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i was talken to some girl who never seen a deer in the wild let alone hunt..anyways shes telling me that when i shoot a deer im breaking up a family...i explained that at a certain age a fawn goes off on their own and so on...she then explained to me that if i left a deer in one palce after i shot it the other deer will come and feel sorry for it.....my dad shot a deer and it took him two days to find it and there wasnt one other print in the area..plus the deer are probally smart enough to realize the coyotes will be there and not to go back...just wonderin about your guys input

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Sounds like she has been watching Bambi too many times.........

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Some people just haven't had the privilege of hunting and don't understand what it's all about. Tell her you're doing the majority of the deer a favor by eliminating competition fora limited supply of food sources. Ask her if she'd rather see deer die a slow death from starvation, cold,getting hit by cars, etc. as opposed to a well placed shot through the lungs or heart. If that doesn't work, cook her up a nice venison steak, that'll change her mind.

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Stay away from her,she is the enemy

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Future PETA member!

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dump her

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DITTO!!!

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I'd say Reb was right on target , she thinks they have feelings and has demonstrated that she knows nothing of deer family dynamics . If you're not trying to date her either educate her or move on .

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im not tryin to date her...tryed educating her she wouldnt listen so now i just dont talk to her

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Smart Duck,very smart.

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Keep talking to her, tell her the facts, she may come around. It doesn't sound like shes an all out anti, more like shes on the fence, if we informed all those people we would be way ahead of the game and peta wouldn't stand a chance.

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Deer have affects. Their brains arent that different. What they probably do not have, are the understanding for, andthe capacity to dothe advanced interpretations of the incoming perceptions thatwe can.This does not mean that they comprehend the familything, like we do, and they sure arent likley to share our beliefs of what is right and wrong.
Its no coincidence that so much of medical research is made on rats and ferrets. Even so when psychofarmaceutical drugs are conerned.Should this mean that we should not hunt them. Well not in my opinion anyway.

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duckhunter81891,

Is this lady friend of yours a Yankee?

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lol

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Duckhunter ask her how she fells when somebody is driveing down the road and a deer runs out and that person trys to miss it and hits a tree and dies. Hunters keep the deer population down. the deer can break up humans familys to.

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Yea the only animals ive ever seen stick around a shot animal definently didnt stay cuz they felt bad. Ive only seen two fawns stay by a doe i shot a while back because they didnt know any better. The only other animal was a calf elk. I shot a cow just before dark and didnt find her before dark. came back the next mornin and found her in her bed the calf stuck around for most the night(probably because it thought the cow was still alive) and was gone in the mornin. She sounds like a hippie im sure she smokes pot and preaches to the trees too.

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TDWW it does not mater if she is a yankee although she is....i know southern girls that have the same feelings....thanks for the suggestions on what to tell and try to educate her..hopefully itll work

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I know that I as a human have "feelings" and when I am "feeling" hungry I sure do love to stop it by eating some venison! If they have feelings and a family situation then why does the buck not hang around? If one of the offsprings happens to be a male then by the time the first rut comes around he is pushed out of the "family".

And it doesn't matter what part of the country she is from. TDWW is just trying to yank your chain as he does everyone north of the Mason Dixion line. He has issues. Just laugh and pay him no mind.

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Ask her; where did she get that (mis)information?

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i haveshot a little buck whowas feeding with a doe. I shot the buck (with a crossbow), he ran about 10 yards and dropped. Well, the doe started to run(bc she saw him run), but then she stopped. Im in the stand thinking"i know she isnt coming back", well...whatdid she do...she came back. She walked over to herdead friend, sniffed it once or twice, and then casually walked back over to thefood. I mean this is only one example,all deer behave differently, but it is true about the dynamics of deer families, or the lack there of. Tell her to go hunting or do some researchfirst and then make assumptions

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late last october i went out to my cabin and seen a dead buck laying across the river. i went to the truck to get some binocs and when i got back to glass the dead dear i spotted another buck behind it about 75yds or so. I watched the other buck come up on the dead buck, stared at it for few minutes, tried to fight it, stared at it some more, tried to fight it again. He was not feeling sorry at all. deer do not feel sorry for their dead friends, and i doubt they call them friends. i did have a fawn come back to the spot where i shot her mother once, dont think that was because she was feeling bad, more confused than anything else.

back to the dead buck, ended up being a bad bow kill with a less than ambitious traker. Dont know how long it was there but was to ripe for the taking by the time i found it.

