RE: Whats with deer feeders?
 

You guys can take it out of contrast all you want. But you still know what I mean. I am sure you guys could justify road hunting too, but does that make it right?

Guns cause crime, like flies cause garbage.

RE: Whats with deer feeders?
 

3030, I have never hunted around a feeder but if it were legal in Mo. I would sure like to, I could kill a deer without a feeder about any day I want to, in season or out, I would like to have the opportunity to hunt a feeder just to be able to pick the one I wanted and maybe have a better shot, you can call that unethical if you want but I don't. Just how do you feel about trapping, I suppose you feel that that is unethical also. Do you feel that it is taking an unfair advantage over them or what. Do you wear camo while bow hunting? that could be unfair also, do you use scent blockers, do you sit in a stand.
I kind of understand what you are saying but what seems wrong to you may not seem wrong to everyone.

RE: Whats with deer feeders?
 

I live in Missouri too. So I grew up being told that baiting was illegal/wrong. So maybe that is why I don't agree with it.

Guns cause crime, like flies cause garbage.

RE: Whats with deer feeders?
 

3030win, you ever hunt a field or food source before....isn't that kind of the same thing? You waiting for them to come out and feed.

RE: Whats with deer feeders?
 

3030 you just hit bullseye!!
When i was young taking a doe was WRONG!!! boy those old timers just thought that was like killing a nun. now they stress it. the push is on around here to take does. i could if i wanted get like 30 doe tags for my club.
i don't or haven't yet some of my guys want to and i'll probably let someone else work on getting on a management program to do this with the states blessing. i don't know much about it but i know they give them out.
But the feeder issue is a very misunderstood thing. people that can't hunt them usually don't realize they are not like the chuck wagon bell to deer. turkeys yes! deer no!
i would bet you $100.00 turkeys will be at my feeder within 30 minutes after it goes off in the morning.last year i could hear them come off the roost and when that thing went off here they come. that , i think , is why you can't hunt turkeys over corn in arkansas.deer are different i have found. they will walk right by it . i have seen them do it. now in texas it apperently is different.
On the fair chase thing . well....... sitting up a tree out of the line of scent and overlooking a deers natural cover seeing what a perched buzzard would see. is that fair ? kind of like a sniper waiting in silence for the target.
i don't know right now what "fair chase " would really be. i sit in a nice tower stand drinking coffee watching forty acres of pasture. i shoot a deer at 350 yards with my 7mm stw that had no way of smelling me . he was just coming to peak out in the field to see if there are any old lover girls. now was it fair? heck yeah he was fair game and enter cross hair world i just gave him the crappiest deal of the day!
i think you would do the same if you were down here in my world?
anyway i have rambled enough!<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

SOUTH ARKANSAS REBEL

RE: Whats with deer feeders?
 

There's a feeder not too far from our camp, on another tract of land abutting ours. When the wind is right, you can hear the thing go on. Some of our guys have gone looking for it multiple times, but have never been able to find it. Do they take more deer there? Apparently not. Do we, on that side of our land? No. The swamps that we have on our land are far more productive.

Yeah, I learned the same thing about shooting does, too. Last year, we had two game wardens, and a forest ranger, independantly tell us that we had to start shooting does. Something about balance in the herd. It's legal during muzzleloading season. Will some of the guys complain? Sure.

RE: Whats with deer feeders?
 

Feeders are OK as long as you don't hunt on em. That is why I depise bear hunting in some states and Canada. Hunting over jelly doughnuts is a wussy method of taking such a majestic amimal.

RE: Whats with deer feeders?
 

Atleast someone agrees with me.

Guns cause crime, like flies cause garbage.

RE: Whats with deer feeders?
 

Redman60, how do you hunt bears? I know of many who think the same as you, yet their method is to drive cuts or ridges in quads, feilds border dense bush....or like in BC logging roads. Spot a bear and stock (if necessary)....is this a better way than baiting? I am not saying you do this by any means, I'd like to hear your method?

I hunt bears over &quot;Jelly Doughnuts&quot;, so I am a wuss I guess. However I still have to be their and the animal has to show up in legal. To date I have only arrowed one bear in 8 years of this method. However I have shot 2 in oat fields with the rifle....wow big time fun and 1 ML in a tree, equally specatcular. I place my baits in their territory and while it does attract, many cruise right by, so I don't share the opinion of it being wussy hunting.

As far as huning over bait, yeah you don't want to come to Saskatchewan for Deer or Bear....that is the outfitters main method up here. Why, b/c guys want to see animals and possibly take a shot. It is not gauranteed that a trophy will walk in, but you'll get to see some game and that makes you want to come back.

Have an opinion, will share! I don't believe in critizing any method of hunting where the animals are free and wild...as long as it legal...GO HARD!!!!!

RE: Whats with deer feeders?
 

I use feeders and food plots as suplemental feeding. I also sprinkle corn down narrow shooting lanes to stop the deer for a good clean shot.
Most posts against feeders come from people from states that do not allow feeders. For the most part, these folks are talking about something they do not know about, or they were &quot;told&quot; about.
I've learned over the years not to lump all situations into one catagory!
Here are a few things I know about baiting:
1. As I said, on narrow lanes, it stops the deer for a clean, ethical shot.
2. Feeders are NOT deer &quot;magnets,&quot; you cannot just put one up anywhere and expect success.
3.Unless they are starving, they will not move far to get to a feeder.
4. In our area, deer do not come running when they hear a feeder go off.
5. You are not going to see many trophys at feeders, so it is best to hunt an area, not a feeder.
6. I do not know of any evidence that feeders do cause the spread of CWD.
7. (this is my favorite!) Get this.........
Most farmland hunters don't think that hunting over a 40 acre grain field is baiting!!!!!My, my, my, I wish I had a grain field within a 50 mile radius of my hunting lease! It would be trampled by deer! But how would you &quot;scout&quot; a square field without getting lost?
Don't like number seven? Then don't spit in the wind! Hunt your way and I'll hunt mine, as long as we are legal, there will be no problems!
Frank