RE: Dogs running deer
 

MAYBE YOU DIDN'T HEAR ME.............

NO MUTTS ON THE FARM!

RE: Dogs running deer
 

Maybe frivolous wasn't a good word. I think it would be a waste of your time and that you would probably lose since there is no law being broken, dogs can't read and if they are released on legal ground and cross over to private ground there is no crime and yes (in VA) the owner of said dog/s can get them off of private property without fear of prosecution or ticketing. Just like if your family dog dug under your fence and ran over to the neighbors yard, you couldretrieve him and that is not considered trespassing. Not saying you don't have a good point just stating what the law says, here anyway. I don't think stampeding elephants and dogs running through your property is a good comparison, but I would say that if the dog did any physical damage to your property the owner of said dog could be liable, but keep in mind deer are not property.

RE: Dogs running deer
 

I just find it absolutely outrageous that people can let their dogs run wherever and whenever they like and there are no rules other than rules that allowthem to trespass on private property. I understand that the dogs can't read. But, the owners know what land they are allowed onand what land they are not allowed on. If dogs can't be controlled to stay on legal property, they shouldn't be allowed off the leash. Period. The way it is apparently set up in VA gives the dog owners Carte Blanche to do whatever they want whenever they want, with no consequences. "Hey, my dog can't read. What do you want me to do? Sorry they chased off that 180" 10 point that you were about to shoot. Tough sh#$. Nothing you can do about it. Hey, tell you what... since they chased him over here by me, and I shot him, I'll let you come over to my place and look at the mount once a year..."

Thank God they don't allow dog hunting in Texas.

RE: Dogs running deer
 

For those straying off topic, remember that lonewolf is talking about dogs chasing deer in Illinois. Let's stay on topic. Not anything about driving deer with dogs or using them in any other manner. In Illinois it is simply illegal to use a dog in any manner while hunting. Tracking? Well that is entirely different.

Where (county) are you talking about lonewolf?

Also let's not forget for one red second that if a deer is run by dogs in a particular area - it isn't going to forget and will make itself scarce around there in the future. And since deer group, that one deer shying away will almost certainly encourage others to stay away.

RE: Dogs running deer
 

And folks...keep this topic decent or it will find its way to never never land.......there is more than enough on this subject in the archives, or if one just does a search. If it has not been deleted cause it got out of hand. Not trying to be a hard butt, just do not need to give Anti's any fuel for their fire here at HNI. Please keep that in mind when posting.
Thanks folks ;):)
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You tried your best Christine B. Hey Lonewolf, I missed the part of your post where you mentioned folks hunting deer with dogs?? :eek:

RE: Dogs running deer
 

Uncle,
Actually we are on topic as this is the original post and sinceI happen to have had "situations like this" and dealt with dog owners herein VA I would say my input applies. Furthermore, it would appear that Lonewolf was talking about another location initially as he then referred to having had dogs raid his camp in illinois "too" (which means also, in addition to, as well as).

Here is some law for you though from your states (Illinois) regulations on animal cruelty. Just thought you should know in case you decide to serve up some antifreeze dog chow. There is also about 40 pages describing all of the laws in regards to killing or maming dogs, which is illegal by the way.

(510 ILCS 70/6)

Sec. 6. Poisoning prohibited. No person may knowingly poison or cause to

be poisoned any dog or other domestic animal. The only exception will be

by written permit from the Department for the purpose of controlling

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diseases transmissible to humans or other animals and only when all other

methods and means have been exhausted. Such a written permit shall

name the person or persons conducting the poisoning, specify the

products to be used, give the boundaries of the area involved, and specify

the precautionary measures to be employed to insure the safety of humans

and other animals.

This Section does not prohibit the use of a euthanasia drug by a

euthanasia agency for the purpose of animal euthanasia, provided that the

euthanasia drug is used by or under the direction of a licensed veterinarian

or certified euthanasia technician, all as defined in and subject to the

Humane Euthanasia in Animal Shelters Act.

A person convicted of violating this Section or any rule, regulation, or

order of the Department pursuant thereto is guilty of a Class A

misdemeanor. A second or subsequent violation is a Class 4 felony.

I would like to say I understand but killing dogs because they mess up your hunting is illegal in most cases, so I guess I would say I understand your prediciment just don't agree with your actions. Lets all start disregarding the laws we don't like or agree with, that will show them how ethical we are.

RE: Dogs running deer
 

I've had problems in the past where people let their dogs run loose and refused to pen them up. We asked them twice to keep them on their own property and when they refused we shot one of them. Their attitude was they could do whatever they wanted and there was nothing anybody could do about it. After the first one was shot the locked up the other ones.My uncle had problems with dogs getting in packs and killing his calves. Most of them were feral dogs though a few were from the neighbors and when he caught them he told the neighbor about it and they refused to believe their dog would do something like that. He ended upkilling over 20 dogs on his propertykilling hiscalves. They would kill them and leave them lay and never try to eat them.

RE: Dogs running deer
 

its ok here to shot them if they are runing deer an thats just what i do

RE: Dogs running deer
 

Not in the state of Ky its not.

RE: Dogs running deer
 

MAN THIS IS A TUFF TUFF QUESTION ....A HUNTERS FIRST RE-ACTION WOULD BE TO SHHOT THE DOG ...BUT ITS REALLY NOT THE DOGS FAULT HE'S DOING WHATS NATURAL FOR A DOG TO DO AND LIKE US HE WANTS TO HUNT ...I FAULT THE OWNER OF THE DOGWHO LETS THAT DOG RUN WILD WHICH A LOT DO OUT IN THE COUNTRY ...I WOULD TRY A WARNING SHOT TO SEE IF I COULD SCARE HIM OFF BECAUSE MOST LIKELY HE HAS RUINED YOUR HUNT ANYWAY ...AND IF I COULD I WOULD TRY TO FIND THE OWNER AND REASON WITH HIM ...IF THAT DIDNT WORK AND THE DOG CAME BACK I MIGHT TRY SHOOTING HIM WITH SOME ROCKSALT ...I JUST DO NOT HAVE THE HEART TO SHOOT A DOG ...SPECALLY WHEN THEY KNOW NO BETTER ... IF ITS A PACK OF DOGS THEN I MOST LIKELY WOULD TRY TO SCARE THEM OFF BUT IF THEY KEPT COMING BACK I WOULD LIGHT THEM UP

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