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Downsouth13 08-17-2008 11:16 PM

EVERYONE PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!!
 
This has nothing to do with deer hunting. This past Thursday someone broke into my girlfriends house and cleaned her out. This happened in broad daylight. Thank God she was not home. I am posting this to both put everyone on alert and to ask for advice. Times are getting tougher and people are doing unheard of crimes and women most of the time the most vulnerable. PLEASE teach your wives, girlfriends, mothers, etc. how to shoot a handgun and protect themselves. My girlfriend is not a stranger to shooting a pistol but now she will not go into her own house without me present or until she purchases her own gun. I am pretty knowledgable about handguns but need advice on a high quality pistol for her to carry. She wants nothing smaller than a .40 cal and price is not an object when it comes to personal safety and reliability..........All comments welcome and hopefully this post will help others!!!!

timbercruiser 08-18-2008 07:07 AM

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Glock is probably the most popular semi-auto pistol now. I would go to a large gun shop at a slow business time of day, so the salesman would have more time for her.Justfind one that fits her hand, light weight, reasonable cartridge price for practice rounds, etc. It would be good if you could find a professional that could give her a few lessons and arrange for her concealed weapons permit.

2FNSLO 08-18-2008 07:23 AM

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Sorry to hear about what happened to your girlfriend. Glad she is physically alright. I hope she can get past the mental part soon. I couldn't agree more with timbercruiser. Get her some place she can handle and shoot several handguns.
A glock is what I carry and is on my night stand. If she is set on .40 or larger you might want to have her look at the G36. IMHO it is an easier recoil to control than the .40.
Good luck!

BTW, I hope they catch the sorry POS that did this. I hate a thief!

thndrchiken 08-18-2008 08:23 AM

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Perhaps a snub nose S&W in 44 special.

jrbsr 08-18-2008 08:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: Downsouth13

This has nothing to do with deer hunting. This past Thursday someone broke into my girlfriends house and cleaned her out. This happened in broad daylight. Thank God she was not home. I am posting this to both put everyone on alert and to ask for advice. Times are getting tougher and people are doing unheard of crimes and women most of the time the most vulnerable. PLEASE teach your wives, girlfriends, mothers, etc. how to shoot a handgun and protect themselves. My girlfriend is not a stranger to shooting a pistol but now she will not go into her own house without me present or until she purchases her own gun. I am pretty knowledgable about handguns but need advice on a high quality pistol for her to carry. She wants nothing smaller than a .40 cal and price is not an object when it comes to personal safety and reliability..........All comments welcome and hopefully this post will help others!!!!
The new Ruger 327 magnum looks real good for a lady.

It has a 32 caliber bullet.

Halfe the recoil of the 357 magnum, but the with same knock down power.

Its also good for a concealed carry gun.

JMHO




BDOProStaff 08-18-2008 08:26 AM

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my girlfriend carries a Glock model 23 40.cal which is the midsize for the glock, but the Glock model 27 I do think is the sub-compact which is really awesome for women.

Siman08/OH 08-18-2008 09:04 AM

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I like to invest in big dogs ;)

Jeff Ovington 08-18-2008 09:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: Siman08/OH

I like to invest in big dogs ;)
Me too....:)
Dobermans,German Sheppards if ya want get a Pitbull.
Dogs are fast and wirery when it comes to household invasions.And properly trained ones don't give up.
If the guy gets outta the house have the dog chase him down.
One for every member of the house.;)
And if ya want something else for piece of mind, get a stun gun.
Its very probablethat that bullet may stray through the wall andand into one of your own familly members.



uncle matt 08-18-2008 12:17 PM

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Well #1 having a handgun is not going to tell you if someone is awaiting you inside your home, or has been in your home. That is what a good alarm system does.

Even if I was armed I would not walk into my home if my alarm had went off. I'd call the cops and let them earn their pay and clear the house.

But other than that, I think Glocks tend to be a bit thick in the grip for most women. I like the quality and simplicity of a good revolver. Especially those holding 7 or 8 rounds of .38 which is very controllable.

flips2 08-18-2008 01:44 PM

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If she wants a pistol to carry on her I would recommend the Glock Models 23 or 27. Both are .40 caliber and are smaller then the Model 22. I am a law enforcement officer and the 22 is my duty weapon and I have shot both of the other models too. I personally like the Glock because they are a combat handgun and are very simple to operate and clean. I dont think the grip is to thick, I have small hands and they fit around grip find. The recoil can be a bit especially with the smaller guns, I personally didn't switch to the smaller weapons as my duty weapon because of the recoil our duty ammo in them. But then again our duty ammo is not the same stuff you can buy over the counter. You say she is not a stranger to shooting a pistol then she should be able to overcome the recoil issue.

