I've about had it!!
#21
I have never run deer with dogs but I run hogs a fair bit. I support both because I do not want to see any type of hunting disappear. That is what the anti's are all about. Get a little nible here, make a little headway over there and before you know it we have all lost more then we can recover.
The difference between chasing hogs and chasing deer is we normally have the woods to ourselves when it is time to catch a hog. If the dogs get on one and cross a fence it is not messing up anyone elses hunt. The trouble with deer dogs is if they venture off of your place they are probably messing up someone elses hunt. This fact makes it easy for us to fight with each other. A little bit of commen sense and tolerance will sure go a long way.....
-john
The difference between chasing hogs and chasing deer is we normally have the woods to ourselves when it is time to catch a hog. If the dogs get on one and cross a fence it is not messing up anyone elses hunt. The trouble with deer dogs is if they venture off of your place they are probably messing up someone elses hunt. This fact makes it easy for us to fight with each other. A little bit of commen sense and tolerance will sure go a long way.....
-john
#22
Boone & Crockett
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From: Ponce de Leon Florida USA
I talked to a couple of men I know this weekend about joining their dog hunting club next year. Not but $500 and it will be a great alternative to sitting in a dang tree in the morning. What's so dang fair or ethical about sitting in a tree with a rifle and scope you can hit a quarter with at 100 yards and shooting a deer that either out looking for breakfast or trying to find his true love? Same thing for bows, in a tree with camo, scent killer, hunting the wind and slinging an arrow that if they practice enough, may hit true and kill a deer.......
#23
If running dogs is unfair, then all hunting is unfair.
#24
There have been many valid points on this thread! I think that its great that we have done it without being offensive to each other too! The biggest point is that the Anti's want HUNTING banned!
They don't want baiting, hunting with dogs, bows, rifles, or handguns banned! They want HUNTING banned! Lets not ever help them knock us off, one at a time!
I won't down anyone's hunting methods, as long as they are legal!
To me, if itsLEGAL, YOUhave a CHOICE, if its ILLEGAL, YOUDON'T have a CHOICE!
They don't want baiting, hunting with dogs, bows, rifles, or handguns banned! They want HUNTING banned! Lets not ever help them knock us off, one at a time!
I won't down anyone's hunting methods, as long as they are legal!
To me, if itsLEGAL, YOUhave a CHOICE, if its ILLEGAL, YOUDON'T have a CHOICE!
#25
JagMag is on a good current run of making sense, especially here. I think that we could consider his good comments to be a fitting close to a good thread. But somehow i suspect that other folks may think differently...
#26
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From: the Great Plains
ORIGINAL: jcchartboy
Sorry...you may have a valid point in the end....but if you need to make this statement to justify it....I'll have skip on this one.
If running dogs is unfair, then all hunting is unfair.
I certainly don't have to make that statementto make my point. If youwould like, reread my post and ignore that statement, and I bet youwould find that my pointis still very clear. Also, you will see if you read just a bit further on from that point that Iactually anwered my own argument by saying, "of course," we all know that hunting is not unfair.
Thanks, everyone, for all the replies.
#27
Good Post, I would like to try hunting deer with a dog at least once. I think if it's legal in your area do it. I do however have a question do they cross onto another hunters ground often?
We hunt coon and coyote with dog's they all have tracking collars, so we can generally cut them off at roads surrounding sections if we need.I just wonder if that happens with dog hunting.
I guess I don't know how deer doghunting works. It's not legal in Iowa, so I've never experienced it.
Imo the only argument I could see anyone even having about dog hunting is crossing onto another landowner. Which I believe we all could respect that.
I would be interested in a brief description on how it works Mike, just for personal knowledge.
We hunt coon and coyote with dog's they all have tracking collars, so we can generally cut them off at roads surrounding sections if we need.I just wonder if that happens with dog hunting.
I guess I don't know how deer doghunting works. It's not legal in Iowa, so I've never experienced it.
Imo the only argument I could see anyone even having about dog hunting is crossing onto another landowner. Which I believe we all could respect that.
I would be interested in a brief description on how it works Mike, just for personal knowledge.
#28
The question was asked:
Do dogs frequently cross onto other hunters property?
The answer around here is you better believe it! I suspect that most of the people on this board who are writing "to each his own" and all that have never had their hunt ruined by trespassing dogs.
I usually have multiple hunts ruined throughout the season and I usually suck it up. However, this year I had the last hunt of the season ruined and I am still PO'd. Anyway, I agree to each his own but everyone is not keeping their own to themselves. Around here dogging is imposed on everyone.
I plan to bring up the idea of outlawing the parking ofdogging trucks along the road with a county commissioner I know. Hopefully this will cut down on thedoggers turning their dogs loose on land that they don't have permission to be on. If this were to solve the problem then I and the doggers could live in harmony.
Folks keep writing about protecting hunting rights. Well, being able to hunt your own land without it being wrapped up with dogs is what I consider a hunting right worth fighting for also. I mean how many people on this board just let strangers walk around on their property making a terrible racket while they are trying to hunt? Not many if I had to guess. I think people are too quick to overlook that fact.
Do dogs frequently cross onto other hunters property?
The answer around here is you better believe it! I suspect that most of the people on this board who are writing "to each his own" and all that have never had their hunt ruined by trespassing dogs.
I usually have multiple hunts ruined throughout the season and I usually suck it up. However, this year I had the last hunt of the season ruined and I am still PO'd. Anyway, I agree to each his own but everyone is not keeping their own to themselves. Around here dogging is imposed on everyone.
I plan to bring up the idea of outlawing the parking ofdogging trucks along the road with a county commissioner I know. Hopefully this will cut down on thedoggers turning their dogs loose on land that they don't have permission to be on. If this were to solve the problem then I and the doggers could live in harmony.
Folks keep writing about protecting hunting rights. Well, being able to hunt your own land without it being wrapped up with dogs is what I consider a hunting right worth fighting for also. I mean how many people on this board just let strangers walk around on their property making a terrible racket while they are trying to hunt? Not many if I had to guess. I think people are too quick to overlook that fact.
#29
digi you are correct, a few bad apples will end up ruining it for everyone, the legal dog hunters and the ones that don't care and will never care where property lines start and end, also the practice of turning out hounds on "property lines" and them getting on neighboring properety, the bad dog hunters are dog huntings worst enemy
racks doggin deer is fun and different having done all forms of it i prefer hunting out of a stand and seeing deer in a more natural state, but i'll tell you in the southern part of bama it is so lush and thick dog hunting was thought for a long time the only way the deer could be hunted, back before food plots, and trust me them deer know what going on as soon as the tailgate drops, the deer have been out-smarting the hounds for years, what breed do ya'll use on yotes, i know some people in missouri that use greyhounds
racks doggin deer is fun and different having done all forms of it i prefer hunting out of a stand and seeing deer in a more natural state, but i'll tell you in the southern part of bama it is so lush and thick dog hunting was thought for a long time the only way the deer could be hunted, back before food plots, and trust me them deer know what going on as soon as the tailgate drops, the deer have been out-smarting the hounds for years, what breed do ya'll use on yotes, i know some people in missouri that use greyhounds


