SHOULD THE HUNTER TIP A GUIDE?
 

I HAVE A QUESTION TO POSE TO THE HUNTERS THAT HAVE BEEN ON OUTFITTED WT DEERHUNTS WHERE A GUIDE WAS USED. I HAVE BEEN LUCKEY ENOUGH TO GO ON A FEW OUTFITTED HUNTS (CANADA) WHERE ONCE THERE THE OUTFITTER TURNED YOU OVER TO A GUIDE. THE GUIDE OFCOURSE TAKES YOU TO AND FROM THE STAND ...ONCE IN YOUR STAND HE GENERALLY IS OFF SOMEWHERE WORKING ON THE OUTITTERS PROPERTY AND IF YOUR LUCKY ENOUGH TO HARVEST A BUCK HE WILL TAKE CARE OF THEFIELD DRESSING ...HELP YOU LOAD IT UP TO GET IT BACK TO CAMP AND SKIN AND CAPE IT OUT. SO NOW FOR MY QUESTION ...SHOULD IT BE THE HUNTERS RESPONSABILITY TO TIP THE GUIDE?THE ONES OF YOU THAT HAVE HUNTED CANADA KNOW ITS NOT CHEAP WHEN YOU TAKE IN CONSIDERATION THE COST OF THE EXTRA EQUIPMENT THAT YOU HAVE TO BUY TO HUNT UP THERE ..THE AIR FARE ... LICENSE AND TAG... AND THE COST OF THE HUNT ... I FOR ONE THINK THAT THE OUTFITTER SHOULD BE PAYING THE GUIDE TO DO THE WORK I MENTIONED ABOVE IF HE DOES NOT WANT TO DO IT HIMSELF ... I THINK THAT SHOULD BEINCLUDED IN THE PRICE OF THE HUNT ... AND IF YOU GET EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE FROM YOUR GUIDE ( OVER AND ABOVE ) THEN ITSUP TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO TIP OR NOT BUT NOT AND OBIGATION ... THEN SOME EVEN EXPECT YOU TO TIP THE COOK ... LET ME SAY I AM NOT A TIGHT WAD BUT I DO NOT LIKE TO BE TAKEN ADVATAGE OF EITHER .. WHEN I GO ON A HUNT LIKE THIS AND PAY THE PRICE OF WHAT THESE OUTFITTERS WANTI EXPECT GOOD SERVICE WITHOUT HAVING TO TIP FOR IT .... NOW I KNOW SOME OF YOU WILL SAY THAT THERE SHOULD BE AN UNDERSTANDING WITH THE HUNTER AND OUTFITTER BEFORE THE HUNT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT AND ITS NOT A QUESTION WHETHER THE GUIDE DESERVES TO BE PAID BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY HE DOESBUT MY QUESTION IS SHOULD THESE OUTFITTERS EXPECT YOU TO PAY A TIP TO THEIR EMPLOYEE'S FOR A SERVICE YOU SHOULD EXPECT TO GET ANYWAY ON TOP OF THE COST OF THE HUNT...WHATS YOUR OPINION?

ROLL TIDE
DD

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Lets look at this from the otherside of the coin. I've spent my days as just a guide and not an outfitter. Now I' am both but here's the real deal on how guides are hired and treated. Guides are hired mostly in a seasonal position most do odd jobs all year so they can do their on true love hunt. An outfitter will hire them on a average for about $400 a week. But for the 18 to 19hrs a day all week long a western guide puts in it works out to about $4.50 an hour. Yeah amazing isn't it. Its not the outfitters responsiblilty to tip the guide for the hunter. Sometimes the outfitter will split up a tip that he gets to the guides. I'm glad my business is a family one with no outside help it keeps things flowing smoothly.

If a client kills a animal and had a time of their life they should aleast give the cook and the guide something. Is $20 a bank buster? Even if a person does not kill and had a great time this should be the case.

Usually the only people that never tipped in my experiences were rude tightass people. Don't be a rude person.