If she wants a gun in the house and not to carry, I would recommend a .410 shotgun. It will take care of business in a house environment and not do much damage as far as going through every wall of the house and possibly endangering others. Just my opinion though.

I wish you the best, I also have had my house broken into during the day and I told the sheriff who responded that luckily I didn't come home during it as somebody would have been leaving in a body bag.

Snook384 08-18-2008 04:07 PM

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For in the home use get her a SINGLE shot 12 gauge. It takes a lot of practice to use a pistol in an effective manner when you are under duress. In the 12 gauge use #4 BIRDSHOT. At the typical range you hit an intruder (4 to 6 feet) it leaves horrific wounds and is surley going to require you to repaint whatever section of the house was behind the intruder. I think you should also have her speak to someone what it is like to shoot someone. The internet is the place for a lot of bullcrap bravado but take it from me. When you pull that trigger your life truley just changed, no matter what the outcome. Shooting someone is a life altering occurance.

Mountaineer93 08-18-2008 07:47 PM

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I agree with Snook384. If you have a firearm for home defense / personal protection you must be ready to use it. Pulling it out and showing it off won't do much good.

It does sound like she is ready to buy.

I would take her to the gun shop and let her pick out which ones fit her hand the best. Similar styled guns will fit differently.

I usually recommend a S&W 642 with enclosed hammer for a carry gun because it can be carried in her purse and fired in the purse with out jamming. Federal Hydroshok in .38+p will get the job done.

As for a Semi-auto pistol I like the Springfield XD. It comes in a compact (4" barrel) and the sub-compact (3" barrel). It is an excellent handgun and is very reasonable as far as price goes. Another one I like if she wants a little small is a Kahr. Excellent handgun and a little more expensive than the XD.

Glocks are also a good handgun and if she is interested in one I would recommend that she handle one before buying. I know that for me the newer Glock do not fit my hands properly but the older models do fit. My problem is I have very large hands and some models just don't fit and Glock is one of them.

Just my $.02

Good Luck!


uncle matt 08-18-2008 09:11 PM

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Gun for just in the home?

I'd skip that single shot. What if there is 2 or 3 jabronies?

Woman? 20 gauge pump.

Man? Should probobly think 12 gauge pump.

Bird shot & some big old buckshot.

EVERYONE knows the sound of pump action being worked - AND FEARS IT.

Another thing that is so important is that in today's lawyer-happy society, you best know the laws about shooting someone in your home BEFORE pulling the trigger.

bigtim6656 08-19-2008 07:45 AM

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a glock berreta or even a good ruger why not a 9mm

Jasonlester 08-19-2008 02:42 PM

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Like others have siad..for home you can't beat a pump shotgun. If you even think there is someone in the house racking the slide does one of two things. 1. gets the to speak up and let you know who/where they are. Or 2. Gets them on the run out of the house. And if they go for option 3. you don't have to be very acurate to put them down with buck shot or a heavy bird shot.

For concealed carry I have a Taurus PT140. Its a 10+1 with .40 s&w. Great concealable gun. A revolver is also a nice choice for safety. My dad owes one of the Taurus Titanium 357 mags. 7 rounds (or six with and open under the hammer) very light almost unnoticable. Very nice. But recoil is hard.

Whatever it is have her shoot and get comfortable so shooting is second nature and so she handles it safely too.

Good luck.

forddeerslayer 08-19-2008 05:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: Jasonlester

Like others have siad..for home you can't beat a pump shotgun. If you even think there is someone in the house racking the slide does one of two things. 1. gets the to speak up and let you know who/where they are. Or 2. Gets them on the run out of the house. And if they go for option 3. you don't have to be very acurate to put them down with buck shot or a heavy bird shot.

For concealed carry I have a Taurus PT140. Its a 10+1 with .40 s&w. Great concealable gun. A revolver is also a nice choice for safety. My dad owes one of the Taurus Titanium 357 mags. 7 rounds (or six with and open under the hammer) very light almost unnoticable. Very nice. But recoil is hard.

Whatever it is have her shoot and get comfortable so shooting is second nature and so she handles it safely too.

