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I hunt family owned woods. They let this one guy go along to aid his son in the hunt since hashandicap. Myselfand parents thought it was just his son that was going to hunt. This guy is hunting as well. I saw him carry a gun with him. He has been out there by himself. I asked are you going to let this guy hunt again this year.The said why not. There is two woods one I hunt about 24 acres the one they hunt 10. There is about 170 acres of farm land as well. I said that is to many people hunting. They said you want it all for yourself. True but three people to many. It would scare the deer away. I wouldnt let him hunt. What should I do?

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Not your woods , not your decision . They apparently already know that the Dad hunts alone sometimes , and have given him permission to do so . Perhaps you should get with the guy and work out a plan of use and cooperate with each other. Remember , every deer they have go around them will very likely go right toward you . The rule of thumb is usually 20 acres per hunter , but his son isn't likely to do much still hunting from the sound of it , and it's the hunter the deer don't spot who drags one out .

How many others are hunting the same woods that you don't even know about ? The answer might surprise you . Last year I hunted only my 5 acre back yard and took 2 deer and nearly got 3 more . It isn't always about how many people it is , it's usually more a matter of the pressure that the deer perceive versus what draws them there . Make what they want available at the right time and the three of you working the same farm shouldn't be an issue .

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Unless the 170 acres of farmland is flat as a pancake and totally lacking cover, there are likely some nice spots to hunt there as well.

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I don't buy into the whole "too many people" idea. 3 of us hunt my dads 40 acres. Only 7 acres is timber, the rest is CRP and fence rows.None of us hunt the timber.We killed 6 deer there last season, and could have killed alot more. We were trying to let the young ones grow a little. My uncle took a 140 class 10 pointer, it was with a shotgun, the rest were bow kills. Main thing is, let the stands rest, play the wind, and don't enter the bedding area.

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I think that there are a lot of variables to take into consideration in terms of hunters to acreage ratio. My 19 acres is entirely wooded (with lots of underbrush in some spots) and hilly. I have two stand sites at opposite corners of the property and its not a problem at all for shotgun season even when much of the cover is gone. I could easily put in a 3rd stand during early bow season when the brush is thick and 100 yards seems like a long walk.

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Anyone get a deer last year ??? How many deer do you see.? 3 dont seem like to many

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Cardeer,
I got myself a deer they almost got one. I have no idea how many deer I saw I know saw deer about every time I went out.

The guy said his son would be the only one hunting. He is hunting as well. Thats what made me mad. The season is months away we will see if they are going to be still hunting. I talked with the kid that has a handicap he said they are looking for other place to hunt.

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I don't want this to sound bad, but come on, the kid is handicapped. Do you really want to kick them out of a place to hunt? I'm sure that his dad likes to "hunt" once in awhile, too. My kids aren't handicapped, but when I take them fishing, very little of my time is spent fishing. It's spent tending to them and their needs.I can only image how mucheffort that his dad id putting out so his son can enjoy time in the field.Like I said, I don't want to sound like a jerk, but if they aren't causing you problems with poaching, spooking deer, etc.....IMO, let them be.

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Not your woods , not your decision


Thank you!!!!!!

So many people want to control everything wether they own it or not. Belive if every hunter had it that way the rest of us would have no place to hunt. I have been putting up with so many people posting land they don't own and have no business posting as the property owner has not given them permission to and they are out of town owners.Thank god for honest hard working thoughtful land owners. We would all be screwed with-out them!!

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Mike,

You have just clearly pointed out one of the several drawbacks to the current deer hunting fad.

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Sounds like SOME of my members. www.lazyshuntclub.org

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deerhunter1224, hey look at your situation as a blessing and not a curse after all reality is perception. You are perceiving that there will be too many people in the woods, hurt your time hunting, they will get the big one and so on.

Evidently there is a reason these other hunters are there even if it is to teach you something about yourself. You mentioned that you talked to the young man in the wheel chair, "the kid with the handicap."

Perhaps you feel handicapped with having other people in the same woods you are in... Do the right thing! Ask the father if you could take "the handicap kid" in yourself, embrace the problem and turn it into a blessing.

If the father allows you to take the son into the woods then there will be just two people in your woods.

After all wouldn't you "rather have a bad day in the woods than a good day at work?"

Take the high road and do the right thing if it's in you...

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Thank goodness you have semi private land to hunt. I have to hunt public land. In addition to trying to pattern the deer, I have to pattern other hunters movements as well.

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The kid I dont really care about since he is handicaped but the guy said his son would be the only one hunting. Thats what he told my dad. I view if you tell the land owner his son will be the only one hunting and he hunts as well. I view that hunter as unethical hunter. Yes I am so glad I hunt family owned land. We have had guys hunt woods in past they feel they dont have to ask each year.

