Bal. tip or Patition for Deer
#31
I just found some Sciroccos at a local store for around $50/100, which is comparrable to the price I pay for partitions. I think I'm going to get them and try them this season. Anyone have a link to a recipe for reloading for them please?
#33
Bill, first off welcome.
I do however have to point a few things I do not agree with in your post. First off Deflection will occur with any bullet! In fact it is documented the large flat based bullets in fact are worse at this then the BT type bullets. Not saying a partition is lumped into this as it is flat based but very sleak in profile...yet still will deflect. In other worlds their is "NO SUCH THING AS BUSH BEATERS". As far a wind drift, a BT will drift a lot less than a part. that is one of the reason for this style bullet, long range shots.
Yes a short range shot will yeild much damage out of the 7MM but none the less it will perform as intended and drop the deer but quick. I wouldn't reccomend this type bullet for anything bigger than deer, unless you are absolutely possitive you can hit the lungs and it is a least a 7mm.
I personally love this style bullet for Deer and would never load it for a ELK or Moose hunt. I also personally think a part. is over kill for deer, but it will perform and especially if you take shoulder shots.
I think it really boils down to your personal experiences, situation and maybe even who you hunt with or even talk to in your respective areas. I have seen all bullets do some wierd thing, I have also seen them all do their job remarkably. The often stated rule, is put the bullet where it has to be and you'll get the result you desire. For me I am the most confident on deer where my shots can range from 50 - 300 with a boatail bullet type. Why? B/C I know they will get there and I can shot the can out of them...so why put an extra element into an already complex situation.
My last 2 cents!!
I do however have to point a few things I do not agree with in your post. First off Deflection will occur with any bullet! In fact it is documented the large flat based bullets in fact are worse at this then the BT type bullets. Not saying a partition is lumped into this as it is flat based but very sleak in profile...yet still will deflect. In other worlds their is "NO SUCH THING AS BUSH BEATERS". As far a wind drift, a BT will drift a lot less than a part. that is one of the reason for this style bullet, long range shots.
Yes a short range shot will yeild much damage out of the 7MM but none the less it will perform as intended and drop the deer but quick. I wouldn't reccomend this type bullet for anything bigger than deer, unless you are absolutely possitive you can hit the lungs and it is a least a 7mm.
I personally love this style bullet for Deer and would never load it for a ELK or Moose hunt. I also personally think a part. is over kill for deer, but it will perform and especially if you take shoulder shots.
I think it really boils down to your personal experiences, situation and maybe even who you hunt with or even talk to in your respective areas. I have seen all bullets do some wierd thing, I have also seen them all do their job remarkably. The often stated rule, is put the bullet where it has to be and you'll get the result you desire. For me I am the most confident on deer where my shots can range from 50 - 300 with a boatail bullet type. Why? B/C I know they will get there and I can shot the can out of them...so why put an extra element into an already complex situation.
My last 2 cents!!
#34
I'm hoping the Scirocco can be a "Do-both" bullet for me. If I only hunted deer I would use the Bal. tip as it does just what I want. However, since Elk are part of the picture I want a bullet that has a little more strength.
Anyone have first-hand experience with the Scirocco?
Anyone have first-hand experience with the Scirocco?
#35
Well, shooting the Scirocco yesterday wasn't as gleeful as I'd hoped. My rifle is acting up again and my 100 yard groups are 2+". The good news is all the different loads I shot yesterday grouped 2-3" at 200 yards.
Pretty windy today so I might not hit the range today. This week sometime though. I'm going to try some shots at 300 and hope they stay under 4".
Pretty windy today so I might not hit the range today. This week sometime though. I'm going to try some shots at 300 and hope they stay under 4".
#37
Bill, sorry...fair enough!!!
Power, don't feel bad was at the range last and had a new load go haywire at 200...it happens. Hope she straightens out for you!
Good Luck
Power, don't feel bad was at the range last and had a new load go haywire at 200...it happens. Hope she straightens out for you!
Good Luck

#38
Well, got to try the Scirocco for my deer this year;
http://www.powerandfury.net/j02deer.html
There is a link at the bottom that goes to pictures of the effect of the bullet on the deer. Somewhat gory so don't look if you don't want to see it.
I now think the Scirocco is too much bullet for deer. I'm starting to think the Partition might be the best all-around bullet for deer and elk. I'm going to get some 175g and see how they shoot.
http://www.powerandfury.net/j02deer.html
There is a link at the bottom that goes to pictures of the effect of the bullet on the deer. Somewhat gory so don't look if you don't want to see it.
I now think the Scirocco is too much bullet for deer. I'm starting to think the Partition might be the best all-around bullet for deer and elk. I'm going to get some 175g and see how they shoot.
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