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BucHuntr28 12-17-2007 08:10 PM

Scent Control
 
Anybody got a regular scent control routine that you use before you hit the deer woods? Soaps? Shampoos? Cover scents? Scentlok? Etc....

kbrow 12-17-2007 08:48 PM

RE: Scent Control
 
Do it all if you can - scent free shampoo and soap morning of, scent free clothes, Scentlok / charcoal suit, rubber boots, use scent eliminator spray before and during hunt, etc., etc., However, the best Scent eliminator is to keep your scent from blowing toward the deer. They will still bust you if they are right on top of you with the wind blowing in the wrong direction...at least some of the time.

walker12 12-17-2007 09:47 PM

RE: Scent Control
 
scent-a-way body wash/shampoo ($3), scent free detergent ($6), and i spray scent eliminator on myself and my boots right before i start down the trail. just my opinion, but i think scent lok is b.s. the indians did it without scent lok, so why can't we??

yakuza wiz 12-17-2007 09:51 PM

RE: Scent Control
 
I went through bow season without doing a single thing scent wise and i saw at least 20 deer within 30 yards and some walked right under my stand without busting me.
but as soon as gun season comes around i noticed they will bust me every time.
So I take a bath in the scent free soap wash my clothes in sportwash then use scent eliminator when I get in the field.
I wear leather and rubber boots and never noticed any bad effects from ether.
scent never seems to bother the deer where i am and I've been busted from moving more than them smelling me.

walker12 12-17-2007 09:57 PM

RE: Scent Control
 
yea man, its way too easy to get caught up in the whole scent cover deal. do the essentials, but don't be a freak about it.

CamoCop 12-18-2007 05:49 AM

RE: Scent Control
 

ORIGINAL: walker12

scent-a-way body wash/shampoo ($3), scent free detergent ($6), and i spray scent eliminator on myself and my boots right before i start down the trail. just my opinion, but i think scent lok is b.s. the indians did it without scent lok, so why can't we??
x2

timbercruiser 12-18-2007 06:26 AM

RE: Scent Control
 
I check the weather to see which way the wind is blowing.

kevin1 12-18-2007 08:31 AM

RE: Scent Control
 


ORIGINAL: CamoCop


ORIGINAL: walker12

scent-a-way body wash/shampoo ($3), scent free detergent ($6), and i spray scent eliminator on myself and my boots right before i start down the trail. just my opinion, but i think scent lok is b.s. the indians did it without scent lok, so why can't we??
x2
X3, I don't go hog wild with it because the best you can really achieve is to reduce your scent signature enough to fool them into thinking that you're further away than you really are and therefore less of a threat. There is absolutely no such thing as "scent free", and you'll never actually fool a whitetail's nose.

Cruise J.D. 12-18-2007 10:11 AM

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ORIGINAL: kevin1

X3, I don't go hog wild with it because the best you can really achieve is to reduce your scent signature enough to fool them into thinking that you're further away than you really are and therefore less of a threat. There is absolutely no such thing as "scent free", and you'll never actually fool a whitetail's nose.
What he said.

newguy23 12-18-2007 10:41 AM

RE: Scent Control
 
I disagree...

Be neurotic about it... Everything you do can help. Wash your clothes in scent free soap and dry them, put them in an airtight container. If you can afford it buy a zinc fabric underlayer to wear against your skin (anti-microbial) and a carbon activated outer layer. Make sure you use anti-scent wash on your towels you will use to dry off.

Shower EVERY time before you go out and hunt with an appropriate anti-scent soap. After dressing use a no scent spray and my favorite coon urine for you boots as a great cover scent. make sure you spray all your equipment down with no scent spray too (backpacks, etc.)

Hey, you never hear someone say "I did too good of a job being scent free", but you will hear a lot of people say that they spooked or got nailed by dear, especially bow-hunters. I know I have been in a stand and been snort/wheezed at or busted and I thought for sure there was no way they are going to nail me. Since I have become so worried about this and taken an active role in reducing scent, I have had significantly more success deer hunting.

By the way, next year I am going vegeterian a month before the season starts!:D

newguy23 12-18-2007 10:45 AM

RE: Scent Control
 
Oh yeah, and ALWAYS pay attention to wind.

I would like anyone to show me one professional deer hunting article that scent/wind doesn't matter... Good luck!

