I'll add my ditto to those above. The brush busting caliber is a myth. You can't hit brush and expect to hit the deer where you are aiming.

dont shoot thru brush it aint a good idea. like they said clear some shooting lanes

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Well, if you take a page out of the military's book you would go with the heaviest grain bullet your rifle shoots well.

While brush WILL effect it's path the heavier the bullet, the LESS the deflection.

One of the complaints about the 5.56 NATO in Vietnam was it's deflection in the jungle. 7.62 was far less effected by brush.

Also most police sharp shooters choose .308 when glass is a factor in taking a shot since .223 deflects so much.

So yes they will all deflect, but some will deflect more than others.

I would also add that it really is important where the brush is. If it is within a foot of the deer and it is just a little twig, you can shoot right through it and the deflection wont matter. If it is farther away from the deer than that, then you cannot shoot. A slight deflection 20 feet from the deer is a not only unethical in my mind, but also unsafe. I agree there is no brush buster out there, it is a total myth. Funny how many guys are chiming in with XXX grains, etc.

i use 165 grain. but i would say that 150 grain will work just fine. the heavier grain will make it through it

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GeoffM24, in a combat situation, I wouldn't care where I hit you. A hit is a hit since all wounds take up enemy resources. However, while hunting we are not on a battlefield. We as hunters have a responsibility to make clean, ethical kills on clearly identified animals. Magic brush bullets are indeed a myth. If they were true no one would ever miss with a muzzle loader or a shotgun slug.

There is no such thing as a brush busting bullet period.

It seems like you guys are trying to make a &quot;gray area&quot; into a black and white situation.

Will an outside force affect a bullets trajectory? Heck yeah. But that doesn't stop at brush that includes wind, rain etc. etc. So obviously a bullet affected by an outside force will not perform EXACTLY like it would have had it not been altered.

BUT what you are missing is HOW MUCH?

Yes both a .223 and a .308 will be affected by brush or wind or whatever but the .308 will be affected LESS. If the .308 moves an inch and a .223 moved 5 inches the .308 would be a much better choice.

So obviously there is no &quot;magic&quot; brush buster but a heavier bullet will be effected LESS in any situation involving wind brush or whatever.

Now it is also obvious that one would want to take the cleanest shot possible but it would be easy to miss a twig or branch or wind gust between you and the deer. So in all these situations your best bet would be a heavier bullet.

Thanks for all the replys,I kind of figured that their wasn't a magic bullet out there. But i thought just by chance their was.
I already was using a 180 grain,with no affect. It wasn't as though i could't see clearly,it was only about 4feet of thin brush. The deer was about 15 to 20 feet on the otherside of it,clean miss.
I did end up moving my blind to a different location ,with a clean shooting lane,but now see no deer,just have to watch my sent a little better.
Thanks again for all the replys
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Actually tests performed by one of the gun writers and reported on in a recent shooting times showed that heavier bullets do not always deflect less.The least affected bullet was a 338 bullet that weighed much less than some of the larger heavier bullets.The 308-180gr bullet performed just as good as some 45 caliber bullets.