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I hunt where a ex-co-worker owns about 40 acres. He has let me hunt there for the last 4 years and I never really know how much of that he is going to let me use for free. One year he needed money and I didn't have any so he leased his land and let me use 200 yards (literally) at then edge of it. I shot my first buck that year it was a spike. Last year he had to barter his land for a guy to fix his roof and he let me hunt in his back yard on a rock cliff over looking ahill that went down to a river...I shot my first deer with a bow...a 6 pt. I think its what you make of it, I would still rather go to his land then have to go where there is more pressure on public land. Plus he let's me take 1 new person each year who has never been hunting and enjoy that whole process with them. I never argue when he says I can only hunt here or there and I share the meat when I get one. I think we all would love to have a bunch of land to ourselves but can you imagine the joy you would feel if you help this kid get his first deer? This year because I still have a good relationship with this guy I am taking my daughter on her first hunting experience in the fall. I think you still have a pretty good set up and can still get deer along with helping some other folks. I think if you do that you will feel more fulfilled in your hunting this year and God has a way of blessing us when we help others.:)

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Dude, the simple fact of the matter is that the people who own the land know he hunts it now, and don't care. Getting mad and raising a stink about it might get you kicked off the land.

I understand the guy said he would 'only help his son hunt', but now you've told the landowners, and they don't care. Done. No more discussion. You have no rights in this situation.

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I totally agree...at least you have a place to hunt without going to public land. You may want to consider helping out the kid and his Dad to get their deer. It would definitely make you feel good. I taught my neice and nephew to hunt and it makes me feel great when they harvest a nice deer.

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I agree - and if there is a good heard in there use his presence to your advantage - find out where he is heading in and setup downstream of the run and have him do the work - since you have permission and I assume mom and dad are not yours.

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as long as the rule if its brown its down is not being used you should be ok but if you have everyone shooting anything then it will get scraped clean

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Absolutely correct.

It seems rather immature of you (no matter what you age is) to have the stance you do on this. Offer to help the father and the son with whatever you can. You never know what you may gain by putting the right foot forward. One thing you'll definately gain is a good feeling. good luck

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Another positive is that, if you are a small game hunter as well, you may also have access to another 170 acres worth of fence rows and grassland waterways for rabbits and quail. Don't rock the boat.

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One last note, look at them as a unit or team. Invariably the father isn't going to stray to far from the son who is in the wheel chair, hence, they will be seeing the same deer, in the same area at the same time, and shooting at the same deer.

If you were with someone you loved and they wanted an ice cream, wouldn't youeat one? If, you went fishing with someone wouldn't you take a fishing pole?

I encourage you to walk a mile in his moccasins, in this case ride a mile in his wheelchair... maybe even go the extra mile and help the father drag the deer out. Be a hero and not a zero.

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Okay I can see many of you dont really agree with me. I have helped out guys that have hunted my land in the past. Yes I lost a days worth of hunting. I didnt care at all. All I am saying is. The guy asked if his son could hunt not him he didnt ask if he could hunt. The kid can walk just not that well. If the dad wants to go along sit by his son fine by me. The son is the only one that can kill the deer. You get to many people there goes the quanity and quality of deer.

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That's fine, man. We're saying you have to get over it. There is no other option.

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Not your land , not your call .
Keep rocking the boat and you may find yourself looking for somewhere else to hunt from now on . Trying to fuss over a guy hunting without his wheelchair bound kid only makes you look like a jerk , your family obviously knows he does it and doesn't care . The guy has a lot bigger problems than hunting access , and your family has decided to be nice to him , and I don't blame them one bit . Frankly , I think you're being a dick about it , and very childish . Get your own land and you can control it any way you want , but you have zero right to decide what happens on someone else's .

Get over it .

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As for an adoption.

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Just think of it like this. If the kid wasnt handicaped he might be out there every weekend. Its not like him and his dad are hunting in 2 diff stands. Wether its just the dad or the both of them 1 shot is being fired.

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Sheesh! I really feel for you dude! Lets see, free, private land to hunt, seeing deer every hunt, and they didn't even kill a deer for sure last season! If I were you, I'd quit in protest!
Really, get over it, and count your blessings!

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1. Be greatful that you canWALK to your stand.
2. Be greatful that you have a free place to hunt any time you would like.
3. Be greatful that you havefolks that are setting afine example of generosity and kindness to others, maybe less fortunate.
4. Take note and learn, sounds to me like you have some good examples, save yourself some grief.
5.Pitch in and help, you might find yourself some new hunting buddies.
Larry

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"Thy Burdens Are greater Than Mine" (Hank Williams) is now playing softly in the background.