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wahoohunter 12-01-2007 11:39 AM

whose deer is it?
 
I was just wondering what yalls opinion is on this matter...

If someone shoots a deer and only wounds him, and while you are tracking him or before you start tracking him another hunter shoots the deer and kills it...whose deer is it?
I've always thought it was the person who actually harvested the deer that should get the meat and check it in...but i was just wondering what yalls takke is on it...

skeeter 7MM 12-01-2007 11:52 AM

RE: whose deer is it?
 
For us it has always beenfirst blood gets the deer. As a general rule most believe first lethal shot. Though it appears in the real world first on scene...tags it.

Steve F.in MD 12-01-2007 04:55 PM

RE: whose deer is it?
 
Do a search on your question and you can read pages and pages of opinions.

DoctorDeath 12-01-2007 04:58 PM

RE: whose deer is it?
 
FIRST BLOOD!

dd

furgitter 12-01-2007 05:51 PM

RE: whose deer is it?
 
As a group its up to the grour to be sure everyone understands. My bunch, its first blood. If another hunter on public land smokes it, you may have problems. Put what state you are from in your profile would ya?

bigcountry 12-01-2007 07:50 PM

RE: whose deer is it?
 
Its really common sense. If you hit a deer with a bad shot and it makes it 100 yards or more and someone puts a bullet in the lungs, its thier deer. All hunters should know a lethal shot. Liver shots are a grey area. So are neck shots. Everybody has thier idea, but I know deep down if I took the deer. And I usually will fight over it if I believe its mine.

Arrowmaster 12-01-2007 08:02 PM

RE: whose deer is it?
 
Whoever puts the first lethal shot on the deer. None of this first blood crap. Why would you want to tag a deer that had a non lethal shot or flesh wound. I myself would be ashamed to tag a deer I knew wouldnt have died from my non lethal shot... Just my opinion...

mauser06 12-01-2007 09:19 PM

RE: whose deer is it?
 
PA, final shot is the killer....

i dont agree with EITHER method...

if i blow the heart out of a deer and it makes its 50yd death dash(ive had them make it pretty close to 50yds with no heart to speak of...running into trees and stumbling all the way, but made it that far before dropping) and someone shoots it within the 50yd run or whatever and "kills it" im going to be pretty upset....

and i dont like first blood because if someone blows a leg off or shoots it in the tail or something, too danged bad! head to the shootin range...you certainly aint heading to the taxidermist!!!



monster10rackstack 12-01-2007 09:32 PM

RE: whose deer is it?
 
first killing shot......if it stays on the property where either are allowed to have the deer......if it goes to another property and the first guys doesnot/cant get permission then the second hunter can claim the deer or return it to the first hunter.....thats how it is in Indiana

DoctorDeath 12-02-2007 07:05 AM

RE: whose deer is it?
 

ORIGINAL: bigcountry

Its really common sense. If you hit a deer with a bad shot and it makes it 100 yards or more and someone puts a bullet in the lungs, its thier deer. All hunters should know a lethal shot. Liver shots are a grey area. So are neck shots. Everybody has thier idea, but I know deep down if I took the deer. And I usually will fight over it if I believe its mine.
BC this is one you and I wont agree on my hunting blood brother ....how many "if'y" shots have been tracked not found...then left over night and found the next day ? I would have to think that MOST second shots would not evenhappen if it wernt for the first one that drew blood....and who is to say what a "leathel" shot is within in hour AFTER the shot....Ihave personal knowledge of a BIG deer that was shot in the right hip and it ran alomost 200 yards before it bled out andgave up the ghost...we found it about 45 min. later ...the hunter who walked up on it could have shot it again and agrued it was not dead and he made the "leathel" shot but he knew the "first blood" rule so there was no incetive for hin to be unethical and thus no fight...always exceptions but in general I say First Blood then there is no judging to be done...I think some might refer to this as "sportmanship"...jmo

dd

442deer 12-02-2007 10:35 AM

RE: whose deer is it?
 
