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http://www.remington.com/magazine/ar.../2002_0506.asp

This is a link to the article, I hope it works.

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thanx guys...now i am prepared if somthing like 308shtrs shot came up....i honeslty dont know if i can do it...all of my deer were running or moving pretty good...hunting in a thicket near the edge the deer are all being kicked into it or around it...thats why i became a good moving target shooter with a rifle fast..when the time comes i know where to shot though...thanx guys...

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FYI, Tazman & Txcowboy, being i live in area that the average buck is 250 on the hoof with many reaching 300 and higher. I have witnessed in my 21 years 3 neck shot deer that never even reacted to the shot, 2 of which I witnessed. 1 deer this fall in fact was tacked through the neck meat but just kept coming to the grunting/rattling sounds, he was put down with a second shot to the shoulders. We thought he missed but when we inspected the animal, the shot went clean through only meat on the right side of the neck(probably only 1" or so from the neck itself...he was using 150 Gr Boattail out of an 3006) That deer weighed approx 275 on the hoof and had a decent sized swollen neck...but not huge.

While I agree the neck shot or head shot if excuted will put the animal down quickly, you must be aware of the possibility of the the less than desored outcomes. Mauser shooting a buck in the head is not the thing to do, especially if you want to mount or score him. A broken skull and no score! I guess you can decide if that matters to you, though. If the deer is facing you straight on aim for were the neck meets the shoulder and center of mass, this way if you drop your hairs you'll blow in the shoulder and get vitals, especially at 50 yards hucking 165 lead. If the deer is walking away..well that is a tough one. I personally wouldn't shoot that shot unless i saw the animal enough to determine he was a shooter...than I would have to say aim at the base of the neck and center of mass again. Or if you like a fun cleaning job...you can fire it up the HOOP! While it is messy & waste of meat, a busted pelvis will result in a deer on the dirt like now!(also alot of room of error, nobody can deny that...but nobady will also say it is shot they'd suggest either)

Mauser, nobody is questioning your a good enough shot to pull off the neck, only you can determine that. It's just you asked if broadside were do you aim for a neck shot...IMO this is a stupid decision to make with a 06 and 50 yards. Part of learning and asking for opinion is getting answer you may not want to hear, it is ultimately up to you to decide what you want to take and use.

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I have only shot 2 in the neck both dropped in their tracks, luck i guess. The first was 130 yards and hit it dead center in the base of the neck where it meets the shoulders. The second was walking away from me at about 65 yards in the back of the neck. Both shots were with a 30-30 using 170 gr. core-lokts. The only spot i have heard of that drops them every time is the top of the shoulder blade where it meets the spine.

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Ive shot many does in the neck and every one of them except for one has dropped its tracks. The one that didnt drop i its tracks was a doe a shot in the jugular vein i wentabut 20 yds and piled up there. I ruin less meat and it in my opinion isa good clean kill. I alo shoot a shotgun with deer slugs and that may be different that a rifle expansion on impact. thanks

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Taz I think you got me confused with someone else I have never taken a neck or head shot, and yes we do have small targets but we have alot of them.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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I won't take the neck shot, I've seen too many deer killed in my club that were shot in the neck above the spine by some other guy a half a mile away on the other side of the field. On any decent sized deer, you shoot a couple of inches high, there's nothing there but muscle. Just remember when you take the neck shots, if you're a couple or more inches high, you could be condemning the deer to die days later.
Never could figure why someone wouldn't want to shoot them in the chest? The only good shot is a broadside shot for the average hunter, even more so for the younger, less experienced guys. I take John Wooten's advice, picture a basketball in the center of the deer's chest, and aim for the center. Sure, if the deer's close, and relaxed, I may take the heart shot or lung shot to not waste any meat, but why get fancy? No other shot leaves as much margin of error as the chest shot, you have 6 inches or so, at least, in every direction, andd you're still in the kill zone. You miss by half that high on the neck, you have a wounded deer.

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texastracker you are right, I get confused easy at my age!!LOL I had you and TxCowboy confused, sorry.

The Tazman aka Martin Price
Founder and President of
Virginia Disabled Outdoorsmen Club

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I take neck shots all the time. My father takes them too. We have never lost a deer we shot in the neck. They have all fallen right away. Between the two of us we have close to 50 years experience, and numerous kills. We both shoot a .270 with super X bullets (they used to be superX, now i think they're the silver tips or whatever).

