30-06 what grain work best for brush??
 

I have been hunting out of a blind & I'm about 125 yards from a cornfield, that has deer coming out of it,but won't come into the open.When i try to get closer i never see anything (i think cuz it is in a hollow & they can sent me),but where i have my blind it is up above them, but ihave to shoot through a brushy fence line. Any suggestions?? thank you. Ps ionly have a 30-06 & 12 gauge shotgun.

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no such thing...no matter what when any bullet or slug of any grain or design hits anything it deflects from its normal route..best advice i can give is maybe clear a few shooting lanes and hope they walk through them...thats about all you can do....
good luck...

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150 grain power point. good mushrooming with those bullets.

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My suggestion would be to not shoot through a heavy brush line. Try to cut a small opening through to use as a shooting lane. Some guns work better in the brush than others, but none of them will bust right through without changing directin or tumbling. That said, I use 180 grains in my '06, and just try to get a couple of inch wide opening to give me some margin of error. Good Luck!

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sorry Mauser, I was typing while you were posting! Great minds think alike I guess.

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i use 165 grain and they work just great but to be sure i would use 180 grain

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I use an '06, and I've got to agree with both Mauser and Bionicrooster, in that if at all possible, do not shoot through brush. Your bullet, no matter whether it's a 55-grain Remington Accelerator or a 220-grain round nose, will be deflected by the brush.

That being said, I use 165-grain Winchester Ballistic Sivertips.

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Just how wide and thick and high is this fence row ???????What is in the fence row?Trees ,bushes or briars?
No matter what,use the 06,with whatever bullet you have,and aim well,things happen!

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Do us all and yourself a favor and don't shoot unless you have a clear shot. Its all fun and games until someone gets shot. Also, like has been said before, there is no such thing as a brush busting bullet. It is a myth that has caused more wounded animals than game on the table.

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The 220 grain bullet is best for brush, it will knock down more brush than any other. However, for deer I would use the 150, 165 or 180, depending on what shoots best in a given rifle, and I would only shoot through air.

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I'll add my ditto to those above. The brush busting caliber is a myth. You can't hit brush and expect to hit the deer where you are aiming.

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dont shoot thru brush it aint a good idea. like they said clear some shooting lanes

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Well, if you take a page out of the military's book you would go with the heaviest grain bullet your rifle shoots well.

While brush WILL effect it's path the heavier the bullet, the LESS the deflection.

One of the complaints about the 5.56 NATO in Vietnam was it's deflection in the jungle. 7.62 was far less effected by brush.

Also most police sharp shooters choose .308 when glass is a factor in taking a shot since .223 deflects so much.

So yes they will all deflect, but some will deflect more than others.

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I would also add that it really is important where the brush is. If it is within a foot of the deer and it is just a little twig, you can shoot right through it and the deflection wont matter. If it is farther away from the deer than that, then you cannot shoot. A slight deflection 20 feet from the deer is a not only unethical in my mind, but also unsafe. I agree there is no brush buster out there, it is a total myth. Funny how many guys are chiming in with XXX grains, etc.

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i use 165 grain. but i would say that 150 grain will work just fine. the heavier grain will make it through it

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GeoffM24, in a combat situation, I wouldn't care where I hit you. A hit is a hit since all wounds take up enemy resources. However, while hunting we are not on a battlefield. We as hunters have a responsibility to make clean, ethical kills on clearly identified animals. Magic brush bullets are indeed a myth. If they were true no one would ever miss with a muzzle loader or a shotgun slug.

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There is no such thing as a brush busting bullet period.

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It seems like you guys are trying to make a &quot;gray area&quot; into a black and white situation.

Will an outside force affect a bullets trajectory? Heck yeah. But that doesn't stop at brush that includes wind, rain etc. etc. So obviously a bullet affected by an outside force will not perform EXACTLY like it would have had it not been altered.

BUT what you are missing is HOW MUCH?

Yes both a .223 and a .308 will be affected by brush or wind or whatever but the .308 will be affected LESS. If the .308 moves an inch and a .223 moved 5 inches the .308 would be a much better choice.

So obviously there is no &quot;magic&quot; brush buster but a heavier bullet will be effected LESS in any situation involving wind brush or whatever.

Now it is also obvious that one would want to take the cleanest shot possible but it would be easy to miss a twig or branch or wind gust between you and the deer. So in all these situations your best bet would be a heavier bullet.

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Thanks for all the replys,I kind of figured that their wasn't a magic bullet out there. But i thought just by chance their was.
I already was using a 180 grain,with no affect. It wasn't as though i could't see clearly,it was only about 4feet of thin brush. The deer was about 15 to 20 feet on the otherside of it,clean miss.
I did end up moving my blind to a different location ,with a clean shooting lane,but now see no deer,just have to watch my sent a little better.
Thanks again for all the replys
Tanner1

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Actually tests performed by one of the gun writers and reported on in a recent shooting times showed that heavier bullets do not always deflect less.The least affected bullet was a 338 bullet that weighed much less than some of the larger heavier bullets.The 308-180gr bullet performed just as good as some 45 caliber bullets.

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I saw the same test Stubble, they said a faster bullet is sometimes better than a slow one because it won't tumble as much. I still prefer to shoot through no brush at all.

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The move finally paid off. Took a small 8pt friday at 150yards, 180 grain win. got both lungs ,ran 70 yards dropped.

I'm so happy, thought i was goona get skunked this year.Sat the same stand 5 days not seeing anything, goes to prove patience is everything. Thanks again for all the tips.I'd post a pic but dont know how. Safe hunting & good luck Tanner1