PVC Pipe boxstand??
 

Hey guy/gals I have been doing some searching online about making a pvc pipe box stand but have found nothing. First of all let me explain why I started this in the first place. I have a great hunting spot but it is at the back side of an older cutover.. The only way to get to it is some pretty hard 4 wheeler riding, goin through skidder ruts, tree stumps brush etc. No way in the world you could drive a truck back there, but I want a box stand back there! I started to buy a tripod stand and cart it back there but I just want more room and protection from rain. So then I thought hummm why not build a prototype with PVC pipe, then tear it back apart and haul it back there piece by peice and put it back up!!! I made up a drawing and looked like it could work, I decided to use 3" sch 40 pipe for the frame/floor and 2" for braces. I am going to have a A shaped roof I will probably put a tarp over and a hinged plywood floor, so I can fold it in half while hauling it back there, then run some wood screw into the pipe o hold it in place. Then paint it and wrap tarp or burlap around the box part of it. As far as it blowing over, I have a nearby tree I was going to lash it too or I thought of maybe using guy wires like they do in texas. Am I crazy or do you think this is a good idea??? If it works is any body intersested in the plans and parts list? Ha all my friends say I am just gonna bust my a$$ trying to do this. ITs going to be 4'x5' box, about 6'6" to the top of roof and about 11/12' to the bottom floor.
Whats your 2 cents??
Clint

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Good idea in theory! But how does the PVC stand up to the cold. I would hate to be 12' in the air and have one of the legs snap like a twig. Or are you just using the PVC for the top?

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Yea good thinking! Good thing is that I hunt in south Arkansas so it doesnt get down in the teens very often. More like 40's maybe 30s in Dec. Of course there are times when it gets cold cold but on those mornings I have a honey hole I tend to go too on cold snaps. This is going to be a secondary spot for now. I called a plumbing supply place and asked how the PVC will hold up to sunlight and things like that, he said if I spray painted the stand it would last a long long time.

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OH BTW, its the whole stand, ladder and all.

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I looked at your profile and it didn't say where you were from. Here in MB (CAN) it gets colder than a witches tit, -40 is not unheard of during the rifle season..... the norm being about -20, Thats why I thought of PVC as breaking. Good luck and I hope it works out, don't know why it wouldn't. Oh ya one more thing..... what about sound.... any movement and it might sound like musical instrument?:eek:

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i want to see a picture

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I am going to buy some more material today and work on it more this weekend. I will try to get some pics posted. I thought if it works out I could sell the plans on Ebay!!! I will surely be rich huh, lol.

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I would use schedule 40 4 inch if you do it. Thats what my potato gun uses for the chamber, if it will hold up to that, it should hold you up. BTW, with all that plumbing, may as well put a urinal in it that drains into the ground. :)

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Why not build a platform from wood something that you know will hold up and then use smaller PVC for the walls and roof? I would feel much safer on something like that versus plastic.

I like the plumbing idea though;)

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sounds sqeeeeeky........

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I like the pluming idea as well....but im not sure you would want to let it just flow out the bottom of the stand!!!!! the deer will smell it from a mile away.....maybe good??? maybe bad???

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I saw Lowes is selling camo plywood now........build your box bling, no paint required

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I was assuming he was going to bury the corner posts (pipes) in the ground. No smell, no mess.....I would make it for #1 only.....or the deer might see you running a snake to clear the lines.:D

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Holy Crap!!! When I'm looking for tips on cold weather gear i'll be sure to ask you.

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If it is that big inside, just get a drywall bucket with lid and do your biz in that. Snap the lid tight and no worries. You could even put some rv toilet deodorizer in there and it would last long enough that you wouldn't have to empty it every day.
I'm not sure the pipe is gonna be ridgid enough. Go to a home center and lift a 12' length and see how much deflection it has. I think if abs or pvc pipe was good for building things with, we would be living in pipe houses.

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see now thats thinking. thats what im gonna do to finish my stand off this year

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pvc is going to be noisy and with the changes in temps it will be very unstable. now if you still want to try it you could always fill the pvc posts with sakrete to strengthen it but still id say its a risky deal. why not just build a tree house style blind. but i have found that by the time you factor cost and time its easier and cheaper to by a blind or stand. there are alot of cost affective box blinds on the market that are roomy

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You can buy a cheap ladder stand that will be more stable than anything you could cobble from PVC for $50 , why risk your life ?

