300 win mag
11-17-2006, 07:01 PM
#13
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: MN USA
Posts: 1,392
RE: 300 win mag
Very few big game calibers will allow you to shoot though "thick cover", unless you can find a clear opening. I would not recommend you shoot, unless you have clear view.
If you don't have a clear view, you may not be shooting at a deer or the right sex. Never shoot unless you have both and you can see what's behind the deer you're shooting at. There can be 2nd and 3rd deer behind you don't see and wound, if you do.
When I was 15 I hunted alone way back in the woods with my brothers .44 Ruger carbine. At short range this is powerful and you'd think a caliber that could "punch through" brush. I was stopped on a brushed in woods road watch a weasel go in and out of the snow for mice near my feet, when all of a sudden I heard very big snorts of a big buck about 30 yards in front of me. He'd moved crossing in front and he was trying to locate me picking up some scent, I imagine.
I saw his head and "imagined" where his shoulder and rib cage were among a thicket of aspen not much bigger than your thumb around. I proceded to empty the mag on that imagined chest. I waited to hear him crash down to the ground.
Low and behold he suddening took off running full tilt up the ridge and over out of sight. I went and look and followed his tracks without a trace of blood in the snow for 70 yards. I walked back to the thicket he was standing in when I shot. There were 5 "dead" aspen sappling broken off at just what would have been his chest high. Those .44 magnum slugs even at close range didn't stand a chance of making it through the even small trees to deliver any kind of blow to that deer.
It's a lesson I'll never forget. No matter the rifle caliber or shotgun with slugs, I won't shoot at a deer or Elk without a clear unobstructed shot.
If you don't have a clear view, you may not be shooting at a deer or the right sex. Never shoot unless you have both and you can see what's behind the deer you're shooting at. There can be 2nd and 3rd deer behind you don't see and wound, if you do.
When I was 15 I hunted alone way back in the woods with my brothers .44 Ruger carbine. At short range this is powerful and you'd think a caliber that could "punch through" brush. I was stopped on a brushed in woods road watch a weasel go in and out of the snow for mice near my feet, when all of a sudden I heard very big snorts of a big buck about 30 yards in front of me. He'd moved crossing in front and he was trying to locate me picking up some scent, I imagine.
I saw his head and "imagined" where his shoulder and rib cage were among a thicket of aspen not much bigger than your thumb around. I proceded to empty the mag on that imagined chest. I waited to hear him crash down to the ground.
Low and behold he suddening took off running full tilt up the ridge and over out of sight. I went and look and followed his tracks without a trace of blood in the snow for 70 yards. I walked back to the thicket he was standing in when I shot. There were 5 "dead" aspen sappling broken off at just what would have been his chest high. Those .44 magnum slugs even at close range didn't stand a chance of making it through the even small trees to deliver any kind of blow to that deer.
It's a lesson I'll never forget. No matter the rifle caliber or shotgun with slugs, I won't shoot at a deer or Elk without a clear unobstructed shot.
11-17-2006, 07:08 PM
#14
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Saskatchewan Canada
Posts: 6,921
RE: 300 win mag
ORIGINAL: mohunter09
Obviously you dont know much about deer, my buddy shoots a 22-250 it knocks down big deer on the spot, he!! a 22 would kill a deer. My .270 is plently power I shot my spike at 300 yards,and he didnt go 20 feet.
Obviously you dont know much about deer, my buddy shoots a 22-250 it knocks down big deer on the spot, he!! a 22 would kill a deer. My .270 is plently power I shot my spike at 300 yards,and he didnt go 20 feet.
. A well placed rock can kill deer, the point isn't what may but whathumanely harvest deer on a repeat basis.I am sure where the size of deer isn't much more than a dog one might be able to convince them self a well placed/proper bullet from a .22 cal would be doable but inmy area I think .25cal with 100 gr bullet should be the min. used. 300lbs deer are common and deserve a little more consideration then awe its just a jumper. Hey what doI knowknock yourself out witha .22cal.
11-17-2006, 08:44 PM
#15
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location:
Posts: 1,079
RE: 300 win mag
ORIGINAL: MinnFinn
Very few big game calibers will allow you to shoot though "thick cover", unless you can find a clear opening. I would not recommend you shoot, unless you have clear view.
If you don't have a clear view, you may not be shooting at a deer or the right sex. Never shoot unless you have both and you can see what's behind the deer you're shooting at. There can be 2nd and 3rd deer behind you don't see and wound, if you do.
When I was 15 I hunted alone way back in the woods with my brothers .44 Ruger carbine. At short range this is powerful and you'd think a caliber that could "punch through" brush. I was stopped on a brushed in woods road watch a weasel go in and out of the snow for mice near my feet, when all of a sudden I heard very big snorts of a big buck about 30 yards in front of me. He'd moved crossing in front and he was trying to locate me picking up some scent, I imagine.
I saw his head and "imagined" where his shoulder and rib cage were among a thicket of aspen not much bigger than your thumb around. I proceded to empty the mag on that imagined chest. I waited to hear him crash down to the ground.
