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Old 10-24-2007, 08:06 AM
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Okay, let me try to make my point a little clearer. Your buddy says the two classes of hunters are rednecksvs. quality outdoorsmen. To me, this shows a little ignorance on his part. The classes he should bereferring to are ignorant hunters vs. quality outdoorsmen, whether people would consider someone a "redneck" or not is completely irrelevant to the issue of irresponsibility in the woods. Just what exactly is a "redneck" to you anyway? A drunk, dirty, pot bellied buffoon living in a trailer park burning trash in his front yard? Where I come from, just about every red blooded, God fearing, hard working,flag waving country boy with a pick up truck and a skoal ring blaring Bocephuswould be considered a "redneck" to you, I'm sure. However, down home country southrons are just as educated about and respectful ofour sportas any uppity billy yank. We don't look down our noses, but we are damn proud of our culture and hold our heads up high for sure. I think you need to realize that Larry the Cable Guy is a comedy routine, not a documentary of an entire culture. The a$$holes you're buddy is thinking of as rednecks are nothing but white trash with no self-respect, and they can be found anywhere in the country.

I agree, In my experiences its not the Good Ole Boys, thats screwin up all the hunting, its the fools that come from the city out into our domain and tramp all over the woods like a lost child....

And the last time I checked redneck is a termthat is so blown out of proportion its not even funny....thanks Jeff and Larry...

A redneck is what people called white farmers in the south because they were always in the field and bent over so that there necks got sunburned. So Yes Im a proud hard working Redneck....not poor white trashor anignorant trigger happy fool.
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Old 10-24-2007, 08:46 AM
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Boy wahoohunter I think your friend is a complete idiot. Is he a racist also? I am a redneck and proud of it. As far as your buddy is concerned, anyone who would breath air to utter such stupid words, isn't no hunter. He'sa st** starter. Hell I probably have more trophies than he does. Wheather it's whitetail or gobblers. I'll agree with most everyone, your buddy needs to determine what a redneck is. Come to my part of the country and talk bad about rednecks. It probably won't be a pleasant sight. People need to think before they speak.
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Old 10-24-2007, 10:06 AM
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Gundeck said, "Living in PA and NY most of my life, I can tell you that there are a TON of hunters from NYC and Philly that give "ignorant hunter" a whole new meaning. They can buy fancy guns and the latest shooting garb, but they wouldn't know an outdoorsman if he smacked them in the head with a clay pigeon. And, as far as gun safety goes, I have seen these high-end shooting sticks used for everything from walking canes to pry bars. (Just ask one of these guys where his buddy is. He is likely to point him out with the gun barrel!)"


Living in Upstate NY also we call these people "Citiots" for City Idiots. Local country radio station loves the term and uses it frequently.
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Old 10-24-2007, 12:16 PM
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I have hunted for 34 out of 40 years of my life, and I have lived in Oregon for about 32 years, 1 year in Northern Idaho, and 1 year in Eastern Washington, and last but not least I now live in New York where I have for 6 years..I'd like to think of myself as a pretty good hunter, I have taken everything from Rabbit and Squirrel to Coyote, Fox, Bobcat to Backtail Deer, Mule Deer, White tail Deer, Black Bear, Rocky Moutain Elk, Roosevelt Elk, Geese, Grouse, Duck, Chuckar, etc. etc. etc...I havetaken this game with all kinds of weapons...And I have delt with all different types of people out hunting.And I'm here to tell you it's not just rednecks who do bad things or city people, it's all kinds of people, people who weren't taught how to hunt and be safe..Just like people pulling up a gunat a animal, seeingfur and shoots, not knowing where he or she just shot that animal...That pisses me off, (if your not sure of your target don't pull that trigger). And another thing, leave the woods the same as when you got there, meaning pick up your garbage!!!And if your going to take the time to shoot at an animal, please please please take the time and look for blood and make every effort to look for that animal even if you don't see blood right away, I have found some of my deer that bled only a few drops of blood and most people would of left it to waste..another one is sight your weapon in, and check it every year before going afield..I hate it when people make bad shots and make the animal suffer do to them not sighting a gun in...Also i am proud of every animal I have ever taken, so i know what it like to want to display your animal for all to see...But please don't go out and shoot a yearling about 5 times through out the body, throw it on top of your truck hood with blood all over the place and drive threw town a half dozzen times...It gives Anti Gun Activist fuel for the fire... Also have you noticed when AA has protest to baiting bear or guns, or running dogs.etc...The comercials on T.V. of the poor animals being shot poorly and suffering, and dogs ripping apart animals etc...Are in fact Videos of illeagal hunts, not your law abiding Sportsman...If we don't wake up today, we will not be able to hunt in the future.I have to go so more later, I could go on for ever...
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Old 10-24-2007, 02:10 PM
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Idiot hunters are not territorial. They are everywhere. It cannot be based on city versus country, north versus south or any other factors. I think it's just bad DNA personally. A little bleach in the gene pool goes a long way.


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Old 10-24-2007, 04:18 PM
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Just wanting to clear something up, I'm from the south as well as is my friend....where we're from in the Appalachians (like someone said earlier) redneck either has negative connotations or is worn as a badge or pride ( haha, I loved the wikipedia source!)...I have to say, in the area I live those who where it as a badge of pride are not those who I'd like myself associate with when it comes to hunting and the outdoors, there exactly who you guys are claiming as bad outdoorsmen, or ignorant outdoorsmen.

