Mock Scraps
 

I recently purchased a farm close to my home and will be able to get out to it frequently. I'd like to try and make some mock scraps this year around some of my stand locations. I was wondering if anyone had some advice for me...i.e.- How often should I check on the scrap? Do I need to purchase a drip bag and hang it above the scrap? Is this even an effective tool for hunting or does it put to much of my scent in an area? How successful are they? Should I do more than one in a small area? Really any advice would be great!!!! Thanks in advance!

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My buddy swears by them, he hangs a dripper over it and hunts it in the mornings. I have tried but havent had any luck myself but have seen the deer he takes so i guess it has to work sometimes. good luck.

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when making one use rubber boots and gloves. my sucsess veries some times it work sometimes it doesn't

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It can't hurt and like has been said use rubber boots and a dripper will add to the effect.

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i have used mock scrapes very effectively for several years. Tried the commercial drippers and found that they use too much pee. i make my own drippers with a film can:Drill a small hole in the bottom, fill it with cottonballs and then pour in a mixture of doein heat and buck in rut pee.Hang it up over the scrape. It drips a few drops per day and keeps the big ones coming back.

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Thanks falcon,

May try that. What size drill bit so I don't have to go by trial and error and
smell like doe pee?

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try out this product...they are relatively cheap and come with scent...good instructions from their site. And number 1 thing is to be scent free when you go in and do make the scrape!!
http://scrapemaker.com/scrapemaker.htm

DeerHuntMO

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Are mock scraps like fake peices of scrap meat????? Some people have to lean how to use SPELL CHECK. Its "SCRAPES":D

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This message posting system has spell check? I must have version 1.0.

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A dripper works great during the season to make the deer think the scrape is being freshened during hunting hours. You're best off starting your scrapes in the pre-season though and I wouldn't bother with a dripper at that point. Buck Fever Synthetics makes a scent called Pre/Post Rut. I think it's the best stuff to start a scrape with because it doesn't include any rut scent and it lasts a long time. Around here in Northern Illinois, I'd start using the dripper with buck scent in it about mid-October and at the end of October or the first part of November I'd start using doe in heat scents.

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When you make a mock scrape be sure there is a licking branch above it. Without one the scrape will not be effective. As Huntmdown said, the Buck Fever Synthetics are great for getting one going. They have a gland scent you spray on the branch and the pre rut mild urine to put in the scrape. I've been making mock scrapes and doctoring up existing scrapes for years and they are interesting to watch.

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"May try that. What size drill bit so I don't have to go by trial and error and
smell like doe pee?"

About 3/32nds or 1/8th inch.Fill the film can with cotton balls andpour in about one ounce of doe pee mixed with buck bee.Hang it from a branch. Pour someof the buck/doe pee in the scrape. The can drops a few drops in 24 hours and makes him think that another buck is hitting on the does in his territory. This will often drawa dominant buck out of a nocturnal mode and make him visit the scrapesin the day time. Bend over another small branchand tie it so he can rub his face on it. i've seen them actually sniffing at the hanging pee can.

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They are hit and miss. One thing I think you have to make sure of is that there is a licking branch over the top. These situations have always been more productive for me. The nuttiest thing that ever happenned to me with a scrape (I usually try to hunt a scrape line), was one day I had to pee so bad but I didn't want to pee out of the stand so I climbed down and peed right on a buck's scrape and then messed it up with my rattling antlers. A nice 5x5 showed up about an hour later and he went just nuts!!! Snotting and scaping like wild. It was just at the beginning of the rut so I think he was just running stupid and I was very lucky. Dropped him where he stood. It happenned only once but was cool to see.

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Yes, they are hit and miss at best. It is best to find a real scrape and hang a dripper filled with both buck and doe in heat pee.iv'e watched a few as they sniffed their scrape that i doctored:They go nuts. A friend killed a 186incherchecking a doctored naturalscrape.

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I made one behind my house 4 years ago. They still beat it up to this day. I use Bob Kirschner's Silver Top Gel and just drop some in it once a week or so. By the next day, they tear it up. I've seen bucks and does in it and have video of both a small 6 point and a larger 10 that would score 130-140 working it over.

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Ditto.. same here, I've used buck fever synthetics since 98.

Application is key...Make sure you are clean ...any time you visit amock scrapebe meticulous about your human scent. I like the drippers for the simple reason they do the work for you. Leaving human odor on the licking branch or near the scrape itself is the reason why so many mock scrapes go bad.

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I have been wanting to try the mock scrap, I do have a dripper by Wildlife Research Center. How do you get in there and tie it with out disturbing anything? Would it be easier to get a hook up ina tree then just use a stick or something like it to put it on it for less disturbance?

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Last season i tried a mock scrape for the first time. I put it out and came back an hour later with my stand, and it was all tore up with some big tracks. I got all excited and put my stand up. For the rest of the season nothing touched it. I had a deer-cam in front of it too and got nothing. Some scrapes down the trail a little bit got some nice action, but mine wasnt touched. I guess its just hit or miss in my opinion.