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I actually added a urinal to my permanent box stand this summer. I started with a u shaped3 or 4" pvc sewer cap that has a rubber gasket on it and kept adding pieces until it necked down to take 1" pipe. I ran the 1" down into a coffee can that I placed three feet underground. I then used some putty to seal the joint between the pipe and the coffee can. Next I covered the hole and painted the pvc camoflage.

On the top side, I used banding to hold the urinal in place. I chose the banding so I could swivel the urinal out of the way when not in use. It looks like is should be a pretty slick set up and almost scent free.

Brian

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Well I would love to make it outta wood, but I dont think I could haul all that stuff back there on the back of a 4 wheeler, and then assemble it all. The best part about the PVC idea is that it can be built then packed in somewhere that you cant drive too, them assemble it and have an enclosed stand. I am going to cement everything once I get it to the final place and probably saccrete the legs into the ground. I bought the end caps allready that have the slots for bolts. I have added it up too and would be alot better off just buying a ladder stand I know, but I am kinda stubborn so I wanna build it just to see if it will work. I built the floor allready and it is plenty strong enough with 3" pipe. I like the urinal idea. All I gotta do is add one y-fitting inline with one of the corner pipes and add a screw lid to it and make sure it has a way to filter into the ground. I saw a 3" end cap that is for drainage I could use for that.

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I don't think it would work b/c it would squeek way too much. We used it to enclose a few duck blinds. It squeeks way too much for a deer stand. Not to mention although PVC is pretty strong, it would sway like crap in the wind.

I think ya should stick to wood or some sort of metal. Just my $0.02

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I saw a post on this once before. I didn't like it then and still don't. For one you said you are going to cement it and you want to knock it down when your done. You cant take it apart if it's glued.

This stuff has one purpose and should be usedfor plumbing only. Plus all the joints will cost you much more than you think.

If it was a good idea then tree stand manufactures would already be using it.

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I'm in the process of making a duck blind out of PVC pipe and fittings. The entire project cost me around $50 (with paint and glue). I like it because it doesn't weigh much and if I need to move it to the other side of the pond I can do so by myself. As for the squeaking?? I'm sure it would if I hadn't glued the joints well.

I would neveruse it for deer hunting, because it does sway with the wind blows.

and that's my 2 cents ;)

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Yea I can see the swaying thing being a pretty big issue. guess I will have to scrap the idea and buy a tripod with a top

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I'd take a dozier and make a road to the back and put up a good stand. All those fittings, etcare going to be expensive and I don't think it will be sturdy enough. At least get a good tall metal ladder stand and use a gunbrella.

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I honestly don't think it would be a good idea to use pvc for anything structural, like your ladder or floor supports. Now, if you were to use it for support posts to hang burlap on, then I think it would be fine. I don't think I would feel very comfortable sitting in a pvc stand. Just my $.02

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If ya wernt too high off the ground,and used some big aggie sized pvc it prob would work,but that would be costly,for ex. 4 inch shed 40 pvc.I dont even know what size ,4 or 5 inch,I aint no plumber.

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Sounds like a better idea to me. I have a similar deal that you have as far as getting to it hauling materials etc..... I stuck a tripod out there and whalla - done deal. I didnt' get a top for it. If it rains I just get wet and trust my raingear.[8D] By the time you're all done it will probably be cheaper in the long run.

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Sounds like a great idea. Here's a suggestion. If your terrain is anything like where I live, you will have a hard time finding a level spot to put it. So, whatever size pvc you decide on for the legs, get some 3' or so lengths of the next size larger to sleeve over the legs. Drill some holes through all the way through them at 1" to 2" intervals and insert a pin so you can adjust the leg length to fit the terrain.

Personally though, I'd just build the box, camo it up real good, and let it sit on the ground. No need for a floor. A lot easier to set up and not as much to haul in to your location. Should still give you a good hide. Of course, maybe you need the height to have a good view of your hunting area.

Anyway, good luck, and I want to see a picture of the finished product also.

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if u use pvc ur gonna want to brace it every couple feet or its goin to sway really bad. also i would use solid pvc instead of the foam core, its heavier and doesnt flex as much.

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I built one 3 years ago. It stood up to the cold very well. BUT not the wind!!!
It was also noisey as the PVC was always making creaking sounds.
In the end, it got blown over and destroyed by only 30+mph wind.

I spent over $300 on the stand and countless hours... when I could have bought a tripod for less $$$ and energy.

I'll try to find some pictures.

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i think it is sch 80? the city departments use it for your water supply i worked with it better it is heavy i dont think it would bent much all sounds good but i would make the legs from something else