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i told her the only way to experience amazing experiences is to go hunting and educate herself and she told me well thatll never happen and bacically told me to p*** off so m done i told her all i could tryin to help her but she just wont listen

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I hear the same things in my school...I just tell them they shoudn't eat meat cause those cows have familys alsolol

-Joe

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I can't see where a deer or any other animals have true feelings as humans describe them. If they do then they must know right from wrong. If they know that then they surly can tell the difference between good and evil. If they can tell that difference then instead of using my rifle I should hunt with my Bible and get a few of em' saved before the rapture comes and were all judged by the Almighty. Those who do not know my Lord God will not find themselves in his favor. If this is the case I pity all the deer, cows, crows, ants, hippies, and other such animals that are distend for hell. Alleluia, Amen.

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Hey Duck, tell that dame to smoke your meat whistle & call it a day:D

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lol Garminator

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I feel complelled to tell you a hunting story which occurred about three years ago. It was a cold December morning and I was gun hunting in the late rifle season in the second week of the Maryland gun season. Around 7:45, I saw a large doe that was walking up a draw with three other medium-sized doe. The only shot that presented itself was on one of the two, smaller-bodied does. I centered my crosshairs, and BOOM. I killed her on the spot. The large doe and the other yearling bounded off within seconds. After about a minute, the older doe (presumably the mother) came back. She brought flowers and was wearing a black headdress. She curled up next to the expired deer, curled up in the fetal position, and began bawling.

If you believe this, you should leave this site immediately. For the rest of you. Happy April 27th Fools Day. ;)

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Alot of anti's up here =\ Some people can't tell the difference between a deer and a moose (no joke),nor do they know much of anything about nature, yet they can preech how hunting is cruel and call it bloodsport etc. as theytake a big bite out of a roast beefsandwitch.Some people can be so ignorant. Sometimes I find myself at a loss of what to say due to the shallow mindedness and ignorance of some people. It's like arguing with a 4 year old...you can't win...even if you're right, your wrong...

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There is a definition in the affect school of psychotherapy regarding feelings, that Iwould like to sharehere. Not that I claim this the only way of looking at the subject.

affects= the biological response (stressreaction, buzzing in the tummy)
feeling= when one can identifie and name the sensation ( Im scared)
emotion= when one understands the cause of the sensation (the lion might eat me)

Would it be OK with you folks if I said, that deer have affects, and maybe emotionsbutcertanly not feelings, in this definition. They spook, so they get into stress mode and run. But they probably dont tell themselves that they are affraid. Emotions, maybe they comprehend that they feel the way they do, because the big bad wolf is after them.

What are felings good for:
They show how important something is.
They make us act with the proper haste.
They communicate to others.
(like thoughts, they are not always correct)

Does your deer also flash a large white area in the rear when they flee? Would a deer always evaluate the situation completely before it runs away? Does a scared deer run faster than a neutral one?

I still say that deer musthave emotional responsesof sorts, or they would not have a limbic system in the brain,and they would not have behaved in such ways as they do. Given the importance of emotions for successful adaptation the scales tips that way, in my opinion.

But this have nothing to do with right or wrong. There is no connection between feelings and being right, having rights. Nor does this mean that we are obliged to feel sorry for deer, when we hunt them. We cannot know how a deer percieves the world. There is no evidence for deer feeling grief when losing a family member. So keep hunting the deer whatever their feelings may be. I will.