One client just barely had enough money to make the trip of a lifetime for a working class man. He had saved three years to come kill an elk on a guided hunt, his dreams were everything he expected. After the kill and back at camp he walked up to me all sad faced and shook my hand and gave me three cans of copenhagen and said its all I can do. I'll remember his gesture of thanks forever. The real tip was seeing the man's smile on his face after his dream was on the ground. Also one of very few men that actually helped me take care of the animal after the kill. That's a real person. Thanks Ted.

Tip the cook also they work hard and alot of hours. And for god sakes be a fellow man.

One note on the other side of the coin if the hunt is a horrible disaster because of the outfitters arrangements and responsibility then by all means keep the money in your pocket.

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i worked for tips at one of my former jobs but i think if you make the choice to do those types of jobs if you want the tips you go the extra mile you also know going in you are only guaranteed the pay not tips when i go out to eat i normally expect to tip the folks working now that tip depends on the service i get if your guide is good show him slide him some cash if he isn't any good don't give him much now for me i don't charge to guide on public land and i only do it to help friends and a few out of towner's and I'm good at it but i have a real job that pays the bills so i only guide 4 weeks a year and Sundays during deer season i don't do tips we keep it low key mostly i do handicap and youth I'm almost always booked up but i have no desire to do it as a job or business and every year i try to teach what i know to a new hunter i also try to learn from some of the seasoned hunters maybee when i retire ill do the full deal

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I figure this just like tipping at a restaurant. If the service and food is great they get a generous tip. If not so great, the tip with reflect their efforts. If a guide really puts forth an effort to find the game and get you in a position to make a reasonable shot, you own him for his efforts even if you miss the shot. He did his part the rest is up to you.

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Its not the outfitters responsiblilty to tip the guide for the hunter. Sometimes the outfitter will split up a tip that he gets to the guides. I'm glad my business is a family one with no outside help it keeps things flowing smoothly.

CHEROKEE I HAVE TO AGREE ITS NOT THE OUTFITTERS JOB TO TIP THE GUIDE BUT I WOULD HAVE TO ASK YOU AS AN OUTFITTER WHY YOU WOULD ONLY PAY A GOOD GUIDE $4.50 AN HR? I ASSUME BECAUSE THAT LOW OF A WAGE ALLOWS YOU THE OUTFITTER TO NET MORE PROFIT ... I ALSO AGREE THAT IF THE GUIDE IS EXCEPTIOANL IN WHAT HE DOES THEN HE DESERVES A"REASONABLE" TIP IF I SHOOT AND WOUND AND ANIMAL AND WE HAVE TO TRACK IT THROUGH THE BUSH SEVERAL 100 YARDS OR IFDEER MOVEMENT IS EXTREAMLY SLOW AND BECAUSE OF HIS PRE SCOUTING HE MOVES HIS CLIENT INTO AN AREA THAT NETS A SHOOTER ...BUT I HONESTLYTHINK THE OUTFITTER IS ASKING TO MUCH TO EXPECT A TIP FOR THE COOK WHEN MOST OUTFITTERS I HAVE DELT WITH MAKE GREAT HOME COOKED MEALS ASPART OF THEIR PITCH WHEN THEY ARE TRYING TO SELL YOU A HUNT ...SO ONCE IVE COMMITED TO BUY THE HUNT I HAVE TO THINK IVE BOUGHT THE GOOD COOKING AND THE GOOD HUNTING ...IM NOT TRYING TO SPLIT HAIRS HERE ... I PERSONALLY WOULDPREFER THE OUTFITTER TO CHARGE ME $500.00 MORE FOR THE HUNT SO HE CAN PAY HIS GUIDEAND COOK WHAT THERE WORTHTHEN TO"EXPECT" ME TO TIP FOR GOOD SERVICE WHEN AFTER WHAT MOST YOU GUYS CHARGE FOR THESE HUNTS ( MOST ARE WORTH IT ) THAT A HUNTER SHOULD EXPECT GOOD SERVICE ... AND I MAY BE WRONG ..BUT IT JUST RUBS ME WRONG ...ITS OK FOR A OUTFITTER TO PAY A GUIDE $4.50 AND HR AND TAKE ADVATAGE OF THE GUIDE BUT ITS NOT OK FOR A HUNTER TO EXPECT GOOD SERVICE WITHOUT A TIP ON A $3500 TO $5500 WT DEER HUNT .. THATS THE POINT I AM WANTING TO DISCUSS .. LIKE I SAID MAYBE I AM WRONG ..IF SO I AM MAN ENOUGH TO ADMIT IT ..THATS WHY I HAVE POSTED THIS QUESTION