ThAt bEiNG SaID that is only in the area in which I live, where I go to school many people label me a redneck just because I hunt, listen to country music and prefer a morning outdoors working hard over a day in the classroom any day. Where I'm from I hear the "You ain't no redneck" comment because even though I do hunt, I don't mind dressing in shorts and flip flops and I leave my camo away till hunting season (why not, don't want any unnecessary scents, right?), but that doesn't make me any less of a hunter? Also where I live, I'm not saying I wouldn't like to be associated with the "rednecks" because they do dress to hunt year round, I say this because a lot of them are those who drink a lot of alcohol while hunting and are extremely reckless and, in my opinion, unethical in the woods. Needless to say, I live in an extremely small area where narrowmindedness is given a new meaning each day. But hey, home is home and I have no complaints, but it it is essential to recognize the shortcomings of a situation.

I'm beginning to formulate an opinion on this, I believe you guys are right that redneck should be left off the idea because there are those who rightfully where it as a badge of honor. Of course, there are those who call themserlves rednecks and are the type of hunter which we like to avoid, but there are also those who would consider themselves quality hunters who we'd like to avoid as well. Not being well educated on the term redneck in other areas of the south left me a little ignorant when first evaluating the statement. In any case, labels are going to be debated as any label will have its positive/negative aspects. I do think, however, that we can all agree that there are those hunters who deserve to be in the woods and those who completely abuse the oppurtunities. One good thing is for sure, those in this forum taking the time and effort to help others and learn more about the sport themselves are definitely the kind of people who I'm proud to say I join as a hunter!!
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:25 PM
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nah man, he's not racist or anything...we were just talking about hunting and there are several probelm hunters in the area where we live...some of whom leave trash, trespass and the whole works...as you can read in a later post by moi, where we're from redneck has a bad connotation, and while my friend (as well as me until hearing you guy's opinions) may be narrow minded on the definition of redneck, the basis on which his idea is based is a firm starting point as you and I can agree, I'm sure, that there are those who we're proud to say hunt and those (like the aforementioned problems around me) who disgrace the sport of hunting all together
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Old 10-24-2007, 10:30 PM
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I take offense to this post and the person that posted it.

I believe that this person only posted this opinion to rile the other patrons of this site.

Where I live at, there are people out there that claim to hunt because they need the food. Ok

But if you stop and figure out how much per a year that I spend on Pick Up Trucks, tires, gas, oil, maintence, insurance, upkeep, guns, ammo, clothes, hats, traveling, lodging, food, snacks etc...

I could eat every night in the best restaraunt in Pittsburgh for 3 months.

Then you figure that I miss one week of work per a year to go Rifle Deer Hunting, right there is another $400.

Another week or two of food in the best restarauntand maybe even a couple of STEELER tickets to boot.

I never trophy hunted and I think that people that do trophy hunt are idiots.
TOTAL IDIOTS!

I hunt to put meat on the table, share with my friends and family members. Share hunting stories at camp, drink beer, eat peanuts, go to the bar and drink beer, watch porno's,smoke cigarettes, and have a good time.

I am more proud of a little nubby buck that I shot out the window of my truck than you are of a 160 class buck that you paid several thousand dollars to shoot on some private preserve.

Posted Land is posted land! It don't matter if it has a fence or not. If it is not public land and if you didn't have to walk 3 miles to get there - then you didn't earn it. All you did was make a nice shot!

Where I come from, the snob's that hunt on posted land and try to keep all the bucks for themselves are the idiots and the snobs.

Here is what POSTED means to me

P - Please
O - Only
S - Shoot
T - The
E - Easy
D - Deer
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Old 10-24-2007, 11:09 PM
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I counted to 10 before replying. I will try not to vent, but here it is. People that areNOT from UP North, the Northeast coast,can be intelligent, well educated, and also very good hunters and stewards of wildlife. People from UPNorth seem to think that anyone who is notfrom there are well, somewhat lessor than themselves. Many peoplefrom large cities up Norththink they are somebigplayer inthe game. If they aren't,thenthey certainly have a big plan for there future that makesthem "special" andone of the better people. They go to A (more likelyC) lists parties and bore each other with the latest great thing they are into. The big media calls New York home, and you would think that other thanCalifornia, nothing else is worth reporting on. There my friend is the rub. Rednecks are rural and suburban people that are both blue collar workers and profesionals.They judge each other not by wealth or station in life, but bya persons, character and deeds.A redneck is not snooty. A redneck will be polite and let you run your mouth until you have completely embarressed yourself with your lack of knowledge on a given subject. The redneck will then politely tell or show you your error without making a big deal of it.A redneck won't look down his nose at you like some know it all country club, wine sipping punk from UP North. Rednecks are the guys that pull over and changes your wife or Mom's flat tire in the rain,or pulled your little hybrid SUV out of the mud.Rednecks just assume that every other gentleman would do the same for his family in the same situation.The children of Rednecks say yes Sir and Maam,and would not think of being disrespectful to their elders. They don't have the time to go to protests or demonstrations, they are too busy with college or working to pick up the slack of those that do. Rednecks are not a bunch of trashy people. Trashy people come from all walks of life, and I've encountered a lot more A holes in the city than I have in the country. I believe your friend suffers from an elitists attitudeattained by hanging out with the country club set. There he can look down his nose at anyone that isn't in the clique without the risk of a recieving a good ol countryboy A** whoopin for being impolite.. Me, I'll hang out next weekend at the deer lease with somegood friends around a fire ring. No wine spritzers and high minded conversation, just a few cold beers a little BS and good people that happen to be rednecks. I'm proud of my Redneck heritage.
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Old 10-25-2007, 12:28 AM
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Hey wahoo, I do understand the kind of people you're talking about. I grew up in Arkansas, and I've seen people all over the South that are just poor white trash, that refuse to do better for themselves. The don't respect themselves or anyone else. I think what rubbed me wrong was just a confusion, like you've said, overterminology. I think everbody here that considers themselves rednecks, or as I do, just a country boy, would want nothing to do with the kind of people you have described.
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