Contrary to popular belief, you don't have to sever the spinal cord to take them down right away. If you're a little low, it won't actually sever the spinal cord, but it will rip the neck out. When taking neck shots, if you aim for a little bit above the middle of the neck, you'll be fine. Now, if you can't hit the bottom of a Coke can at 100 yards consistantly, then i wouldnt take a neck shot. I dont ALWAYS take neck shots, if its near dark or raining, or if something just doesn't seem right, i take the shoulder shot. But on a nice sunny clear day, and that deer is standing broadside, I go for the neck. If you do break the neck, then it sure makes it easy to cut the head off though.

Anyways, thats my experience.

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I guess we're about evenly divided on this, as we all have different experiences with shooting deer and which shots we see as more humane. Too many variables come into play which make any one of them perfect.

I know I've shot deer at one time or another through the lungs, through the shoulder, through the heart and through the neck, and I have to admit, the central neck shot is something to behold. It instantly stops all movement of a deer into sudden paralysis as it bleeds the jugular dry. If you don't have good shootin' ability and put one through it's esophagus, well you're in for some bad luck and a lost deer.

50 yard broadside chance on a still deer, easily a neck shot. 100 or more yards away broadside, go for the chest shot. Got a deer facin' ya, put one low through it's chest. Head shot? Nah, I'm not a gamblin' man.

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I have shot a deer in the neck, and this year I shot me elk through the neck at 200 yards with 30-06 shooting 165 grains of lead. she dropped in her tracks, the bullet took out 2 vertibre (sp) would I do it again, only if I knew that the shot conditions were perfect like they were. heres the thing if you feel you can take the shot through the neck its your choice, and go for it

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mauser06,the &quot;magic&quot; spot your looking for is a shot high in the lungs.The shock to the spine knocks them right down.The expansion of the bullet blows the ribs & the lungs right out.99.9% of the time deer do not get up,if they do a blind man could fowllow the blood trail.I shot a large 8 point this year facing me in the neck BUT I was shooting off sand bags.I shoot a 7mm Mag. with handload 140gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips.Broadside high lung shots are increadible & I would take them everytime if the animal offered it.

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Just an observation I will throw out there for all to ponder. What I have noticed in this thread is every person who almost exclusively uses neck shots are from areas where 95% of the deer are less than 200 pounds on the hoof, in Va. in the areas I hunt bucks can easily exceed 200 pounds on the hoof and the only neck shot I have ever taken was on a doe that weighed about 140 on the hoof, she dropped like a ton of lead bricks, screwed up a lot of meat though.

I guess where I am going with this is it appears that in areas where deer are large, a neck shot is not one to be taken unless you are absolutely sure of the shot hitting vertabrae, and in areas where the deer are smaller it seems as though, simply due to the shock factor smaller deer can be reliably be taken with a neck shot without needing to hit vertabrae.

I know in Va. the larger deer I have skinned and butchered had large areas of just muscle in the neck that would allow for a neck shot to not take a vertabrae nor hit any major artery.

If I want to make sure a deer doesn't run I will simply shoot through it's shoulder, of course I do not havve the worries some have of a hunter being near by to steal a deer from me.

The Tazman aka Martin Price
Founder and President of
Virginia Disabled Outdoorsmen Club

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Hey guys, I took my video of me shooting that 10pt in the neck at 220 yrds and made it into a .mpeg movie file. I had to make it short and the quality of the .mpeg is poor but it is still pretty cool. I think ya'll would enjoy seeing it and it would demonstrate what every deer I have shot in the neck has done. However, there's one problem. I need an online site to host it for me. Any ideas on a free movie hosting site?

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Hey guys, I took my video of me shooting that 10pt in the neck at 220 yrds and made it into a .mpeg movie file. I had to make it short and the quality of the .mpeg is poor but it is still pretty cool. I think ya'll would enjoy seeing it and it would demonstrate what every deer I have shot in the neck has done. However, there's one problem. I need an online site to host it for me. Any ideas on a free movie hosting site?

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BY the way some people suck at shooting and should never try a neck shot.I have never had one run off from a neck shot but have had them run off from a lung shot.
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RET, thanks for the tip. I went over there and registered and uploaded my video but the problem is, every person who wants to see it will have to go thru their registrations process. I guess that's ok but it's too much of a hassle for most folks. I wish I could find a free place where people could see it without registering. Thanks for the help.

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I could see a neck shot being dead stopper only if you hit bone,either way if you hit a deer in the neck it is going to go down eventually!

Lee

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thanx for the info guys...if the time comes where i need to take a neck shot i am now educated on it...and bayonet...a few people alreayd said that they never hit the spine or verabrae and they still dropped..when you are shooting a rifle that is...rifle bullets hit and send a shock through the muscle and everything..and then they expand sending the shock alot farther than the bullet hole itself..and the shock is enoguh to paralyze the game and drop it...then you hit aretries and maybe windpipe and everything else which kills it fast....