First lethal shot. Sort of on a case by case basis. If I get a double lung on a deer and some jagoff shoots it in the spine on it's death run and drops it and claims it.... place your bets ladies and gentlemen, we are gonna have a fight.


BowHuntingFool 12-02-2007 03:20 PM

RE: whose deer is it?
 
Plain and simple, 1st lethal shot! You could wing a deer and draw blood, 1st blood, so why would you want it if it wasn't a killing shot!

Remnard 12-02-2007 03:50 PM

RE: whose deer is it?
 
I have eliminated that problem. I shoot deer about 4" below the back line, in line with the front legs. The deer has dropped in its tracks everytime. Both shoulders are typically broken along with the spine, and both lungs are gone. I have shot several deer this way and have yet to have one run off.

Some have said: you ruin too much meat. That's not accurate. There isn't much meat in that area of a deer's shoulders. I have spent too much time carving that little bit of meat out of the shoulder bones.

Deer can run too far and too long before succumbing to a heart/lung shot, I have chased my last one.

With that said, it all comes down to ethical hunting. If you wound a deer and it runs off, and another hunter shoots it, we have a moral dilemma. Did you have a killing shot? If it runs several hundred yards, I would say even if you did and another hunter then puts another bullet in it, you will have a problem. Shoot 'em in the shoulders, they don't go anywhere but straight down.

knock 'em down

T.

Arrowmaster 12-02-2007 05:45 PM

RE: whose deer is it?
 
I see it coming as well...

general leee 12-02-2007 05:59 PM

RE: whose deer is it?
 
it is bow hunting ethic first blood

supaflav 12-02-2007 08:11 PM

RE: whose deer is it?
 
I have wondered the same thing. Ithink that it's a little different for every situation. I joined a new hunting club this year and all I do is bowhunt, so I have wondered if I stick one and it runs across the clearcut and someone else shoots it with a rifle, would they try to claim it? If they do...we will break out the bull ring and the last one standing gets the deer.

SouthDakotaHunter 12-02-2007 08:16 PM

RE: whose deer is it?
 

ORIGINAL: Arrowmaster

Whoever puts the first lethal shot on the deer. None of this first blood crap.
Ditto...

isatarak 12-02-2007 08:42 PM

RE: whose deer is it?
 
If I ran into these type of problems, I would either find another place to hunt or quit hunting.

yakuza wiz 12-02-2007 09:23 PM

RE: whose deer is it?
 
but how about this...(happened to someone I used to know.)
the first hunter shot a button buck and he ran about 100 yards and another hunter shot him about an inch away from the where the first shot got him and he droped on the spot.
who gets it?

(PS when this happened, the second hunter was tresspassing on posted land...but we're not going to factor that into this)


I myself have always been for splitting the meat up if both shots are in the chest. (I never tag out so its no big deal for me to tag the deer)
if one is in the neck or gutt than I'll check out the blood trail to see who did what damage.

but another situation could be a monster buck.
I guess it would depend on who shot where and when it droped.

farm hunter 12-02-2007 10:03 PM

RE: whose deer is it?
 
Where I grew up - it was always - 1st blood with BOW - Last shot GUN.

There were never any fights - (I'd never fight over a deer anyhow!). No doubt about the real laws though - 1st one that tags it - its their deer.

I recently took the hunting safety course with my son, and they said that if it ever happens to you and you really really think its your deer - then tag it as well. One thing for sure - if you don't tag it - you don't have any right to it. Call the game warden and he'll sort it out.

Keep in mind --the warden is not going to be any kind of pleased to come out and settle a dispute - so you better berprettydarn sure that you have a case.

FH

swamp rooster 12-03-2007 07:00 AM

RE: whose deer is it?
 
the meanest s.o.b. gets it..

moose1915 12-03-2007 10:33 AM

RE: whose deer is it?
 
so let me get this straight, "first blood" guys...some clown shootsa deer in the leg, next guy shoots it thru the lungs and drops it, but the fool that wounded it gets the deer?

are you nuts? thats the dumbest "rule" i ever heard.


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