an explination but just "what do you guys know about them?" Just a conversation starter. No complete backflip as you say. I turned on the people trying to give me an answer? Once again you are mistaken. I haven't turned on anybody. Why would my opinion not be valid?


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