Tough decision as a land owner.....
#61
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ponce de Leon Florida USA
Posts: 10,079
RE: Tough decision as a land owner.....
Your land, your rules. If they can't comply with them then they have no rights to be hunting there. I have some first cousins that inherited several hundred acres of prime hunting land. They won't let anybody hunt there, they won't even consider leasing the land to me and as far as I know there has never been any problems within the family. While I am very family oriented, but there are a number of my cousins, etc that if I don't see them again I won't lose any sleep over it.
#62
RE: Tough decision as a land owner.....
I would have to say that if it was family and I really wanted to get something worked out, I would not leave a damn voice mail. I woulds get together with them, tell them your concerns and listen to their side of the story. If you get your point accross and they still do not respect your wishes then its time to take more drastic action. If we can't even work things out with family and friends, how will we ever work thing out with others?
#63
RE: Tough decision as a land owner.....
ORIGINAL: gamehunter1269
I would have told them that they are not welcome back after the first deer because you should not let them get away with such actions when you have already laid down the rules.
I would have told them that they are not welcome back after the first deer because you should not let them get away with such actions when you have already laid down the rules.
ORIGINAL: PA BOW HUNTER
before I give you my opinion let me first ask is it possible there is some miscommunication going on here?
before I give you my opinion let me first ask is it possible there is some miscommunication going on here?
Thats was a poor excuse, and I told him that. If anybody would meat it would be me. I informed him that if i hear of only ONE MORE doe/or button buck being killed in any of the coming years without my permission, that he WILL lose all hunting privelages there for life. No excuses. Don't even risk it.
#64
Spike
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Michigander in MA
Posts: 88
RE: Tough decision as a land owner.....
It seems that this topic has been beat to death, but I'll add my $0.02.
Ignoring the fact that they are family:
- they are engaging in illegal activities (or you suspect they are)
- they have ignored your explicit instructions (or seems that they have)
Despite what the arrangement has been for previous years, the land has a new owner with new rules. They, as guests to your property, need to abide by YOUR rules, or find somewhere else to hunt. You may have another concern of liability if you know or suspect thatpoaching is occuring on YOUR land and not reporting it. You couldwake up some morning to the knock of law enforcement officials atYOUR door! I didn't read the entire thread to see where this currently stands, but if it were me, I would sit down to have a calm, civilized discussion. Even write out a document stating your concerns. I would then offer a contract. The contract would spell out every and all details of others hunting on the land with the penalty for non-compliance. If they don't like the terms of the contract, they don't sign and they don't hunt. If they sign and you find them to breach the agreement, you now have legal precident to penalize them and no one has any sound excuse to be upset. I would even have it witnessed by someone not involved in the family (a friend who doesn't hunt maybe) and pay the fee to have it notarized. Thenthe matter of it being family bickering is eliminated and it'sa sound business arrangement. This may seem extreme but it appears that this situation is too that level. Good luck!
Ignoring the fact that they are family:
- they are engaging in illegal activities (or you suspect they are)
- they have ignored your explicit instructions (or seems that they have)
Despite what the arrangement has been for previous years, the land has a new owner with new rules. They, as guests to your property, need to abide by YOUR rules, or find somewhere else to hunt. You may have another concern of liability if you know or suspect thatpoaching is occuring on YOUR land and not reporting it. You couldwake up some morning to the knock of law enforcement officials atYOUR door! I didn't read the entire thread to see where this currently stands, but if it were me, I would sit down to have a calm, civilized discussion. Even write out a document stating your concerns. I would then offer a contract. The contract would spell out every and all details of others hunting on the land with the penalty for non-compliance. If they don't like the terms of the contract, they don't sign and they don't hunt. If they sign and you find them to breach the agreement, you now have legal precident to penalize them and no one has any sound excuse to be upset. I would even have it witnessed by someone not involved in the family (a friend who doesn't hunt maybe) and pay the fee to have it notarized. Thenthe matter of it being family bickering is eliminated and it'sa sound business arrangement. This may seem extreme but it appears that this situation is too that level. Good luck!