buck shot illegal???
#21
RE: buck shot illegal???
Its illegal to have in your possession while afield during Deer Hunting Season in NY.
Not saying it won't work, I think 00 buckshot is about .32" if I remember right. Certaintly not a small chunk of lead.
Another thiing to consider is size of your deer that you are hunting. I know all deer in the south aren't small, but I think you'll agree that in many places they are fairly small compared to Deer generally in the North.
FH
Not saying it won't work, I think 00 buckshot is about .32" if I remember right. Certaintly not a small chunk of lead.
Another thiing to consider is size of your deer that you are hunting. I know all deer in the south aren't small, but I think you'll agree that in many places they are fairly small compared to Deer generally in the North.
FH
#22
RE: buck shot illegal???
ORIGINAL: mossbergman11
alright wingchaser labs and stabnslab if you want to post comments about this topic fine if not please dont. i dont want to argue with you guys anymore. lets agree to disagree. i think a deer stuck in a swing is not funny you think it is funny. alright no hard feelings. i ws in the wrong to say im gonna flag that video i didnt mean that
alright wingchaser labs and stabnslab if you want to post comments about this topic fine if not please dont. i dont want to argue with you guys anymore. lets agree to disagree. i think a deer stuck in a swing is not funny you think it is funny. alright no hard feelings. i ws in the wrong to say im gonna flag that video i didnt mean that
#23
RE: buck shot illegal???
ORIGINAL: mossbergman11
is buckshot more expensive than slugs?
can you use buckshot for hogs?
is buckshot more expensive than slugs?
can you use buckshot for hogs?
#25
RE: buck shot illegal???
It spreads just like any shot. Thats why it isnt real effective past 40 yards. Shot spreads and less are gonna hit those vital areas plus the shot will lose velocity the farther it goes cuz they are light compaired to slugs. All the energy is dispersed through the 9 pellets (I think thats whats in00buck) instead of all of it like in a slug.I've only shot it a couple times so maybe other guys could explainwhat kind of patterning and penetration they get with their buck shot at 40 yards. WCL
#26
RE: buck shot illegal???
My two cents if anyone is interested. Before I get started on my rant I'll give you a little background info. My best friend was shot by someone shooting at a running deer, he almost died and he's permanently injured from the ordeal.
For those of you who use buckshot on running deer because you think that you have a better chance of hitting him you're wrong. For buckshot to be effective the deer has to be hit with most if not all of the pellets. If you can hit him with the entire load of buckshot you would have hit him with a slug.
For everyone who thinks that buckshot can "penetrate a thicket" you should have your hunting license revoked for life. I you don't have a clear shot, DON'T SHOOT!!!!!!! I don't care if the deer has 47 points and double drop tines. Take my word for it, seeingmy best friendget shot is the worst thing that I've ever had to go through. The first rule that is taught at the hunter safety course is to know your target and beyond.
Even if used properly buckshot leaves a poor blood trail. Slugs on the other hand make a large hole and leave a great bloodtrail. I've never lost a deer that was hit with a slug.
If you hunt in anarea that only allows shotguns use slugs. If you can't afford a fancy slug gun there are other options. I have an old Marlin goose gun that I cut the barrel down to 20". I also glass bedded the receiver and mounted a scope. Out to 100 yards I'll put this gun up against any rifled barrel, sabot shooting "slug gun". With 1 ounce Winchester rifled slugs I can hold a three inch group at 100 yards. If all you have is your bird gun go buy a bunch of different types and brand of rifled slugs and find out which one shoots the best. Like I said before, if you can hit him with buckshot you can hit him with a slug.
For those of you who use buckshot properly I'm not chastising you for using it, I just believe that a lot of hunters have the wrong idea about buckshots capabilities. When I hear people talking about using it to shoot through brush or taking long shots because they have feel that they only need one pellet to kill a deer I cringe. Please hunt safely and remember that we're all out in the woods enjoying a sport that we love, our families shouldn't have to worry about us while were doing it.
For those of you who use buckshot on running deer because you think that you have a better chance of hitting him you're wrong. For buckshot to be effective the deer has to be hit with most if not all of the pellets. If you can hit him with the entire load of buckshot you would have hit him with a slug.