DD

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Igo woodland caribou hunting in Newfoundland which necessitates a guide and feel that a tip, if deserved, is a gererous gesture. The guides don't get paid much from the outfitter and work hard to show the client a memorable time.I always bringa little extra money to show my appreciation to the people who make myexperiance great. I use the same outfitter, cook and guide every year and they are like family.

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Champlain I can appreciate your gester on an Elk or Bouhunt where the guide it with you most every miniute of the hunting day and with all the walking and work that is involved with Elk or Bouhunting ... but when someone just drives you to a blind and ..lets you out ...you set for 11 hrs and then he pics you up ....well anyway like I said I could be wrong ....

DD

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I see no problem with offering a modest tip. $20 does not seem like to much.

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More like $300-$400! He has to be a guide and be with
you when you take the animaland help you packing it
out. Not one like DD mention, that is not a guide.

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I have been on one guided hunt. The guide I had was with me at all times, and worked his butt off for me. I tipped him $100 because he deserved it. I would have tipped more had the hunt been more expensive, or the guide had to work longer. We were out for a full day, not a week. If a guide just drops you off and picks you up, I would suggest just playing it by ear. Like, how was his attitude with you? Did he directly help you succeed in your hunt, or was it purely luck? I would factor in those things and make a decision after the hunt. JMHO

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Doc you do make a good point. It probably will never get to that because I wouldn't be hunting anything where a guide would drop me off in a stand then go back to the cabin. My personal standards are to hunt, track, spot and try to harvest all game. The only guides I have any experience with is the guys up in NL at Snowshoe Lake. They all participate and interact with all the guys in camp. After I harvest we usually go back the next day and either pack it out or get it with an argo if possible. I always give the other guides a few bucks for helping with my animal. The outfitter retrieves all game by the agreement but I always insist on being part of the party. It is a good way to see more game and get to know some of the other guides and it is a blast. I can tell you from experience that they really do appreciate the tips and I enjoy giving them.

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If he duz his part..Ill break him offa proper chunk

If heeze an ass..Ill opt to swap in the early going

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There is a lot more that goes into it then just driving you to a blind and calling it quits. Who set up the blind? Who is the guy that keeps it baited? Who guts, capes, packs and ships your game? Who provides your lodging, and provides your company? Sure you could figure it all into the natural cost of a guided hunt and not leave a tip...but it's not figured in. This has been discussed already at length in the Big Game forum a number of months back.

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James thank you for your input but I respectfully disargree .. First of all I have always hunted out of a ground tent blind when in Canada so not a lot of effort in setting one up ... Secondly when it comes to gutting and capeing if you read most web sites of the outfitters they make a point to show that the price of the hunt includes this service along with preparing the meat for shipping although with all the hassle you get going through Customs Ive always left my meat and donated it ..... Thirdly lodging and meals are included in most WT deer hunts in Canada and is explained that way on the outfillers web site..Im not saying all do but I think you will find most are all inclusive ...Forth when you hunt Alberta there is no baiting so that is not a service provided although I do know that is something that happends in Saskatchawan ...Fifth this ain't the Big Game forum ...I am sure that when hunting big game the guide does a LOT more work then most of the guides for a WT deer hunt in Alberta or at least from what I have seen frommy four trips there... Saskatchawan might be a little different .... I think tiping a guide on a big game hunt would be like tiping a waiter after a four course meal ( well deserved )... and tiping a guide on a WT deer hunt in Alberta (in most cases) is like giving a tip at a buffett ... and just to clearify these guides are not looking for a $20.00 or a $50.00 tip they expect a $100.00 or more for a tip ...and so does the cook ..again James I respect your opinion its just that I disagree ..