125py 12-18-2007 11:59 AM

RE: Scent Control
 
i was my clothes in scent-away detergent...put them in a scent free plastic bag with baking soda to neutralize any odor.....then i spray them with scent-away spray.....then i spray my gear down.I always hunt a stand only when the wind direction is right.

Oh yeah.....i dont go walking around wal-mart, gas stations, fast food places, or the bow shop with my hunting gear on EVER! It cracks me up when people do this....unless they plan on washing their clothes when they get home.

JayDeavor 12-18-2007 05:17 PM

RE: Scent Control
 

ORIGINAL: walker12

yea man, its way too easy to get caught up in the whole scent cover deal. do the essentials, but don't be a freak about it.
My hunting clothes are hanging in my attic all year round except 2 weeks before opening day.. 2 weeks before opening day I take them from the attic and hang everything outside in the dry to air out.. Once opening day comes, I place my hunting gear in the bed of my truck and drive to my hunting area.. Once there I take my Scent-A-Way (Fresh Earth Smell) and spray everything before I head into the woods..
I too spook more dear moving around than I do getting busted!

WKP Todd 12-18-2007 05:19 PM

RE: Scent Control
 
Timbercruiser hit the nail on the head. They will wind you if you're scent is blowing to their nose - no way around it...

TNHagies 12-18-2007 05:35 PM

RE: Scent Control
 
before you head out, pick up some grass, toss it up in the air and see which way the wind is blowing. Other than that, the rest is marketing bs.

whitetail_fanatic 12-19-2007 12:13 AM

RE: Scent Control
 
I just carry some talc powder, and adjust when needed.

kmunny19 12-19-2007 01:22 PM

RE: Scent Control
 

ORIGINAL: timbercruiser

I check the weather to see which way the wind is blowing.
exactly. scent control helps, but you can't aasume it will do everything you need. I've seen first hand the differences and improvements with scent control, but only when the wind was right.

Paul L Mohr 12-19-2007 02:33 PM

RE: Scent Control
 
I'm going to invent scent free gun oil and gun powder. I think I could make millions off from it.

I don't believe that deer equate human scent with danger, but they don't the smell of guns and gun powder. Just doesn't make sense to me at all.

And you would think they would equate the smell, sound and sight of vehicles with danger, but from the looks of the roads in my area it doesn't phase them one bit. They stand right in the middle of the road or run out in front of you.

I honestly believe movement and noise screw you more than scent does.

Paul

newguy23 12-19-2007 02:56 PM

RE: Scent Control
 
actually there is scent free oil for guns... I use it. Again, anything that can reduce my odor "footprint"

Are you trying to tell me a deer has never snort/wheezed at you?

srwshooter 12-19-2007 03:08 PM

RE: Scent Control
 
the easyest thing you can do is store your hunting clothes somewhere seperate from other clothes . i have a closet just for camo. before the season i will wash everything ,air dry and cut some fresh cedar hunks and put in with them. use what ever is in your hunting area ,lots of cedars where i hunt.

i use a spray called ODORLOCK during bow season i keep a big bottle in my truck and a small spray bottle in my pack,the key is use it.if its hot and i'm sweaty iuse it hourly. as the season goes on into gun i stop worrying about scent control as much. hunting on farms,step in some cow poop,the deer smell it all the time. i have use freshearth cover also.use what is natural to your area.

jorkep 12-19-2007 03:27 PM

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scentlok and all of that carbon clothing crap is just that crap. it's been debunked numerous times.

newguy23 12-19-2007 05:10 PM

RE: Scent Control
 

ORIGINAL: jorkep

scentlok and all of that carbon clothing crap is just that crap. it's been debunked numerous times.
This statement is not factual... Please reference the article/journal/etc.

newguy23 12-19-2007 05:11 PM

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Actually it is scientific!

http://www.scentlok.com/articles/articles_detail.aspx?n=16

Paul L Mohr 12-19-2007 05:31 PM

RE: Scent Control
 

ORIGINAL: newguy23
Are you trying to tell me a deer has never snort/wheezed at you?
Never while hunting, I have had does do it in the off season while I was walking in a field or the woods, but only after they stare you down for a few minutes first. I have had a few bust me while moving, or if I bump something, but they don't snort or wheeze, they just take off.