Low and behold he suddening took off running full tilt up the ridge and over out of sight. I went and look and followed his tracks without a trace of blood in the snow for 70 yards. I walked back to the thicket he was standing in when I shot. There were 5 "dead" aspen sappling broken off at just what would have been his chest high. Those .44 magnum slugs even at close range didn't stand a chance of making it through the even small trees to deliver any kind of blow to that deer.
It's a lesson I'll never forget. No matter the rifle caliber or shotgun with slugs, I won't shoot at a deer or Elk without a clear unobstructed shot.
Very few big game calibers will allow you to shoot though "thick cover", unless you can find a clear opening. I would not recommend you shoot, unless you have clear view.
If you don't have a clear view, you may not be shooting at a deer or the right sex. Never shoot unless you have both and you can see what's behind the deer you're shooting at. There can be 2nd and 3rd deer behind you don't see and wound, if you do.
When I was 15 I hunted alone way back in the woods with my brothers .44 Ruger carbine. At short range this is powerful and you'd think a caliber that could "punch through" brush. I was stopped on a brushed in woods road watch a weasel go in and out of the snow for mice near my feet, when all of a sudden I heard very big snorts of a big buck about 30 yards in front of me. He'd moved crossing in front and he was trying to locate me picking up some scent, I imagine.
I saw his head and "imagined" where his shoulder and rib cage were among a thicket of aspen not much bigger than your thumb around. I proceded to empty the mag on that imagined chest. I waited to hear him crash down to the ground.
Low and behold he suddening took off running full tilt up the ridge and over out of sight. I went and look and followed his tracks without a trace of blood in the snow for 70 yards. I walked back to the thicket he was standing in when I shot. There were 5 "dead" aspen sappling broken off at just what would have been his chest high. Those .44 magnum slugs even at close range didn't stand a chance of making it through the even small trees to deliver any kind of blow to that deer.
It's a lesson I'll never forget. No matter the rifle caliber or shotgun with slugs, I won't shoot at a deer or Elk without a clear unobstructed shot.
11-18-2006, 10:54 AM
#16
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,695
RE: 300 win mag
ORIGINAL: skeeter 7MM
WOWsuch wisdom. Personally I think anyone who uses a .22 cal for deer doesn't really have the right to sayothers don'tknow much about deer hunting. A well placed rock can kill deer, the point isn't what may but whathumanely harvest deer on a repeat basis.I am sure where the size of deer isn't much more than a dog one might be able to convince them self a well placed/proper bullet from a .22 cal would be doable but inmy area I think .25cal with 100 gr bullet should be the min. used. 300lbs deer are common and deserve a little more consideration then awe its just a jumper. Hey what doI knowknock yourself out witha .22cal.
ORIGINAL: mohunter09
Obviously you dont know much about deer, my buddy shoots a 22-250 it knocks down big deer on the spot, he!! a 22 would kill a deer. My .270 is plently power I shot my spike at 300 yards,and he didnt go 20 feet.
Obviously you dont know much about deer, my buddy shoots a 22-250 it knocks down big deer on the spot, he!! a 22 would kill a deer. My .270 is plently power I shot my spike at 300 yards,and he didnt go 20 feet.
. A well placed rock can kill deer, the point isn't what may but whathumanely harvest deer on a repeat basis.I am sure where the size of deer isn't much more than a dog one might be able to convince them self a well placed/proper bullet from a .22 cal would be doable but inmy area I think .25cal with 100 gr bullet should be the min. used. 300lbs deer are common and deserve a little more consideration then awe its just a jumper. Hey what doI knowknock yourself out witha .22cal.
hehehehehe.
I kill deer and hogs on a regular basis with a little 'ol .22hornet.
Some people actually know how to hunt.
This was last years buck, dropped him in his tracks with my hornet.
11-18-2006, 05:32 PM
#18
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location:
Posts: 1,785
RE: 300 win mag
I hunt in similar conditions and have a variety of calibers in my safe to choose from. My choice for the conditions you describe is my Marlin 336 30-30 topped with a Leupold VariX II 3-9x40 loaded with Hornady LeverEvolutions. I have killed a buck and two does this year already with this set up.
11-18-2006, 06:05 PM
#19
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: mississippi by way of Florida
Posts: 357
RE: 300 win mag
There is no such thing as a brush busting gun or caliber.
If you are shooting through heavy brush and branches you are asking for problems.
I don't care if you are shooting a 45-70 or a 300 winmag, if you are shooting where you "think" the deer is, at best you are immature and at worst you are dangerous.
You should only take clear, ethical shots. To do less is not only unacceptable, it is dangerous.
Hank
If you are shooting through heavy brush and branches you are asking for problems.
I don't care if you are shooting a 45-70 or a 300 winmag, if you are shooting where you "think" the deer is, at best you are immature and at worst you are dangerous.
You should only take clear, ethical shots. To do less is not only unacceptable, it is dangerous.
Hank
11-22-2006, 05:38 PM
#20
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Saskatchewan Canada
Posts: 6,921
RE: 300 win mag
hehehehehe.
I kill deer and hogs on a regular basis with a little 'ol .22hornet.
Some people actually know how to hunt.
This was last years buck, dropped him in his tracks with my hornet
I kill deer and hogs on a regular basis with a little 'ol .22hornet.
Some people actually know how to hunt.
This was last years buck, dropped him in his tracks with my hornet