Ozonics
 

WOW, I was getting ready to post a question for Todd to see if the ozonics units could be used to remove odors from clothing, decided to check out the website and they updated it and actually have a couple of products specifically for this purpose for 2010. That is freaking awesome!!!!

Oh yeah! Just remember, while they will take odors off your clothing, using the while hunting is the ONLY way you can beat a whitetails nose. You can go out in the field SOAKING wet in sweat, and a whitetail can't pick it up if you have the Ozonic's set up correctly. I am going to use the closet for hopefully reducing the amount of ground scent I leave while walking in. That's my hope anyway!

Just saw Todd's ugly mug on a ozonics commercial. Pretty cool

I saw that also.

Any ozone machine that meets the legal ppm requirement for indoor use cannot physically produce enough ozone to have any effect in an uncontrolled outdoor
environment. Just plain scientificaly impossible with any wind movement at all and the limited 1/2 life of ozone.

@SteveBNy

I use an HR-100 when I hunt. I have not been winded or blown at when I've had it running on stand. I still use all of the precautions about scent control with Ozonics as well. I believe it does give me an edge over their noses.

Just my opinion of course.

I understand the apprehension in believing in this product. In fact had Todd not posted success with it, I would have never given it a second glance. However, though Todd is a professional hunter he is not on the same par as some of the more notable celebrities who's actual job is selling product. I truly don't believe he would support any product that didn't work or he didn't believe in regardless of fiscal gain or sponsorship. I know too many people who have used it and have had success for hunting and removing odors from their homes and vehicles to not believe it works to some degree. To quote Andre D'Aquisto "The sign doesn't lie" hard to argue with success. :biggrin:

StevenBNY,

I'm not sure what science you are using, but Ozonic's works! From the first night I used Ozonic's, I've been a believer. This coming from someone who wouldn't even use one until an industry friend brought them to me to use for a night during velvet footage.

They work - PERIOD! I've got my whole team using them now and the text messages and emails I get pretty much say it all. They work, deer don't smell human downwind when set-up properly. They sure smell the ozone (which we have shown on video time and time and time again), but they don't react like it's human scent (because the ozone has destroyed the human scent profile enough to fool them).

You can believe what you want; but Ozonic's offers a 100% money back guarantee that backs up what we say about them! Use it, see if it works, if you don't believe it works, send it back for a full refund. That's pretty much the only guarantee in the scent elimination marketplace like it!

An ozone generator that is legal for indoor use produces such minute amounts of O3 that when used in an open enviroment (tree stand) with varying amounts of wind, it is so diluted that it is impossible to meet the claims. And I have never seen anything to suggest (other then from marketeers) that O3 is enough heavier than air to flow downward in an "invisible curtain". Anecdotal observations are not proof. They could run independant scientific tests to show the level of real effectiveness. Until they do so, I will remain a skeptic and non believer.

Of course you are free to use whatever you want and offer your opinion - as will I.

The hummingbird's wings are too small for it to fly, according to science, but what do you know, it flies.

Here you go...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/04/14...ce-terrorists/

Nice article - but it contains only speculation that it might be a problem if the manufacturers claims are true - not a bit of proof that they are. There is no question ozone in significant amounts kills an oder. The problem is a unit that meets the standards (extremely low) for indoor use attended use ( very effective given time ) cannot possibly be producing enough ozone to have an effect in an uncontrolled open/outdoor enviroment. Especially with even a bit of wind to cause further dilution.

The company has to this point not released the results of any scientific controlled testing to support their claims. Only anecdotal, loosely controlled observations with so many variables present no reasonable conclusion can be claimed. I'll change my opinion only when I see the results of a real test. All are welcome to their opinions as always.

Steve, do you deer hunt? The reason I ask is because I do. I actually spend quite a bit of time in the field year-around chasing these critters like they are my pets. For 22 years I hunted without trusting or really using any scent elimination, and got busted alot. Much of this shown in the last 4 videos we made, actually we are the only company that even shows getting winded because we didn't have a scent elimination sponsor and I won't bend the truth about anything.

Since I started using Ozonic's we've reduced the number of times we've been snorted at by at least 75%. Every animal reacts differently, but I'm not an idiot. When a deer is straight down wind, lifts it's nose wiffing big nose fulls of ozone, and continues on its way.... Well brother, don't use them if you want. Doesn't hurt me one bit.

Good luck this season, and be safe!

Good Answer Todd, lol.
Dandbuck

I hunt a lot for enjoyment and not a job - and will stick to what is scientificly possible.

Good luck.

You can believe whatever the heck you want. I've been on-stand for the past 20 days. Haven't been winded to the point of a snort yet. These things are freaking amazing; if you don't want to believe it - then don't. It's your loss.