For everyone who thinks that buckshot can "penetrate a thicket" you should have your hunting license revoked for life. I you don't have a clear shot, DON'T SHOOT!!!!!!! I don't care if the deer has 47 points and double drop tines. Take my word for it, seeingmy best friendget shot is the worst thing that I've ever had to go through. The first rule that is taught at the hunter safety course is to know your target and beyond.
Even if used properly buckshot leaves a poor blood trail. Slugs on the other hand make a large hole and leave a great bloodtrail. I've never lost a deer that was hit with a slug.
If you hunt in anarea that only allows shotguns use slugs. If you can't afford a fancy slug gun there are other options. I have an old Marlin goose gun that I cut the barrel down to 20". I also glass bedded the receiver and mounted a scope. Out to 100 yards I'll put this gun up against any rifled barrel, sabot shooting "slug gun". With 1 ounce Winchester rifled slugs I can hold a three inch group at 100 yards. If all you have is your bird gun go buy a bunch of different types and brand of rifled slugs and find out which one shoots the best. Like I said before, if you can hit him with buckshot you can hit him with a slug.
For those of you who use buckshot properly I'm not chastising you for using it, I just believe that a lot of hunters have the wrong idea about buckshots capabilities. When I hear people talking about using it to shoot through brush or taking long shots because they have feel that they only need one pellet to kill a deer I cringe. Please hunt safely and remember that we're all out in the woods enjoying a sport that we love, our families shouldn't have to worry about us while were doing it.
#27
RE: buck shot illegal???
I can't see much of a comparison between shooting ducks and shooting deer. For one, rifles are illegal for waterfowl. Second, you are throwing lots of little pellets at smaller sized game, A few pellets hit, bird goes down. As for buckshot, it is illegal in many areas because it is not one of the better tools for the job. OO buck has 9 pellets at .30 dia. #3 buck has twice the pellets at .24 dia.
Except at very close range you might not hit with more than a couple of the larger pellets. So, you are shooting basicly by "pointing" rather than a true aim. Add in that buckshot is not going to expand, so you don't get much hydostatic shock value, you can hit a deer with 5 or 6 pellets, but if they hit muscle, guts, legs or even lungs much of the bleeding will be internal! The deer will certainly die, but will he die in your county or not?!?
I know I've said a lot, just to say this, "there arefar too many better options than buckshot to justify its use!"
Except at very close range you might not hit with more than a couple of the larger pellets. So, you are shooting basicly by "pointing" rather than a true aim. Add in that buckshot is not going to expand, so you don't get much hydostatic shock value, you can hit a deer with 5 or 6 pellets, but if they hit muscle, guts, legs or even lungs much of the bleeding will be internal! The deer will certainly die, but will he die in your county or not?!?
I know I've said a lot, just to say this, "there arefar too many better options than buckshot to justify its use!"
#28
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 59
RE: buck shot illegal???
ORIGINAL: wingchaser_labs
We shoot the bernake (missspelled I'm sure) slugs and we get them for 2 bucks a box of 5 or you can get the remington ones for like 4 bucks a box. The sabot slugs are really exspensive at up to 17 and 20 bucks a box of 5. We use bird barrels so we shoot the cheap stuff. I don't know what buck shot costs though. WCL
ORIGINAL: mossbergman11
is buckshot more expensive than slugs?
can you use buckshot for hogs?
is buckshot more expensive than slugs?
can you use buckshot for hogs?
You made a 80 yard heart shot on a running deer with a unrifled barrel and slugs? I think the term we use around here for that is "luck".
I've patterened some buckshot loads through a few of my 12's and have found that 00 never seems to pattern well with a really tight choke. My 500 and 1100 both shoot it better with improved.
I can't say that I've ever taken a shot at a deer with buckshot...but I don't think I'd have any problems using it as a deep brush load....somewhere 50 yards would be a long shot.
#29
RE: buck shot illegal???
ORIGINAL: leben_sie_gut
You made a 80 yard heart shot on a running deer with a unrifled barrel and slugs? I think the term we use around here for that is "luck".
You made a 80 yard heart shot on a running deer with a unrifled barrel and slugs? I think the term we use around here for that is "luck".
#30
RE: buck shot illegal???
ORIGINAL: leben_sie_gut
I can't say that I've ever taken a shot at a deer with buckshot...but I don't think I'd have any problems using it as a deep brush load....somewhere 50 yards would be a long shot.
I can't say that I've ever taken a shot at a deer with buckshot...but I don't think I'd have any problems using it as a deep brush load....somewhere 50 yards would be a long shot.