baiting response
03-13-2008, 11:39 AM
#31
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: South central MN
Posts: 116
RE: baiting response
ORIGINAL: bryant1
Come down to north florida and i will take you on a hunt. It is a experience you will never forget, I have been hooked on it for 4 years now.
ORIGINAL: mnbirddog
Around here if we see a dog chasing a deer we can shoot it, half the year at least. Public or private land. Warden or law enforcement can shoot them any time of year if they are seen chasing deer. Still fascinated by the difference in hunting cultures around the country.
Around here if we see a dog chasing a deer we can shoot it, half the year at least. Public or private land. Warden or law enforcement can shoot them any time of year if they are seen chasing deer. Still fascinated by the difference in hunting cultures around the country.
03-13-2008, 01:41 PM
#32
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: north florida
Posts: 1,277
RE: baiting response
Sounds fun! Not many people hunt hogs with dogs in my hunting club anymore. The timber company here wanted an eradication of them because they were destroying pine trees and spreading disease among them too. I have been promised a hog hunt with dogs from a friend in cross city during the summer so i cant wait for that. here piggy piggy piggy
Come on down i got plenty of room in my truck to introduce someone to deer dogging
Come on down i got plenty of room in my truck to introduce someone to deer dogging
03-13-2008, 02:47 PM
#33
Typical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location:
Posts: 819
RE: baiting response
CWD isn't bound by climates. All it needs is a warm blooded host(s) to proliferate. It is predominant in areas that allow baiting and where penned deer or ruminates for that matter are kept in close proximity to one another. . The reason you don't see it in the north is because deer densities are usually much lighter, so one doesn't have that overcrowded, close animal to animal contact like southern climes where overpopulation is prevalent.
03-13-2008, 03:12 PM
#34
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Warren County NJ USA
Posts: 3,899
RE: baiting response
Take the bait and toss it. Become a real hunter and learn to hunt, learn the woods, learn deer movements. I call bait hunters "Y2K Hunters", not your fault you don't know any better. Nothing like going out hunting and earning your deer the way it is meant to be.......I hunt New Jersey and 99% of the state allows baiting, and these "Y2K Hunters" kill alot of deer and then claim they are great hunters, I'm just happy the area I hunt, baiting is not allowed, and I still harvest a few bucks per year...Its called hunting
03-13-2008, 04:15 PM
#35
Typical Buck
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: hunterdon NJ
Posts: 539
RE: baiting response
ORIGINAL: BOWHUNTERCOP
Take the bait and toss it. Become a real hunter and learn to hunt, learn the woods, learn deer movements. I call bait hunters "Y2K Hunters", not your fault you don't know any better. Nothing like going out hunting and earning your deer the way it is meant to be.......I hunt New Jersey and 99% of the state allows baiting, and these "Y2K Hunters" kill alot of deer and then claim they are great hunters, I'm just happy the area I hunt, baiting is not allowed, and I still harvest a few bucks per year...Its called hunting
Take the bait and toss it. Become a real hunter and learn to hunt, learn the woods, learn deer movements. I call bait hunters "Y2K Hunters", not your fault you don't know any better. Nothing like going out hunting and earning your deer the way it is meant to be.......I hunt New Jersey and 99% of the state allows baiting, and these "Y2K Hunters" kill alot of deer and then claim they are great hunters, I'm just happy the area I hunt, baiting is not allowed, and I still harvest a few bucks per year...Its called hunting
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03-13-2008, 07:59 PM
#36
Typical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Montrose, MI
Posts: 713
RE: baiting response
Switchback XT, RipCord Rest, HHA OL-5500 Sight,
Carbon Express Maxima 250 Arrows, Muzzy 3 Blade 100gr. Broadheads,
T/C Omega, Leupold VX-II 3-9X40, 250gr. Sabots
Remington 11-87, Leupold VX-II 3-9X40, Lightfields Slugs
Mossberg 835 Turkey Shotgu
When you throw all this stuff away and make your own bow & arrow from sticks and rocks, and then track and stalk your prey, then you will be a REAL hunter. Dont bash someone for throwing out some corn and such to attract a deer to a particular location. I would be willing to bet that you have hunted a fields edge, or near oak trees, this is essentially useing bait because you know the deer will get hungery and come to one of these spots eventually.We try to give ourselves every advantagewe can to harvest an animal, doe pee, cover scents, etc. I would think twice before you start labeling people.
Carbon Express Maxima 250 Arrows, Muzzy 3 Blade 100gr. Broadheads,
T/C Omega, Leupold VX-II 3-9X40, 250gr. Sabots
Remington 11-87, Leupold VX-II 3-9X40, Lightfields Slugs
Mossberg 835 Turkey Shotgu
When you throw all this stuff away and make your own bow & arrow from sticks and rocks, and then track and stalk your prey, then you will be a REAL hunter. Dont bash someone for throwing out some corn and such to attract a deer to a particular location. I would be willing to bet that you have hunted a fields edge, or near oak trees, this is essentially useing bait because you know the deer will get hungery and come to one of these spots eventually.We try to give ourselves every advantagewe can to harvest an animal, doe pee, cover scents, etc. I would think twice before you start labeling people.
03-13-2008, 08:31 PM
#37
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: kentucky
Posts: 577
RE: baiting response
I kill deer every year some over bait and some not and they all taste the same.So everybody should hunt how they want as long as it's legal and about the spread of desease,it's legal to bait in KY and we have'nt had a single case of CWD even though 14 states and two canadian provinces have reported cases of it and I think I read that two states near us that dont allow baiting both have CWD reports,west virginia and illinois,but not here yet,or atleast not bythe end of the reporting last year.feed them corn and kill'em all,if thats what you want to do,just keep hunting and support your fellow hunters,no matter how they hunt as long as they dont break the laws,division among our fellow hunters is the first sign of weakness and there are groups that look for our weakness to destroy or rights as outdoorsmen and women.
03-14-2008, 06:17 AM
#38
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Horse Country, VA
Posts: 937
RE: baiting response
Dont get me wrong...I am all about hunting with what works. I have food plots, and my original post was the debate. We have had confirmed CWD cases here, and I was concerned about the ethical ramifications of my growing corn, alfalfa, clover, etc. I have hunted with dogs, usually later in the shotgun season...hell my best friend has 14 blueticks and walkers.
My disgust is that others around you just dont get the fact that dogs are hard to contain when hunting. Down here they say a day out hunting with your dogs, is another out hunting your dogs! I was on my hunting land a month after season ended tilling and burning brush, and at midnight there were 3 hounds running deer through my land. I caught one of the dogs and called the number on the collar, and the guy just said..."oh, they will come back when they are tired of running". Not everyone wants to hunt with the dogs...all of the time! Especially when Im bowhunting and setting up on a trail, I get real ticked off when hounds are chasing deer around off season.
If you raise or hunt with dogs...just respect the hunter on the land next to you. Keep them penned up while out of season, and invest with radio collars so you can locate them and get them back in the box!
My two cents! Im done!
My disgust is that others around you just dont get the fact that dogs are hard to contain when hunting. Down here they say a day out hunting with your dogs, is another out hunting your dogs! I was on my hunting land a month after season ended tilling and burning brush, and at midnight there were 3 hounds running deer through my land. I caught one of the dogs and called the number on the collar, and the guy just said..."oh, they will come back when they are tired of running". Not everyone wants to hunt with the dogs...all of the time! Especially when Im bowhunting and setting up on a trail, I get real ticked off when hounds are chasing deer around off season.
If you raise or hunt with dogs...just respect the hunter on the land next to you. Keep them penned up while out of season, and invest with radio collars so you can locate them and get them back in the box!
My two cents! Im done!
03-14-2008, 06:26 AM
#39
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: South central MN
Posts: 116
RE: baiting response
ORIGINAL: Hoyt_Viper
Dont get me wrong...I am all about hunting with what works. I have food plots, and my original post was the debate. We have had confirmed CWD cases here, and I was concerned about the ethical ramifications of my growing corn, alfalfa, clover, etc. I have hunted with dogs, usually later in the shotgun season...hell my best friend has 14 blueticks and walkers.
My disgust is that others around you just dont get the fact that dogs are hard to contain when hunting. Down here they say a day out hunting with your dogs, is another out hunting your dogs! I was on my hunting land a month after season ended tilling and burning brush, and at midnight there were 3 hounds running deer through my land. I caught one of the dogs and called the number on the collar, and the guy just said..."oh, they will come back when they are tired of running". Not everyone wants to hunt with the dogs...all of the time! Especially when Im bowhunting and setting up on a trail, I get real ticked off when hounds are chasing deer around off season.
If you raise or hunt with dogs...just respect the hunter on the land next to you. Keep them penned up while out of season, and invest with radio collars so you can locate them and get them back in the box!
My two cents! Im done!
Dont get me wrong...I am all about hunting with what works. I have food plots, and my original post was the debate. We have had confirmed CWD cases here, and I was concerned about the ethical ramifications of my growing corn, alfalfa, clover, etc. I have hunted with dogs, usually later in the shotgun season...hell my best friend has 14 blueticks and walkers.
My disgust is that others around you just dont get the fact that dogs are hard to contain when hunting. Down here they say a day out hunting with your dogs, is another out hunting your dogs! I was on my hunting land a month after season ended tilling and burning brush, and at midnight there were 3 hounds running deer through my land. I caught one of the dogs and called the number on the collar, and the guy just said..."oh, they will come back when they are tired of running". Not everyone wants to hunt with the dogs...all of the time! Especially when Im bowhunting and setting up on a trail, I get real ticked off when hounds are chasing deer around off season.
If you raise or hunt with dogs...just respect the hunter on the land next to you. Keep them penned up while out of season, and invest with radio collars so you can locate them and get them back in the box!
My two cents! Im done!
EDIT: sorry, I thought when you said you started the debate you were the one that started the thread. But still, what is it that you are trying to say. I really like this debate, so I really want to see some counterpoints to my statements.
03-14-2008, 06:56 AM
#40
Typical Buck
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: hunterdon NJ
Posts: 539
RE: baiting response
ORIGINAL: johnnybravoo77
When you throw all this stuff away and make your own bow & arrow from sticks and rocks, and then track and stalk your prey, then you will be a REAL hunter. Dont bash someone for throwing out some corn and such to attract a deer to a particular location. I would be willing to bet that you have hunted a fields edge, or near oak trees, this is essentially useing bait because you know the deer will get hungery and come to one of these spots eventually.We try to give ourselves every advantagewe can to harvest an animal, doe pee, cover scents, etc. I would think twice before you start labeling people.
When you throw all this stuff away and make your own bow & arrow from sticks and rocks, and then track and stalk your prey, then you will be a REAL hunter. Dont bash someone for throwing out some corn and such to attract a deer to a particular location. I would be willing to bet that you have hunted a fields edge, or near oak trees, this is essentially useing bait because you know the deer will get hungery and come to one of these spots eventually.We try to give ourselves every advantagewe can to harvest an animal, doe pee, cover scents, etc. I would think twice before you start labeling people.