I shot my first deer with a bow wearing a camo T-shirt, black jeans and my work boots. And I went hunting right after working 10 hours in a hot factory. And it was 70 degrees out in the afternoon. I shot the deer at 18 yards away from 13 feet up. There were actually two deer under me, and I watched them graze around for a while before I shot one of them. They didn't have clue I was there until it was too late.

I some how manage to kill a deer every year without all the scent free products. The way some make it sound I should never see deer, let alone get a shot off at one, with a bow no less.

I bet if you went out and hung a pair of stinky underwear from a game camera you would still see deer on it. As a matter of fact you may see one right at the camera sniffing them.

My opinion anyway. If you want to buy the scent free stuff go ahead, it certainly can't hurt anything. Unless it actually gives off some chemical odor we can't smell, but deer can and that freaks them out more than BO will.;)

Paul

newguy23 12-19-2007 05:42 PM

RE: Scent Control
 
I won't argue that you can shoot a deer without being concerned with scent... Hell I have had deer come out to an open field and stare at me less then 20 yards from me... Hell I had one this year watch me put my deer hunting stand up!!!

However I hunt to have the opportunity to take large/mature deer, especially bucks... These are deer that in theory have gained knowledge through their lives... Now having said that I am sure there will be people year-in and year-out who get big deer without being concerned with scent/wind, but they are the exception to the rule.

srwshooter 12-20-2007 09:03 AM

RE: Scent Control
 
useing scent control,i have had deer within 10ft of me while setting in a chair in open woods. i have had them walk all the way around me and not spook. i don't think you need to spend any extra on scentlock clothing to do this.

cabelas and bass pro shops are involved in a law suit now over false claims from scentlock .

mikepsu54 12-20-2007 01:06 PM

RE: Scent Control
 
i can not beleive what i am hearing. I never get busted by mature does and bucks since i got into carbons suits. I am religous about using scent free soap, shampoo, rubber boots ,etc. I had a huge 10 point come to me when the wind was blowing right to him. Never new i was their. This deer was a least 3 1/2 years old. I dont know where you guys hunt but here in PA are deer are smart since their is so much pressure. IF YOU SEEn thirty deer with out take the precautions image how many you would have seen with it. Deer could smell you and decide im not going that way. AS for me i will always use scent blocker. THe most rememberable time is when i walk about a mile and it was unseasonable warm. I was drenched in sweat. I thought i would never see a deer. Well it work and i had several older deer come right under me and never knew i was their. I know a few guys which i like to call stinky hunters, and the only time they see bucks is during the rut-when their stupid.PERIOD

mikepsu54 12-20-2007 01:13 PM

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PUTTING A STINKING SOCK AND DEER WOULD STILL COME TO INVESTIGATE. I dont know about that, but i think you guys arent very educated about how smart and how well a deer can smell. THink about it. DID any of you ever smell fresh doe in estrous. I have smelled doe estrous straight out of the doe and it doesnt smell at all. NOW that i said that...Think about rut hunting.......A Hot doe can come by..... and several minutes later a buck can come by following the scent trail....Several minutes later another one.....ETC. I have seen it several times. Now think about your stink clothes....they smell them and leave that area because they know its danger...

JayDeavor 12-20-2007 03:10 PM

RE: Scent Control
 

ORIGINAL: mikepsu54

i can not beleive what i am hearing. I never get busted by mature does and bucks since i got into carbons suits. I am religous about using scent free soap, shampoo, rubber boots ,etc. I had a huge 10 point come to me when the wind was blowing right to him. Never new i was their. This deer was a least 3 1/2 years old. I dont know where you guys hunt but here in PA are deer are smart since their is so much pressure. IF YOU SEEn thirty deer with out take the precautions image how many you would have seen with it. Deer could smell you and decide im not going that way. AS for me i will always use scent blocker. THe most rememberable time is when i walk about a mile and it was unseasonable warm. I was drenched in sweat. I thought i would never see a deer. Well it work and i had several older deer come right under me and never knew i was their. I know a few guys which i like to call stinky hunters, and the only time they see bucks is during the rut-when their stupid.PERIOD
I have been sitting back and just reading this post, but I am gonna have to say something else to this post!..
I also live in Pa. Central Pa for that matter and I have hunted every year for the last 21 years and I have "Never" had a deer run off from me by my scent ONLY movement!

