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deerhunter2006 04-15-2007 03:27 PM

deer rifle
 
HI, im a very big deerhunter and im gonna be hunting in the thickects half of the season and the rest in fields and i will be taken shots between 100 to 400 yards and was wondering what caliber would you suggest to use cause thier is about amillion to choose one!i was leaning towards the 7mm mag and 300mag what would yall suggest!

retrieverman 04-15-2007 05:21 PM

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According to your earlier posts, you already have a 45-70 and a 270, and for thickets, the 45-70 should be fine. For 100+ yard shots, the 270 should do the trick. If you want a magnum caliber, knock yourself out, but you are pretty well covered with 45-70 and 270.

270 bdl 04-15-2007 05:21 PM

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I'd go with a 270 or 7 mag. 30-06 would be good too.

HoytUltratec 04-15-2007 05:55 PM

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Maybe a 7mm if ur just looking to spend money on a new gun.[:-]

timbercruiser 04-15-2007 06:46 PM

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If you already have a .270 you already have a great rifle. If you don't have a quality scope on it then that is where I would put my money.

trailer 04-15-2007 06:48 PM

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Either one would work but my choice would be the 7 mm Rem. Mag if that’s what you’re referring to...

retrieverman 04-15-2007 06:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: timbercruiser

If you already have a .270 you already have a great rifle. If you don't have a quality scope on it then that is where I would put my money.
Excellent advice! With a 45-70 and 270 in his aresenal, optics would definitely be a better way to spend some extra funds. How about a Zeiss Conquest?

redneck buck hunter 04-15-2007 08:43 PM

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I agree, .270 is all you need. Spend money on scope.

TROPHYHUNTER25 04-16-2007 04:01 AM

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30/06 would work just fine

younggun308 04-16-2007 09:22 AM

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I say get a Leupold 4x12x50, they have a great one which has the bottom of the lens curved so that you get the scope closer to the barrel, which results in better accuracy, and you still get the perks of a 50mm objective lens.


I think the .270 should be fine, but a 7mm Remington Magnum would fit the bill for higher velocity and trajectory performance.

thegamehunter 04-16-2007 10:49 AM

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Deerhunter2006: I know you asked between a 7mm and 300 mag originally, so I would definately go with the 300 mag. Its pretty straight forward why. Just look at the ballistics between the 2. 7mm would be my second choice so I'm not saying its bad. You can use the 300 for everything from deer to elk or moose depending on bullet used. I would stay away from the .30-06 there is simply flatter shooting with the 300, its basically the same bullet with more powder in the 300 anyway. Good for the long shots youre talking about. Goodluck.

Jr_120 04-16-2007 11:04 AM

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Cant go wrong with the reliable 30-06

thegamehunter 04-16-2007 11:35 AM

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ORIGINAL: Jr_120

Cant go wrong with the reliable 30-06
You can't go wrong but you can go better.

Jr_120 04-16-2007 01:05 PM

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You are entitled to your opinion

skeeter 7MM 04-16-2007 09:22 PM

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7mm rem mag, it will do anything the 300wm will but with less recoil & powder. 300wm makes it's hay with 180-200gr bullets and these really aren't required for the likes of deer. Though like stated if you already have a 45-70 and 270win you got all you need for your stated usage/requirements.


TGH, the 300wm and 3006(ect) use the EXACT same bullet all .308 caliber based cartridges.;)

whitetaildreamer 04-16-2007 09:32 PM

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The 7MM Mag would be my choice. I agree with skeeter because us prairie boys are used to reaching out to touch them. Excellent flat line balistics.

thegamehunter 04-16-2007 09:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: skeeter 7MM

7mm rem mag, it will do anything the 300wm will but with less recoil & powder. 300wm makes it's hay with 180-200gr bullets and these really aren't required for the likes of deer. Though like stated if you already have a 45-70 and 270win you got all you need for your stated usage/requirements.


TGH, the 300wm and 3006(ect) use the EXACT same bullet all .308 caliber based cartridges.;)
Yeah thats why I told him "the same bullet with more powder in the 300"

npaden 04-16-2007 09:48 PM

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I was going to reply that if it is only deer that you are after then a .270 win would be about the ideal rifle. Pushing a 130 gr bullet it's about the same as a 7mm Rem Mag pushing a 150 gr but the 130 gr bullet should be plenty for even a big mule deer IMO.

The 300 win mag is a heck of a gun, but a bit overkill for deer if that's all you are after IMO. The 7mm Rem Mag is a fine gun and it's the one I chose, but that's because I want to throw an ocassional elk into the mix. If I was just after deer and smaller (a .270 win is also an excellent antelope gun) I would have gone with a .270 win.