Good luck.
X2 thats why a pump shotgun is always close by in my house not that i live in fear as some people might say or think always be prepared. i pray the best for you girlfriend also man. thats gotta bea hardship for you both. best of luck to you both:)

Reefdonkey 08-20-2008 06:03 AM

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Just remember the larger the caliber and the lighter the gun, the more it will kick. A second well placed shot may be more important than knock down power. I don't know about the stun gun idea, that may lead to conflicting stories when the police get there.

kevin1 08-20-2008 06:15 AM

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I just bought a Taurus 85 Lite five shot revolver in .38 caliber, small enough to fit in a pocket, powerful enough to do the job. It can handle Plus P loads, but I have two shotshells and three Glasers in it just in case I actually have to use it in public. With two boxes of semi-jacketed hollowpoints the damage was just under $400. It would make an excellent purse pistol for any lady.

mossberghunter93 08-20-2008 01:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Ovington


ORIGINAL: Siman08/OH

I like to invest in big dogs ;)
Me too....:)
Dobermans,German Sheppards if ya want get a Pitbull.
Dogs are fast and wirery when it comes to household invasions.And properly trained ones don't give up.
If the guy gets outta the house have the dog chase him down.
One for every member of the house.;)
And if ya want something else for piece of mind, get a stun gun.
Its very probablethat that bullet may stray through the wall andand into one of your own familly members.


even better a mastiff

Downsouth13 08-20-2008 05:15 PM

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Thanks guys for all of your help. We decided on the Glock 27 which is the sub-compact .40. She has been trained on how to handle a firearm. This will not be a solution to the problem, but hopefully protection if an adverse situation ever arises.

God bless you all and good luck this season!!!

Splitear_Leland 08-20-2008 08:00 PM

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A good security system works just as well, if not better. They are dependable, easy to use, work even when you are not home, and best of all, nobody takes the chance of getting shot. Just an idea.

bigtim6656 08-20-2008 08:37 PM

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you bet i had one put in in june. saved a guys life.
At about 10 pm i hear the garage door go up then 30 seconds laterthe alarm goes off.
I grap the shotgun head out no one to be found.
If the guy hd not heard that go off hemay have got aslug in the a**

There worth the money

ORIGINAL: Splitear_Leland

A good security system works just as well, if not better. They are dependable, easy to use, work even when you are not home, and best of all, nobody takes the chance of getting shot. Just an idea.

SouthernStrut56 08-20-2008 08:51 PM

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Got the pump 870, sps-t leaned up beside the bed. One Federal 3 1/2" #4 shot in the chamber, followed up with some #8's. Now if the girlfriend would turn the damn fans down a little I might could hear an intruder creepin around! Guess I needto get mea couple ofguard dogs to meet em at the door.

khawk 08-20-2008 09:55 PM

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As far as a good gun,a .380 would be a nice gun for a lady. My wife shoots mine on occasion and she handles it quite well. The models are up to you but the caliber and recoil is all she needs.

ggwash21 08-21-2008 12:15 AM

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I have a Glock 22 and a Xd and with my wifes smaller hands she loves the XD. The slide on my glock catches her hand for some reason. My xd is also ported so that helps. jsut my .02

cromer01 08-21-2008 08:03 PM

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s&w .38 snub nose, with or with out the hammer. my mom and sister both have one, very good lil guns. get the air weight, it feels like your holden a water gun. i can stick it in either pocket and youll never know im packin.

kelleno 08-22-2008 08:50 PM

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no .38 special? its a great caliber

Hunter20084 08-23-2008 10:49 AM

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if u decide not to get a 40 a 38 is really small and u council it easier

jkm03003 08-24-2008 05:52 PM

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Look around your local ranges and bigger shops. We have a shop that for $10 you can shoot 3 diff pistols to see what you like. You want something that will fit but if you stick with the 40 and go with the sub compact it will likely recoil too much for her. I have a glock 23 which is the midsize and I love it(just put nite sights on it). Itweighs about 26oz unloaded. You might try the Kahr lineup. Kahr makes a very good compact 9 and 40.

Irecently purchased the new Ruger LCP, it is in 380,it weighs about half that of the glock (10 oz) and would fit nicely in a purse. As the officer said a good 410 would be good in the house, but she would likely carry a smaller pistol like the LCP more often than a heavier glock. Hope this helps.

ms6852 08-24-2008 08:51 PM

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I bought my wife the smith & wesson 642 38. It is hammerless can shoot through her purse or windbreaker if need be. Deadly at close range which applies to any room in your home.

ericmcgehee 08-24-2008 10:18 PM

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Man, you could have bought her the Taurus PT111 PRO, they come in pink. I antually have the PT111 (in black) and I love it. It is the gun I take with me while working. They are a small gun, easy to conceal, and the grips are long enough to get a good grip on them. I too am wanting to buy my wife a gun for home defence when I am away, and it will most likely be the Taurus 38 revolver with the crimson trace grips.

jkm03003 08-25-2008 04:04 PM

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I had a S+W J frame w Crimson Trace grip. While a great gun and easy to carry, if you get a light one (mine was 16oz and was .357) it will kick quite a bit. With .38 it wasnt too bad but could still potentially bother some. Mine didnt have a rear sight and I didnt like that feature either. My girlfriend is 95lbs and loves to shoot my other K frame .357. But it weighs about 30oz and absorbs much of the recoil, not exactly a carrying gun.

The crimson trace is definitely the way to go.


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