walker12 12-20-2007 09:46 PM

RE: Scent Control
 
Most deer aren't very smart in my opinion. Just very paranoid and skiddish. One of my friends when I was little had one of those skiddish cats in his house that would run if you looked at it the wrong way. I like to compare deer hunting to that cat (his name was Smokey). Not too smart, just a paranoid freak.

mikepsu54 12-20-2007 11:28 PM

RE: Scent Control
 
their probably skidish because they can smell you!!!!!! ANd JAyDeavor you must hunt the big woods, and probably just gun hunt.

srwshooter 12-21-2007 06:50 AM

RE: Scent Control
 
mikepsu54,sounds to me like have spent a bunch of money on clothing ,i'm telling you ,you don't need to.
that is what the clothing manufacters want us all to believe. its just a money thing.

i hear people say all the time ,the deer have gotten smarter then they used to be,not true hunters have gotten dumber. they fall for every new gimmick that comes along.

wash your clothes in baking soda,by hand not in washing machine and air dry them,even let it rain on them. they will work just as well.

dayna0306 12-21-2007 12:02 PM

RE: Scent Control
 
My friends drug dog can smell a joint in your full gas tank .Some people think they can cover thier scent with cothing or cover scent what a joke!

dayna0306 12-21-2007 05:16 PM

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what no comments?Or hows this one a beagle can tell the age of 2 rabbit tracks 2 hours old andand know what direction the rabbit went by the scent being 1 second older. How aboutthis one a blood hound can tell what exit a kidnappedperson got off the L.A. free wayat rush hour.If a deer can smell half that well do you think you could hide from them.I'm not saying I do not use scent control but that is what it is control.


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Rory/MO 12-21-2007 05:32 PM

RE: Scent Control
 
we wash our clothes in scent free detergent, use the spray, use the wind in our favor, get high up in a tree, and take a shower with the HS stuff every hunt

northernedge 12-21-2007 05:34 PM

RE: Scent Control
 
I just rub some dirt and pine needles on my cloths as i walk into the woods. Works for me.

WKP Todd 12-21-2007 05:38 PM

RE: Scent Control
 
A deer can smell nearly as well as a dog. I have also found this to be the case through my 18 years of bowhunting experience. I've personally witnessed deer follow my scent trails some 24 hours after walking through an area. The whole concept of scent control has been invented by a bunch of companies that have figured out that deer hunters are always looking to buy success.

walker12 12-21-2007 08:35 PM

RE: Scent Control
 

ORIGINAL: mikepsu54

their probably skidish because they can smell you!!!!!! ANd JAyDeavor you must hunt the big woods, and probably just gun hunt.

I'm sorry, man but you're an absolute idiot. Not only are you ignorant, but you're obnoxious. I take scent free showers and use scent free wash, but until my smell spooks a dear, I won't go gung-ho on scent control. I took a dump on the side of a logging road yesterday, and my buddy jumped two deer in the same spot this evening. You keep spending big money and biting any marketing bait that's casted your way. For generation after generation, our ancestors hunted deer (and many other animals) without that stuff. I can't believe a thing you say about your "experiences" because half of it is illegible. Start talking like somewhat of an adult or a respectful fellow-outdoorsman and then maybe I will believe your BS.


RockinChair 12-21-2007 08:50 PM

RE: Scent Control
 
We have got to agree to disagree on this subject and just respect everyone's opinions/experiences. YES, Scent-Lok does work (it has been proven in scientific labs, so please do not be ignorant and argue with science), YES scent-a-way products do work, YES i have seen more deer after devoting myself religiously to scent-elimination. However, I do feel these other hunters are at a disadvantage who do not practice scent-elmination. Still, that is not going to prevent you from taking or seeing big bucks. A deer's sense of smell is 1000x as strong as a humans, so just because you have not been 'busted' in the stand does not mean your scent has not effected the deer. They can wind you from ways a way, and just avoid you all together. On the contrary, deer are naturally curious and if they pick up a scent they do not recognize they will actually come to investigate. So please do notcriticize others on this matter. If a hunter wears Scent-Lok, and uses other scent-killing related products,respect his devotion to becoming as "invisible" as he can be. If a hunter feels that he does not need to practice scent elimination, respect that as well.

walker12 12-21-2007 08:55 PM

RE: Scent Control
 
Well hell, man. I'm not going to respect anyone's opinion or believe their little stories when they act like an a$$. It's people like that that myself, and everyone else I know, would hate to hunt with. That's the end of it.


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