So if you already have a .270 win and you really will only be using the rifle for deer then get a nicer .270 win (like a Kimber Montana or Browning A-Bolt Stainless Stalker) or put some money into a nicer scope or put your money in a savings account for something else.

My 2 cents. Nathan

skeeter 7MM 04-16-2007 10:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: thegamehunter

its basically the same bullet with more powder in the 300 anyway.
didn't read that way Sorry

thegamehunter 04-17-2007 04:51 AM

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Hey Skeeter... just curious if you've had any experience with the 7 WSM? Is there much difference in oerformance from the Rem Mag? I think I may look into one. Just curious since the name and all... thanks

retrieverman 04-17-2007 06:12 AM

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Where is Deerhunter2006?!?! He posted and left. I went back and read his previous posts to get a little more info that he SUPPOSEDLY already has a 45-70 and a 270. IF the guy is JUST deer hunting, he is pretty well covered, BUT as some have suggested, IF he intends to hunt larger game, he may actually have a need for the 7mm Mag or 300 Win Mag.

Oh where, Oh where has deerhunter2006 gone?

vadeerkiller 04-17-2007 04:00 PM

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Only live once, my vote for .300 win mag

snedd162 04-18-2007 03:25 PM

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i would suggest a 7mm-08

thndrchiken 04-18-2007 05:11 PM

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I don't think this kid has a clue as to what he wants or needs, if you read his other posts it seems like he just reads about a cartridge and then has to have it. He's worried about the price of a 700 Sendero but yet wants a 7mmrum and a 257 weatherby. Both of which are $50 or better for a box of shells???

LebeauHunter 04-18-2007 05:54 PM

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This sounds like my brother who has the best of every piece of hunting gear but hardly ever uses any of it.

Anyway, a 300 mag is probably overkill on deer. For a better all around deer cartridge that is capable of reaching out to 400 yards (I wouldn't shoot that far due to large chance of injury), a better cartridge would probably be the 270 WSM. 270 WSM is plenty for any deer. You also get to say you are shooting a "magnum."

P.S. Got a 270WSM last year, but before that a plain old 270 or 30-06 never let me down.


2006HighSierra 04-18-2007 08:48 PM

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depends on your style. personally I'm a leverman and shoot no other centerfire. i'd recommend the new .308 Marlin Express. Or possible a 444 XLR Marlin. If you practice yourself at the longer ranges you can do the job well with either.

Rebel Hog 04-18-2007 09:15 PM

RE: deer rifle
 

ORIGINAL: deerhunter2006

HI, im a very big deerhunter and im gonna be hunting in the thickects half of the season and the rest in fields and i will be taken shots between 100 to 400 yards and was wondering what caliber would you suggest to use cause thier is about amillion to choose one!i was leaning towards the 7mm mag and 300mag what would yall suggest!
If you plan on 400yd shots, go with the 7mm mag.

AJ52 04-18-2007 09:43 PM

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i will be taken shots between 100 to 400 yards
From what I read from poster I would think 30-06 or 270 All Day - Any Day is all this shooter needs out to 300yrds.Lets face it there are VERY FEW hunters out there that can stretch a shot past 200 - 250 let alone 400 yrds! Spend the money on a Good Scope and mounts.When you get to be a Big Game - Long Range - Hot Shot move up in caliber.My .02

clint802 04-19-2007 07:30 PM

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You don't need another gun. Unless you just want to buy one. Your 270 will shoot just as flat as the 7 mag.

skeeter 7MM 04-21-2007 12:36 AM

RE: deer rifle
 

ORIGINAL: thegamehunter

Hey Skeeter... just curious if you've had any experience with the 7 WSM? Is there much difference in oerformance from the Rem Mag? I think I may look into one. Just curious since the name and all... thanks
Not a lot but what experience I have had with a 7 wsm was it didn't live up to expectations with 160gr + bullets, 140 and 150's fine but the longer bullets in the short fat case cause some losses ( not uncommon with the WSMs and heavy for caliber bullets). I am not so sure about the 7wsm's longevity either, sale here are low and it appears this isn't a blip on the radaras it isn't doing that well elsewhere either!

IMHO if your wanting a short action deer rifle in .284 cal then the wellestablished 7-08 isa nice package. If you don't mind a LA or wanting a rifle for more then deer regularily then I suggest going with the established 280 rem, 7mm rem mag or 7mm STW. The 7mm RUM offers little over the STW in performance and it's future isn't really bright either. What the LA cases do give you is the benefit of the heavy for caliber bullets, their is simply nothing a 160 or 175/.284 won't do that a 180/200gr .308, anything short of grizzlies, both equally capable IME.

Since you already own a 300wsm no real benefit to adding a 7mm wsm but ifyou're wanting something a little smaller and like what the wsm offers why not pick one that has a bright future, AKA the .270wsm.


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