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I checked out a piece of property yesterday that I haven't hunted since early last season. I walked off the road about 10 yards and found a SERIOUS rubline coming from a cutover into some pines. I followed it up onto a hill and down the other side towards a bedding area. I found a total of 22 rubs on different sized saplings within about an acre or two. Needless to say I hunted itall day todaybut no luck, it's too hot down here in Alabama. This is the question.....Does the number of rubs in an area give any clue as to how big the buck making the rubs might be? The trees are anywhere from as big around as a coke can and as small around as a 12 gauge shell. I've never in my life seenthat manyrubs in that small of an area.

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May-be not it might be a area that they just like to screw up some trees.

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You can tell more about the size of a deer by the size of a rub than the number of rubs made. I would tend to think that a bunch of rubs would indicate several bucks in the same general area. As to the size of the trees, big bucks will rub both small and large trees, but small bucks rub small trees. I would say; however, that a coke can size tree is getting to be a good size buck.

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I know there's at least one big buck in there by the size of some of the trees he's rubbing on, just wanted to know if there was any way I could tell if they were all rubs from one single buck or several different bucks. It's probably just one rubbing on whatever he can get his antlers around. Thanks

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Stick up a game camera.

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I have a slightly different question regarding them. I found one out behind my house while rabbit hunting and my dad says, though he isn't a deer hunter, that I should get out there and watch it because he'll visit that same spot every day. Is this true? I'm a newbie to deer hunting so I have a lot to learn. Please be gentle hehe.

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If you only found one rub it could mean that the buck is staking out his territory for the rut and will work the area harder when his does come into estrous, or it could be a mock rub that he may never visit again.

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Yeah I'm gonna have to put my camera out on this spot for sure here soon. Right now I've got my game camera trying to catcha giant 8 point rubbing a cedar tree on a different piece of property. Wish I had about 10 of those cameras.

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I watched a buck work a tree one morning that was as big around as my calf.He was just a spike, no browtines or anything.He had probably 9 inch spikes though and they curved out enough to let him get around the tree.I personally enjoy finding rubs, it tells me there deer in the area, but dont put much stock in them as far as gauging whats making them or if theyll even return to the sight in the daylight.

Put a trailcam out once in a thicket near a foodplot that was clear full of rubs, went through a roll of film in two days.There were I believe 13 different bucks that came through there in two days, every one of them between 11:00 at night and 3:00-4:00 in the morning.

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I think if you look at the average size tree they are rubbing you can get an idea of the size of the buck. If they are mostly 4-6in trees I think you got some nice buck running around. If they are 1-2 in trees probably 1 1/2 yr old. Also look how high on the tree the rubs are bigger bucks make taller rubs. With that many rubs I would think you have at least 3 buck using the trail. Hope this helps.

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I'm moving my camera today, I'll post any pictures I get.

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Metal Donnie.. to answer your question, no bucks do not visit their rubs every day. They will periodically check back to their old rubs. But it may be 3 or 4 days or a week later. Who knows. They wont be back every single day though count on that.

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i believe that the rubs on bigger trees are made by bigger bucks. i have seen rubs on trees 12-16 inches in diameter and larger. i have seen these bucks and they were indeed large wide racks.

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Well my camera did it's job where all the rubs are. I've got six different bucks..... one 8 point, two 6ers, three spikes. I've only got one doe out of all the buck pictures, pretty good odds. Here'sthe eight point, maybe I can put it to him here in the next month.

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The size of the tree; that is what matters.. The amount of rubs just could be marking off a boundary line. We have had rubs on trees that are as big as a man's thigh.. then, couple acres away we would have a row of saplings hit; none bigger than a wrist.

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Boy that's a big eyed buck!!:)Nice deer. Post any others you have.

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i fixed your pic to what it should look like soon. good luck on your 8 pointer, theres an 8 point and 4 point in my bush that ive been hoping to get since the season started. i only have 2 days left :( ill probably get them next year http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...untitled-2.jpg

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haha....I like that. Here's the biggest body buck on this particular piece of property. Should have been an 8 pointbutsome tines were broken off or either he just didn't grow a brow tine and a g2 like the other side.

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The other six point. I'd like to let him walk this year, but I know my buddies won't think twice about slamming him. It'd be a good first buck for a younger person or whatever, but imagine what he'd be next year, or two years. I can't get anybody that goes hunting with me to think about the future and how many nice rack bucks we'd have if they would help me manage these places. Maybe this one will survive another year.

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how big can an 8 pointers rack anda 4 pointers get in a year? i think im going to have to wait til next year to get them since i only have today and tomorrow to get them

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It's mostly genetics really. I think genetics controls mainly the structure of the rack and nutrition and age affect the size and mass of rack. How old do these deer look? Big bodies? Big heads? A deer's rack won't reach max potential until he's about 6 1/2years old. Mostbucksare killed when they're 2 1/2-3 1/2 years old andnever reach their max potential. If that eight point is a young one he has potential to get bigger depending on his genetics. That four pointcould be a six point next year or even bigger, or he might be a four point again. Try to guess the age of these deer and you'll know more about their potential for the future.