DD

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I have read your description of your particular hunt and I understand your sense of the amount of Work your guide is actually doing.I don't disagree with your logic,I guess it depends whether you ever intend to hunt again with that outfitter.I know it shouldn't be this way but who do you think is more likely to get a better hunt the hunter who hunts with the same outfitter every year and tip's generously or the returning hunter who doesn't tip or tips very meagerly?

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I only hunt whitetails in Texas and Mexico, and I dont plan on hunting them anywhere else. But each year I book atleast one trophy buck hunt somewhere in the lone star state (almost always south texas) and/or in ole' Mexico. I personally have NO problem with leaving a nice tip. To me leaving a tip or "guide fee" is as much a part of the hunt as paying the outfitter. I generally always leave atleast $50 per day on a 5 day hunt. The least amount I've left a guide was $200 the most was over $1,000. Plus I normally leave $100 for the cook. I know if I was a guide I would want to be tipped..

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This is another reason why I like to tip. Ranchers in this area are pretty tight nit. Word gets around when your an avid hunter who hunts on different ranches and with different people each season.

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If I ever go with an outfitter that relies on a guide and a cook to make my trip more successful and enjoyable I guarantee I will have a healthy tip available if the hunt and trip areenjoyable.

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I've never been on a guided hunt, so I have no experience in whether to tip or not. I do wonder though, when you sign up for a hunt with an outfitter, isn't what you get for your money mentioned up front? If a guide to set you up in a stand and get the deer dressed and back to camp is included, then isn't that what you already paid for? If food is provided as part of the deal, are you not expecting someone to cook it?
Perhaps I am just a tightwad, I hope not. I have no problem with tipping when I feel I got more than what I was expecting in the original deal. However, why tip when you get only what is reasonably expected from an outfitter? Just because a guide agreed to work for an outfitter for low wages and expects tips is not reason enough for me to pay his way.

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DD, but all the waiter did was carry the plates form the kitchen to your table...so how is this really different then a whitetail guide taking you to a blind?

I worked as a Big game guide in Saskatchewan for Black Bear, Whitetails and Moose. All but the moose I did the same thing determined based on wind and activity where to take my hunters each morning. In my case I humped it much more during bear and whitetail season then I ever did when I was with my hunter the entire day/week during moose. Like you eluded to in Saskatchewan guides are also responsible for baits, so their is a lot of running and gunning in each day. However it doesn't matter where you guide or what, when you have hunters and more coming you can't afford to head back to base camp and sip coffee, if you take any pride in your work/service. Guiding is much more than 7 days withyou thehunter - a lot of time is spent in preparing, scoutingand having to change horses on the fly. Think of it as your own hunting in your home state, you don't just wake up one morning and say hey it's deer season I better go get me a buck!The guide is the heartbeat of the outfitter, some outfitters have time to scout and be active in the day to day hunting portion but far more have other things to tend too. They relay on the guides to make each trip enjoyable and ulitmately keep filling their slots each fall. Being I was on the opposite side of it, I know that every tip I received was due to my efforts and yes I expectedthem as well b/c I busted my nackers for each hunter I guided. It didn't matter if they had deep pockets or not, they all deserved the same effort and opportunity while under my care. 95% of the guys knew the guide was as essential as the outfitter and willing to show a token of appreciation at the end of the hunt, regardless if they where leaving with a filled or unfilled tag. In fact many cases the guys who didn't pull the pin where the most healthy tipper's. I can tell you I really appreciated the tipsmy hunters gave me, small or big it wasa gesture of gratitude and like getting a report card. You knew that when they came up to you how they were feeling, it wasn't what they handed you but how they handed it to you that told you how they felt about your service.

Tipping is a gesture of gratitude to a service performed, so everyone must evaluate and come up with their own perspective. Just remember the next time yougo on ahunt your guide has been working on your hunt well before you stepped on that plane..just to say a lot happens that the hunter don't see in way of preparing for the season. If all he needs to do is drive you to blinds then either he is well prepared or flying by the seat of his pants....but you make the call!!!!

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Good thinking!