BTW, you do realize they are 100% garanteed? Buy one, use it (and disprove it ), and return it if you want to really have something to base your opinion on. Right now it's based on your inability to believe there is 1 company out there that actually produces a product that will beat a whitetails nose. Your claims of scientific data have no basis because I can assure you that they do work on a whitetail deer in north america.

WKP Guys, help me out here. This whole thing is getting under my skin in a big way. I WOULD NEVER promote a product didn't work. If you haven't figured out that we aren't the regualar "industry product pimping guys" - then you haven't seen our videos.

Well though I am not a member of the fields staff, I have been following Todd and the gang for about 4 years now and I can attest to the quality of the limited products he promotes and am convinced no sponsorship would cause him to risk his credibility since how this is one of the founding principals of WKP.
Todd, On a lighter note. I assume you still set your stands and hunt them for a particular wind but use this for those light and variable wind days or annoying swirls. Or is it not a consideration at all since the ozonics? Thanks for the input brother.

I still hunt the winds like I normally would because many of the deer that encounter the "ozone" smell will react to it. Its not like all the deer ignore it. If you were a wild animal, any foreign odor will cause a reaction if it's not "normal". Some are curious (especially young deer and does), some just don't like it. Big difference, they don't associate it to human's or danger in that way. Their body language tells the tale and we have documented hundreds of deer reacting in all sorts of different ways. Some deer will walk through it and hardly show any sign of concern at all. Zero get to the point of snorting regardless of their reaction.

They are AWESOME when you head into an area and the winds aren't doing exactly what they are supposed to do - which is very common in areas of agressive topography. Also, with Zero winds or swirling winds we point them downward at a hard angle and they still work awesome. Again, if you knew who I was and how I am when it comes to gear, I won't take ANYTHING into the field that I don't need. Essentials only, and Ozonic's are a part of the package now!

I was probelly one of Todd's least belivers until I watched it work for my self.. Steve and I filmed 3 bucks and a doe down wind that never got us once..I killed a buck yesterday morning and had a bigger one before light walk right through our wind and nether busted us and I have video to prove the one I killed was down wind.. They work don't know how but they are the real deal..Walt:woot:

I saw the Ozonics piece on "Ground Zero" this spring. I bought an HR-100 at the Minnesota Deer Classic. On my first night out I had 4 bucks around my stand. I wasn't winded during the entire encounter. I'm a believer. In fact, I have not been blown at all season.

The only downside I can see is that the unit itself is heavy. It's like carrying a brick with you. I have some long treks into some of my sets, so it is a bit of a chore. I haul it in though. I don't like hunting without it.

Rosshooter
You should have waited for the 200 it is light as heck..

I'm not into arguing, but these things work. Adult does see us, do everything in there power to bust us, but can't. I think that says enough. Wouldn't hunt without one! I just know the deer doesn't smell blatant human odor and run for the next county. That in itself makes it worth it

My experience as well. And trust me, I have been busted many times before I started using Ozonics.

I was hunting a ditch line and kept seeing nice bucks 3/4 way up the hill. I would not get smelled down low but as soon as i moved up to bucks level I got snorted at three nights in a row by three different bucks. Can someone who claims ozonics works and you don't get smelled using these things explain to me what I'm doing wrong. I clean my clothes and boots and hardly get smelled a lot but if ozonics really work then I shouldn't be getting smelled up high. I put the machine above my head and face it towards where the wind is blowing but that doesn't seem to be working. I've kind of come to a conclusion that these ozonics don't work I'm getting smelled about the same that I did before I bought one. That being said I never got smelled a lot but ozonics claims it stops deer from smelling you but why do I still hear snorting if the machine is running. Another thing when the machine running it really cuts down my ability to hear deer coming in my area. I've never had deer act like they hear it but really obstructs my hearing.

You MUST make certain the machine is pointed in a HARD downward angle over your scent stream. If this doesn't happen, it's possible for some scent to get outside the Ozone. Shoot me an email if you still have questions, OZONIC'S WORK!!!

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Found this thought it was funny. Its amusing to read old threads and people swear by Fad products that we later all realize are junk.

wom .

Just another "toy" to have to tote into the woods (and remove). What happens when the wind switches up on you, or you get a downdraft? Be serious! Hunt high, with the right wind direction and save yourself some "bucks". :s4:

It's easy to say something works if your endorsed by the product. Whatever. I do the shower scent free, wash cloths scent free, hang to dry outside, change in hunting cloths when I get to the farm, spray before I go to the stand spray again when I make it in the stand, and hang H.S. waffers. This year I've shot 3 deer one nice buck all down wind and never had a deer even look at my tree.

Hunters have been killing deer without Ozonics for decades. I think I'll save my money.

I came out with this new product. It's a pill you swallow. There's two kinds. One makes you smell like a rutting buck, and one that makes you smell like a doe in heat. I swear they work. