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dep214 01-20-2002 08:56 PM

RE: The Crossbow Controversy
 
you can call what ever border you want. with a compound bow you draw before the deer gets on top of you unlessthey sneaked up on you.not all crossbows are at full draw before shooting. the crossbow only has limb savers and a scope that is not very accurate. now who has the advantage?you would have to take off all those bells and whistles to come down to a crossbow.where is it stated that a compoud bow user is more superior than a crossbow user?there are more wounded deer found from a compound bow rather than a crossbow. they do not have the advantage and extras like a compound. if you are truly wanting to be a actual bow hunter then get a RECURVE and shoot wooden arrows.

Buck Magnet 01-20-2002 10:13 PM

RE: The Crossbow Controversy
 
How long could you hold a bow set at lets say, 75 pounds with a 65% let off. NOT THAT LONG. The deer have to be close for you to draw, just as close as when you raise the crossbow to aim. A compound bow makes noise while drawing back, the arrow rubs on the rest, the string vibrates.... This is more reasons why the crossbow has a HUGE advantage over the crossbow. Now, you said that a scoped crossbow isn't very accurate, what is the point in letting it be used then? If it isn't as accurate as a compound bow, why let it in?


Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)

dep214 01-20-2002 10:31 PM

RE: The Crossbow Controversy
 
why should compounds be allowed when crossbows have been around longer.the crossbow makes more noise thsn a compound and has severe vibration when fired. ths scope is another tool to use just like your site pins. the crossbow is much heavier and harder to hold for a long period of time. you really sound like you are just not that familar with the crossbow.you speak of the 75 pound pull on the compound. mt crossbow has a 175 lb pull so whats your point. do you think it is easy for a disabled person to pull back 175lbs when he or she can barely walk to their stand.my eyesight is also bad and the scope allows me to get more of a target like the site pins do for you.

i have nothing against compounds or recurves. it is just the people that feel they are superior to those that have to use a crossbow.

Big Country 01-20-2002 10:43 PM

RE: The Crossbow Controversy
 
Hey dep, GET OVER IT, nobody said, implied, or feels that they are superior to someone who, for whatever reason, uses a crossbow! That never entered into this conversation, until now!

Buck Magnet 01-20-2002 10:44 PM

RE: The Crossbow Controversy
 
I have nothing against crossbow users. I do believe it is easier to use than a compound bow, but is still more of a challenge than a rifle. I have seen cranks that make it easy to pull back a crossbow. I agree that crossbows are heavier and you can't hold them in position for that long, but a compound at full draw is VERY hard to hold. If the deer stops behind a twig and you can't hold it, you must let down the bow, if this doesn't scare the deer, you can try drawing back, aiming and releasing, but that situation probablly won't present itself. A crossbow user can raise up, if the deer stops, he just slowly lowers the crossbow, then he can slowly raise it, aim, and shoot. This would be much easier to do with crossbow compared to the compound would it not?

Really, I don't think anything badly of people who use crossbows, if thats your perogative, go for it. I don't however feel that they should be allowed in regular archery season, if they are, I wont care. I do think that in Pennsylvania, the First week of archery season should be for crossbows. Then, extend archery season another week at the end of the season. Let the last week of the regular archery season open to crossbows.

Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)

dep214 01-20-2002 11:02 PM

RE: The Crossbow Controversy
 
i never asked to be disabled and i had my hunting severly limited until a crossbow was reccomended. it brought back more excitement than i had in years. i got to get close to the deer again. years ago i used a bear grizzly-56"-55 lb pull. now try to hold that back for a period of time. i hear from compound users that say we should not be allowed to hunt but at certain times. i have yet to hear from anyone with a good answer as to why. i wish the crossbows had all the gimmiks that a compound has so it would be easier. we still have to calculate the distance just like you do with a site pin. there is no difference. it is the people that feel there hunting ways is more important or superior. i have hunted many times with my crossbow but have never killed yet.i did kill when i used my recurve bow. the crossbow is much harder and bulkier to use. you stated something about movement being noticed. try moving a bulky crossbow without being seen.since the compound had many advantages over the crossbow why shouldn't it be moved to its own season away from bow season. the recurve is the only real bow.i bet you use carbon or aluminum arrows and not wood.probablt use mechanical broadheads also.

soarkrebel 01-21-2002 12:32 AM

RE: The Crossbow Controversy
 
i would rather hear a big BOOM when i shoot at deer steak on the hoof!!! i really dont see why argue the issue if it floats your boat to hunt with a compound bow float by all means . but if you like a crossbow someones going to yank at your plug. look i believe it is far more ethical to shoot a animal than stick one. if arrows were so good armys would still be using them. and if you look at your traditional archery history you see crossbows not compound bows. i have both compound and crossbow i like to hunt with both. the crossbow is easier alot more stealthy. yeah i just have release the safety ,aim and shoot.but i still have to consider range and compensate accordingly . but i dont feel bad at all. but i still would rather go boom.

Trum 01-21-2002 11:55 AM

RE: The Crossbow Controversy
 
Ok, Why a special season for crossbows?
I live here in Ohio where crossbows are legal. I own crossbow (I have yet to take a deer with it), compound, and recurve (I don’t hunt with).
The number of deer harvested with any kind of bow is still very small when compared to the numbers taken during gun (shotgun) season. The only effect that I see a separate season having, is limiting the chances for some hunters to get out into the woods.
Keeping them separate in the record books is one thing. I don’t think that anyone believes that hunting with a longbow and crossbow are equal. But I can’t support anything that would limit anyone opportunities to enjoy a safe ethical hunt.

BTBowhunter 01-21-2002 03:28 PM

RE: The Crossbow Controversy
 
First, crossbows should be OK for the truly disabled in Archery season but that's where it has to stop. The difference is that the crossbow is drawn before game is present. I used a crossbow in gun season this past season in Pa special regulations area where guns arent permitted. I hunt suburbia in a deer control program where a body count is expected of us. Once the gun season rolls around here, deer flock into this area to avoid the gunners in adjoining townships. They are extremely wary and spooky this time of year. I decided the crossbow might give an edge and bought one. I killed 3 deer with it under these conditions. Two of which would have walked if I'd had to draw a conventional bow. My point? The crossbow gives an edge over a compound, recurve etc because it is cocked when the game arrives. Give it its' own season, but it's not a bow. It's a short range gun!

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