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If your guide was good to you...you should tip him. If your guide sucked...you should ask for your money back. If your guide was somewhere in between...you should use your own judgement. A good tip shouldn't be the rule, it should be the exception for a job well done.

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LET ME SEE IF I CAN CLAIRIFY MY POSITION A LITTLE BETTER ... THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT A GUIDE OR A COOK SHOULD BE PAID WHAT THEY ARE WORTH ... BUT I THINK IF AN OUTFITTER IS GOING TO ADVERTISE "GREAT"HUNTING... "HIGH SUCCESS RATE" ...
" GREAT HOME COOKING" ALLFOR $XXXX ....THEN I THINK THE OUTFITTER SHOULD PAY HIS "EMPLOYEES" A REASONABLE WAGE OUT OF THAT FEE AND NOT EXPECT THE HUNTER TO HAVE TO PAY A TIP ON TOP OF THE HIGH COST OF THE HUNT UNLESS THE HUNTER FEELS HE GOT AN EXCEPTIONAL HUNT AND SERVICE AND NOT BECAUSE HE FEELS GUILTY OR OBLIGATED ... OR OUT OF THINKING IF HE DOES NOT TIP AND WANTS TO RETURN NEXT YEAR THEY WILL STICK HIM IN A "DEAD" STAND ... WELL AT ANY RATE THANKS FOR EVERYONE"S INPUT ...

DD

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When a tip becomes expected then I have a problem. . . A tip is a thanks for a special job. If the tips are expected payment then that should be spelled outfor whom and for how much at the time of payment for the hunt. If these folks who work in the trade are underpaid then up the fees, don't nickle and dime the hunter to death.

Now that your pants are down she changes the rules, that's an interesting way to negoshiate.

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WOW GEORGE ^5 BRO ...FINALLY SOMEONE WHO SEE'S IT LIKE I DO !!

DD

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If you're looking for more on the subject I strongly suggest you read this entire thread:

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=946546&mpage=5&key=guide%2ctip&a mp;#1007608

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DD, I also see it as you do. If an outfitting guide is not
worth a dam, he does'nt get zip from me and will let
the outfitter know he better take a picture of me if he
ever wanted to see me again!

I do believe in a set tip of $50 a day for a super guide.
If the foodand service is super, I consider a $10 a day tip
to all in the kitchen area, especially if I intend to
return in the future. When I go on a hunt as such, I
usally go for 10 days and usally get a reduced rate.

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JIMMYTHAT IS A VERY INTERESTING THREAD WITH MIXED OPINIONS AND EXPERENCES BUT A LOT OF IT IS OFF THE SUBJECT THAT I POSTED ON THIS THREAD ... I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT TEXAS ..AFRICA ...WYOMING ... BUT CANADA AND IM NOT TALKING ABOUT MOOSE ..ELK .. CARIBOU ...OR GRIZZ .... MY QUSTION WAS BASED ON A WHITETAIL DEER HUNT .... WHERE IN MOST ALL THE HUNTS I HAVE BEEN ON THE GUDIES RESPONSOBILTYS WERE VERY LIMITED ... NOTHING LIKE WHAT IT WOULD BE IN A BASE CAMP .. OR A SAFFARI ... IT MAY BE MY FAULT THAT I WAS NOT CLEAR ABOUT THE TYPE OF HUNT I WAS REFERRING TO BUT I HAD HOPED I EVERYONE UNDERSTOOD I WAS TALKING ABOUT A WT DEER HUNT ... I MEAN IF YOU PAY THIS KIND OF MONEY FOR "A HUNT OF A LIFE TIME" WHY WOULD YOU EXPECT LESS THEN A "HUNT OF A LIFE TIME" AND BE EXPECTED TO PAY A TIP WHEN YOU DO HAVE A GOOD HUNT? I THINK THE KEY WORD HERE IS EXPECTED

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I tipped my upland bird guide 10 bucks the first time we went out. I noticed others tipping 5 bucks or nothing. I tip 10 bucks each time. He always slips me in even if I call on the night before a hunt.
Tippping makes the difference
okcmco

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WELL REB US REDNECKS GOT TO STICK TOGETHER BUDDY !

