P&Y vs. B&Y
 

I was talking w/ a guy at work today and this came up. What is the difference between Pope and Young and Boone and Crockett?

Thanks
Jwatts

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Pope and Young is the record of animals taken with archery equipment. Boone and Crockett records those taken with firearms.

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p&y is over 125, b&c is over 170

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Thanks

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Actually, Boone and Crockett recognizes the animal, not the hunter, nor the harvest method. So, as long as the animal was harvested legally, or even picked up or found, and meets the minimum score, it can be entered into the book. This includes archery (compound, traditional, crossbow, etc.), guns, etc. There are lots of entries that were found by folks on the side of a road, or simply walking through the woods.

There are, of course, lots of other rules in the B&C rule book about the animals it recognizes, so don't think this is all inclusive.

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Boone and Crocket is over 160 I believe.

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b&C is 170 net or higher on typical whitetails and 195 net or higher on non-typicals

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Boone and Crocket "awards" is 160", Boone and Crocket "records" is 170" (in both cases I am referring to typical).

"The Book" is the "Record Book", so although you can get a B&C award for a 160" net deer, it's not really in "the book"

confused yet?

Couple other nitpicky things - B&C doesn't recognize velvet. Here in ND, a 230" nontypical (state record) was shot opening weekend of archery season in full velvet. Obviously it makes P&Y, in order to make B&C, the velvet would have to be stripped.

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I'm looking through the 2003 Boone and Crockett record book right now. There are tons of 160-169" typicals and 185-194" non-typicals in the book.

I believe the 170 and 195 numbers are what they call their "all time awards".

If you tell someone you shot a Booner, though, they're expecting 170".

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I am telling you B&C is 160.....I'm not making it up folks.

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http://www.boone-crockett.org/bgRecords/records_minimums.asp?area=bgRecords&ID=416327E 9&se=1&te=1

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Your linking something that has already been said?

B&C Award 160.......All Time 170

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True. But the difference is that the Awards Book (160" for typical whitetail) is only published every three years and includes all trophies entered during the previous three year period. It is simply an awards program to recognize the outstanding trophies. That trophy will never be recognized again. Its a one-time award/recognition, and not considered making "THE B&C Record Book.".

Meeting the 170" mark gets you into the All-Time Records Book, published every six years. That trophy will be in every All-Time Records Book published for years to come, and is considered "THE B&C Record Book."

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When you shoot a buck that is scored over 160 by B&C you get a certificate stating so.......therefore 160 is a B&C animal regardless of when, where or for how long it is published.

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You say tomato, I say tomato. (Read it and you will see my point.)

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Wow, it's getting harder and harder to make the books now. I shot a really nice twelve point non-typical this year that I thought might have had a chance to make it. I don't believe that it will now.

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I thought B&C scores with deductions and P&Y doesnt.
Like say a g3 is 7" on one side and 5" on the other, B&C scoresthem bothas 5"

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Net vrs. Gross!!
Boone was always net with deductions for uneven g's or circum's.
Don't know what they are now since everybody went to just gross!
Me I like true net scores. It makes up for unbalanced deer.
Not just how many total inches.
Eric S. stacy

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I'm a fan of total inches. I find it hard to deduct from a great animal, kind of disrespectful. But I can see both sides of the spectrum you have to have some kind of scale.

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I like both scores and don't really have a preference over the other. Both scores tell you the whole story with total bone and how balanced the rack is.

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net scores are for basketball

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B & C will Honor deer that are 160 They are not a B&C record book buck unless they are 170

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I thought nets were for fishing Gross is for hunting

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Read the rest of the thread, this has been said many times.
160 is a B&C animal......170 is All time and goes in the book......but 160 is recognized as B&C.

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NETS are for FISHING!!!!!

Thats where I don't agree with scoring either. The scoring with deductions is stupid. Total horn growth should be what the deer is. We aren't tryin to produce horses or cattle hear where they get judged on how perfect they are...........WCL

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Haha you beat me to it, owell glad someone else feels the same. haha. WCL

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So, my tape measure in hand comrades... whats the difference between the aforementioned two and BTR scoring? I think I know, but I'll bite my tounge (or should it read fold my hands) for someone who knows for sure.

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I measured a buck yesterday that was a 6 x 5 with 2 kickers of an inch and 4 inches. Since the 6th point was all deduction and there was some uneven tine length this monster 188 gross scoring typical won't make book. It only netted about 165. What a shame.