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The Great Debate Over Baiting

Old 11-20-2008, 10:29 AM
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In my neck of the woods, an 80 acre cut corn field is gonna have a lot of trails running in and out of it. And I have also set up stands on a well-travelled deer trail only to have deer come through from another direction without even using the trail. So, still different from being in a situation where you know a deer is going to end up in a specific baited spot no matter which way he comes from.

But that's just me. I don't use food plots, scents, calls, etc.I just set up in a good spot and if i get a deer, then I get a deer. If I don't i go back to the quasi-camp set up in my dad's garage and drink homemade wine andtell lies with everyone else.[8D]
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:34 AM
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So you want to outlaw calls and scents? They stopped letting you bait this year because of the CWD outbreak. Get over it. Calls and scents don't transmit diseases.

I hunt in South Dakota, and baiting is illegal, and I don't think it would work anyway. In your mind, however, I am baiting by hunting amongst tens of thousands of acres of corn fields..
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:39 AM
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using calls takes some kind of skill. anyone can throw corn on the ground and sit on top of it.
What skill does it take for scents and lures?

Lanse you make a very good point. We as hunters can not guarantee any practice we use will work. I have seen many post form those who will point out that baiting doesn't guarantee deer will come in while you're sitting there. There seems to be the preception that all one has to do is open a bag of corn, pour it out, and wait 1 or 2 hours before the deer overrun you. I don't think that's how it works.
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:42 AM
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So you want to outlaw calls and scents? They stopped letting you bait this year because of the CWD outbreak. Get over it. Calls and scents don't transmit diseases.

I hunt in South Dakota, and baiting is illegal, and I don't think it would work anyway. In your mind, however, I am baiting by hunting amongst tens of thousands of acres of corn fields..
No I don't want to outlaw calls and scents I just want them to be viewed as what they are. A way to try an gain advantage over the deer the same as bait.

If baiting contributes to CWD why isn't illegal to feed those deer the rest of the year? Deer don't transmit disease only during deer season do they?
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:43 AM
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using calls takes some kind of skill. anyone can throw corn on the ground and sit on top of it.

Believe me, rustling my rattle bag, blowing into my doe bleetand pouring a little tinks on a cottonball and hanging it on a branch didn't take a masters degree.

However carrying out 50 lbs of corn into public land up and down hills for 900-1500 yards would require more skill than i have
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:44 AM
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using calls takes some kind of skill. anyone can throw corn on the ground and sit on top of it.
What skill does it take for scents and lures?

Lanse you make a very good point. We as hunters can not guarantee any practice we use will work. I have seen many post form those who will point out that baiting doesn't guarantee deer will come in while you're sitting there. There seems to be the preception that all one has to do is open a bag of corn, pour it out, and wait 1 or 2 hours before the deer overrun you. I don't think that's how it works.
i said CALLS not scents. i have tried scents in the past and found they did not work for me, so i no longer use them. i have hunted over a feeder 1 time in a state that allows baiting. i seen nothing all morning untill around 9 a.m. when the feeder went off. it was like ringing a dinner bell, deer came from every where when they heard the feeder go off and the corn hit the ground. that morning i decided baiting was not for me.
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:55 AM
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using calls takes some kind of skill. anyone can throw corn on the ground and sit on top of it.
What skill does it take for scents and lures?

Lanse you make a very good point. We as hunters can not guarantee any practice we use will work. I have seen many post form those who will point out that baiting doesn't guarantee deer will come in while you're sitting there. There seems to be the preception that all one has to do is open a bag of corn, pour it out, and wait 1 or 2 hours before the deer overrun you. I don't think that's how it works.
i said CALLS not scents. i have tried scents in the past and found they did not work for me, so i no longer use them. i have hunted over a feeder 1 time in a state that allows baiting. i seen nothing all morning untill around 9 a.m. when the feeder went off. it was like ringing a dinner bell, deer came from every where when they heard the feeder go off and the corn hit the ground. that morning i decided baiting was not for me.
Do you then view those who use scents the same as those who bait? That is,someone using a practice that takes no skill.
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Old 11-20-2008, 11:03 AM
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Savage,

Yep, i don't think that baiting is any sort of guarantee, unless you are dealing with the timed feeder operations that some folks have already talked about. I have had several relatives hunt that way in Texas and they said it wasnta mtter of hoping a deer would show up but ratherdeciding which of theseveral big bucks there thatthey wanted to shoot.

In terms of baitpiles, Iwould think that if you are in a state where everyone isdoing itthen that lowers the odds of deer consistently coming to yours. However, once that deer does get lured to your baitpile, it is pretty much all over. That's somewhat different than hoping that the buck on the other side of the big filed is gonna eventually drift within range of you.
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Old 11-20-2008, 11:13 AM
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I would tend to agree with you on timed feeders. I'm refering to baitpiles and non-timed feeders. Your point about drawing in a deer across a field is well made. My point is it's still a food source you're hunting over perhaps just not as effective. Scents,lures, drags, etc. are all used to bring deer in range just as a bait pile would be used. All those companies making scents tout how the deer will come screaming in to you. I would just like for people to see they're used for the same purpose as bait piles.
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Old 11-20-2008, 11:23 AM
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Yep, I think that degree of effectiveness is the key when you consider the use of various things. But like i said, I don't deal wih scents, calls, etc. either. But to each his own.
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