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I use the "thermal" drippers (Wildlife Research). They work by the heating and cooling of the container by the temp change from day/night. I found they used scent too fast so I plugged the ends and drilled an 1/8" hole and the scent would last for weeks. That way you can stay away from them longer. The thermal drippers are also great because they only drip in during the day. This helps to get the deer coming to them a bit more in daylight than in the dark. Deer know fresh.

Gotta remember that a scrape site is where a deer will be using it's smell to it's fullest extent so the recommended rubber boots (and gloves) areA MUST!

Good scrapes include the recommended licking branch and the site should be chosen to include a good licking branch.

I use a pair of the "extended pliers" (you know what I'm talking about? the kind you use to pick trash and stuff up with so you don't have to bend over) to place my bottles pretty high up in the tree. I use big fish hooks to hang them.

If you really want to see what your set-up is doing - game cam the site.

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Johnny one trick I do when doing mock scrapes is i will find a real scrape on another property and take a large garbage bag and place it over the branch and cut it off. Then tie it to where you are going to make your mock scrape and remember to where rubber gloves and rubber boots. I find the smell of different bucks in the area makes them really curious. Walt

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Mock Scrapes have been a VERY effective tactic for putting P&Y class animals under my stands and in my shooting lanes every season. I've experiemented with many of the commercial drippers and such but THE most effective tactic and scent that I've EVER used is by simply applying James Valley Scents Gel on over hanging licking branches. Not ony my own in the field observations have proved this tactics effectiveness but hundreds of tralcam photos have confirmed it. One cashew sized application on a licking branch will have bucks tearing up the mock scrape for over a week.

The most attractive scnets I've used are Wall Hanger and Lethal Weapon Gel. I begin establishing my Mocks in Aug and by Sept I have photos of potential shooters. I have traditionally found though that the PRIME time to hunt mock scrapes generally occurs earlier in the season then most hunters realize. My best/largest bucks shoow up on the scrapes between Oct 18 to 24. Good luck and good huntin'

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This is my home made pee dripper. They work as well as anything else.

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BEST INVENTION EVER MADE FOR HUNTING IS THE SCENT DRIPPER. IF I CAN KEEP THEM FROM BEING STOLEN. I'LL HUNT OVER 10 OR SO MOCK SCRAPES A YEAR. IT BRINGS THEM IN. KEY IS TO MAKE SCRAPE UNDER LICKING BRANCH AND HANG DRIPPER WELL ABOVE BRANCH SO IT DRIPS ON BRANCH. GETS THEM EVERY TIME.

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Thanks for all the help guys! I can't wait to get out there!

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What does a dripper usually contain?

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A dripper usually contains doe in estrus pee...It could also contain dominate buck pee...

I have had good success by using real scrapes and either keeping them fresh by pouring in a half bottle of Tinks or a half bottle of Tinks powder...I have also made a scrape right beside the original and peed in it....

Here are two quick stories...We have an old logging trail that runs beside one of our fields about 100 yards in the woods...I go in there 3-4 days before I plan to hunt, hang 3-35mm film canisters with a cotton ball down the trail and pour in some Tinks...Usually there is a scrape under one particular holly tree...If there isn't one there, I make one, I then pour a half bottle of Tinks in and leave the area...When I return to hunt, I drag a rag soaked in Tinks while I walk in...A couple of years ago I killed 3 bucks in two afternoon hunts by using this method...To date, either I or one of my buddies have killed 11 bucks doing this out of the same tree.

Another field always has a scrape under one particular tree limb...I freshened up that scrape one Sunday afternoon and hunted the field on Wednesday afternoon...About 30 minutes before sundown 9 does entered the field, walking right over that scrape, one stopped and peed in it...They fed for about 10 minutes...I heard a loud grunting sound back in the woods...A nice 9 pointer popped out of the woods and put his nose in the scrape, he began running does, trying to find the hot one....They took him out of my sight and I thought they were headed into the woods, I grabbed my grunt tube and imitated the loud grunting sound that I had heard....The does headed my way and ran right by my stand, as they ran by I was counting them, sure enough he was bringing up the rear....A 100 gr CoreLokt from my .243 dropped him on the spot....One of the most exciting hunts I have ever had.

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Antler Addict hit it on the head. You have to have a licking branch. I myself will hang a tarsal gland on the licking branch. I then use dominate buck urine on the tarsal gland (tarsal glands are available to purchase at some sporting good stores). If you cant find them at stores, go to the meat processor who butcher deer. I will make a large round scrape with the tarsal gland and licking branch above it. Then I will add Tinks 69 and doe droppings to the scrape. I usually make around 10 different scrapes. Mock scrapes really do work. Ive killed quite a few deer while hunting them...