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yakuza wiz 11-30-2007 06:19 PM

dead deer question.....eh.
 
Okay
So i hunt on about 40 acres of timber.
and someone threw two road kill deer down in my woods for god knows what reason that may have had...
but now they are starting to rot and stink up the woods and I've started to find an abundance of coyote tracks in the area and i stopped seeing any deer.
what I would like to know is:
How long will it take them to rot away?
How does this effect the deer?
And how long will it take the deer to come back after the smell is gone?

they have both been down there for about two weeks and I have to walk by them to get to any of my stands and It's starting to make me queezy in the morning when i go out.


[hr]BTW
just to make the situation even worse.
sombody told me they saw the truck drop it off...
and it may have been the land owner...

thinktwicez71 11-30-2007 06:23 PM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 
To be quite honest , you might as well kiss this years season there goodbye , you might see the ocasional deer here and there , but the deer will smell the death in the woods , as well as all the coyote smell being in there and won't want to be in there.

BuckMan8 11-30-2007 06:57 PM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 
Yea that is some bad luck right there, sorry man. I agree with thinktwiez71. Them coyotes are going to scare the deer away.

yakuza wiz 11-30-2007 07:18 PM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 
thanks for some info guys.


well, it's sort of an odd shaped chuck of land...how far do you think i would have to get away from it to see a difference?
they are sitting on one corner of the lot and i have a stand set up on the other. just wondering..i'm starting to worry now.

snowball450 11-30-2007 07:24 PM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 
get a tarp and some latx gloves and take them to the land feild if you want to hunt that bad then sit in your deer stand and hunt and if you see a coyote shoot it.coyote is open year around here so i put the crosshairs on my 270 on them and lay them down for good.

jeremy3303 11-30-2007 07:27 PM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 
In all honesty, it probably wont bother the deer much. I found a small buck dead on my property and coyotes were everywhere and never noticed any drop in deer activity. If the coyotes were there to find the deer, then they were around the area the whole time and the deer are more than likely used to them. I wouldn't worry about how it affects hunting. Just get out there and hunt, you surely wont take anything sitting on the couch at home.

Good luck and happy hunting.

yakuza wiz 11-30-2007 07:29 PM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 

now that I am mad that my season might be in the ditch i thought i would show a map of the situation...
the green box is some old abandoned house
the yellow is the deer
and the purple are where my stands are.
about |------| is 500 feet.
PLEASE GIVE ME SOME HOPE!!!!!!


smokems 11-30-2007 08:06 PM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 
If coyotes are a problem, the dead deer would be gone long before now.

8mm/06 11-30-2007 08:14 PM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 
I agree that you should stop worrying about it so much and look for the areas the deer are now using to skirt the particular area. Besides, with the pickings being easy with the free road kill for the yotes, the deer are enjoying a short break from being considered .... with the easy dead stuff available the deer are probably more relaxed but just moved slightly off their usual pattern.

snowball450 11-30-2007 08:53 PM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 
hunt the three stands on the right side of the farm.

deerslayer223 11-30-2007 09:56 PM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 
i wouldnt worry about it and id still hunt if there r yotes in you're area to begin with the deer wont give a crap about em. I'd hunt the same way i did before and not think twice about it. Give this a thought and im sure this has happened to quite afew guys whocan relate how often have you been driving out a thick patch trying 2 bust a few deer out and found a deer or 2 someone poorly shot dead but you're still jumping deer outa there. Same principle. Dont let that deter you from what u want to do. Good luck

johnnybravoo77 11-30-2007 10:21 PM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 
Dont let it ruin your season. A doe with a fawn may be pretty leary of the yotes, a big doe or buck are probaly not to afraid of them. If you hunt and dont see anything, blame the yotes; if you sit on the couch and dont see anything, blame yourself!

snowball450 11-30-2007 10:21 PM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 
i would still hunt it no matter what.you never know what may come lurking through them woods.good luck

moose1915 12-01-2007 06:59 AM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 
deer see and smell death nearly every single day, it won't bother a thing, except your belly!

retrieverman 12-01-2007 08:02 AM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 

ORIGINAL: thinktwicez71

To be quite honest , you might as well kiss this years season there goodbye , you might see the ocasional deer here and there , but the deer will smell the death in the woods , as well as all the coyote smell being in there and won't want to be in there.
This is most ignorant post that I have seen in quite awhile.

I have a specific area where I dump my carcasses, and I see deer in the area every time I go through it. Deer and coyotes cohabit the same areas 365 days a year and having them eating on a deer carcass shouldn't adversely effect your hunting at all. I wouldn't hunt right over the carcasses, but with 40 acres, you have plenty of land to hunt.

muslmutt 12-01-2007 11:00 AM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 
Couple years ago someone paoched a deer 10 yards in front of my stand. They took what meat they wanted and left the carcass. When I found it the yotes etc... cleaned it up pretty good and it smelled bad. In fact that is how I found it, I smelled it 15 yards before I saw it. I drug off what was left and 2 days later killed a 152" 8 point out of that stand. I don't drag off deer to gut them anymore. Last year we killed 3 deer out of the same 100 yard square area. Two are on the wall. Gutted them all where they dropped. Two were killed within 2 days of each other. I would remove the carcasses, wait two days, and hunt there, if conditions (wind etc..)are right.