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Whitetail Deer, Moose, Elk, North America, South America, Europe, Africa, who gives a damn? It's the same concept.

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As I stated on my original post,I understand your outlook on this.But wishing some thing were different doesn't make it so.Anyone who is in business gives their best efforts and service to those that provide them with the greatest financial rewards.Thats how they survive and thrive.I certainly hope that courtesy and decency and sincerity still matter.If you have a not so great trip and don't intend to go back then don't tip.
If you are going back to the outfitter where you shot that beautiful buck we have seen so much of,you may want to consider tipping.
It really comes down to supply and demand,If an outfitter can book solid year after year with repeat hunters who are generous,why would they need or want to book again with a non tipper?There are so many othe relements that should be taken in to consideration,did you have a good attitude,did you pitch in with chores or other things to help out,that may be enough for the outfitter to recognize your a decent guy.But if you came in to camp wreaking of money with either your stories or the equipment you have and they work their butt off to give you a great hunt and then you don't tip,how do you think they will feel about your coming back?This is all really logical stuff.
Good luck to you! I hope where ever you go you have a great hunt!

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It's not all the same concept really, different hunts means different levels of effort by the guide. If a guide is with me all day, using his knowledge and experience working the elk call, the lay of the land, setting me up and calling in bulls for me, this is different than a guide who puts me in his truck, drives me to a stand, hands me a radio and leaves.

One is lots of full time effort, the other is a taxi driver.

Do each deserve a tip? That's your call, but it is like the buffet analogy, a waitress came to your table and took your order and said "buffet is over there". Both get tips, one worked more and did more and was responsible for more and deserves more.

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[quote]ORIGINAL: Bob H in NH

It's not all the same concept really, different hunts means different levels of effort by the guide. If a guide is with me all day, using his knowledge and experience working the elk call, the lay of the land, setting me up and calling in bulls for me, this is different than a guide who puts me in his truck, drives me to a stand, hands me a radio and leaves.

wow thank you Bob ...I think you undertsnad what I am trying to get across ... some on here (Jimmy Vee ) thinkthat I am trying to cheat the guide and I think I have made myself clear I think he deserves to make a fair living and a fair wage .... TSOC thank you for your input as well ... I respect your opinion ...

DD

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DD:

My opinion is you don't tip in the circumstance you are talking about. To repeat -- you have paid for a high dollar outfitted hunt and the guide's role comes down to driving you to the blind, picking you up from the blind, skinning your kill, and caping your trophy. This is not the case of the guide who is working 19 hours per day 7 days per week (hard to believe anyone can work 19 hours per day 7 days per week for the duration of a hunting season). Now the guide might be working . . . but he isn't working for the hunter during the day. In this circumstance the outfitter needs to pay the "guide" enough to make it worth his while to do the work -- whatever it is.

If the hunt involved the guide spending daylight hunting hours with me and perhaps one other hunter scambling around the mountains to find a good animal, that is another story. In that case I might well be inclined to tip.

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[quote]ORIGINAL: tsoc

As I stated on my original post,I understand your outlook on this.But wishing some thing were different doesn't make it so.Anyone who is in business gives their best efforts and service to those that provide them with the greatest financial rewards.Thats how they survive and thrive.I certainly hope that courtesy and decency and sincerity still matter.If you have a not so great trip and don't intend to go back then don't tip.
If you are going back to the outfitter where you shot that beautiful buck we have seen so much of,you may want to consider tipping.


WHY TSOCWHAT NICE BUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??

DD

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You know that big knarly nasty stud that your holding in your photograph!You are right to be proud!

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THANK YOU MY FRIEND ... THAT IS A LIFE LONG DREAM ..TOOK ME 25 YEARS TO FINALLY HAVE THE STARS LINE UP JUST RIGHT .. I AM VERY PROUD AND THANK THE GOOD LORD EVERYTIME I LOOK AT THAT MOUNT... I WOULD POST ANOTHER PICTURE OF IT HERE BUT HUMILITY WON'T ALLOW IT ;>))

ROLL TIDE

DD