11pt 12-01-2007 11:05 AM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 

deer see and smell death nearly every single day, it won't bother a thing, except your belly!
Exactly! I wouldn't worry about it. And I'm sure coyotes are there all the time too. Deer evolved to live with all of these things....that's why they're so hard to kill.

skeeter 7MM 12-01-2007 11:35 AM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 

ORIGINAL: 11pt


deer see and smell death nearly every single day, it won't bother a thing, except your belly!
Exactly! I wouldn't worry about it. And I'm sure coyotes are there all the time too. Deer evolved to live with all of these things....that's why they're so hard to kill.
+3

Nature is a cruel world. The deer and coyotes co-existed prior and will continue too. The fact these 2 deer have made it 2 weeks indicates coyotes aren't really a problem. Here they wouldn't last 2 days, expecially inside the bush where the scavangers can eat without being seen. I have seen way to many coyotes and deer in the same field to think otherwise. Deer watch them and keep their distance may even move off but often reappear after the yoddle dogs have moved off. Coyotesaremore opportunists from my experience, generally small game hunter of rabbits, mice, grouse, etc. Being opportunist they will not pass up a meal on an injured or young larger animal but they aren't anything like a wolf that hunts via pack to take down larger then their size quarry.

One thing is sure if you don't go you won't get;). Good Luck

timbercruiser 12-01-2007 01:18 PM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 
I wouldn't worry about them, especially that far away from your stands. I would probably have gone ahead and shoveled some dirt on them early on, but by now they are probably about gone.

thinktwicez71 12-01-2007 01:35 PM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 

ORIGINAL: retrieverman


ORIGINAL: thinktwicez71

To be quite honest , you might as well kiss this years season there goodbye , you might see the ocasional deer here and there , but the deer will smell the death in the woods , as well as all the coyote smell being in there and won't want to be in there.
This is most ignorant post that I have seen in quite awhile.

I have a specific area where I dump my carcasses, and I see deer in the area every time I go through it. Deer and coyotes cohabit the same areas 365 days a year and having them eating on a deer carcass shouldn't adversely effect your hunting at all. I wouldn't hunt right over the carcasses, but with 40 acres, you have plenty of land to hunt.
to each his own , all i was saying was that i would pick another spot rather than close to the dead dear

retrieverman 12-01-2007 03:48 PM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 

ORIGINAL: thinktwicez71


ORIGINAL: retrieverman


ORIGINAL: thinktwicez71

To be quite honest , you might as well kiss this years season there goodbye , you might see the ocasional deer here and there , but the deer will smell the death in the woods , as well as all the coyote smell being in there and won't want to be in there.
This is most ignorant post that I have seen in quite awhile.

I have a specific area where I dump my carcasses, and I see deer in the area every time I go through it. Deer and coyotes cohabit the same areas 365 days a year and having them eating on a deer carcass shouldn't adversely effect your hunting at all. I wouldn't hunt right over the carcasses, but with 40 acres, you have plenty of land to hunt.
to each his own , all i was saying was that i would pick another spot rather than close to the dead dear
That is not at all what you were saying, and I will quote you again.

"You might as well kiss this years season there goodbye..."



1shotkill1993 12-01-2007 06:53 PM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 
pretty obvious to me...hunt in the stand farthest away from the dead deer.

thinktwicez71 12-01-2007 08:14 PM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 
To the person that had the original post , good luck , i honestly hope you get a deer , i just didn't feel that with the dead deer in there , and smelling soo bad to you , that it would of scared the deer off. I was going by the same things happeneding around here , my apologies !

npaden 12-01-2007 08:21 PM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 
I actually put a deer carcass in front of my trail camera earlier this year just to see what would happen.

Check the time stamps on these pictures.





I should have staked the deer down because it was gone without a trace in less than a week. It actually looked like that other deer was sniffing around where the dead deer had been just a couple days after it disappeared.

442deer 12-02-2007 10:40 AM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 
I have shot a deer, came back the next day and found the gutpile gone and coyote tracks everywhere, and shot another deer in the same spot. Just hunt and let nature do it's thang.

yakuza wiz 12-02-2007 09:35 PM

RE: dead deer question.....eh.
 
Thanks for all of your imput you guys, it really makes me appreciate these fourms.

I did a little Sunday scouting today (no Sunday hunting in NC) and as I walked out of the woods up where the deer are I found more deer sign than on any other part of the lot.
the stand closest to the deer is the only one I have not touched since bow season and I believe the hunting pressure may have pushed all the deer into that area.
and I found another thing i would have never expected. a fresh rub and scrape. with a rather big track in the middle of it. didn't have much to compare it to but two quarters and it was about three or so in length.
I think there might just be a good size buck hidding out in that neck of the woods.


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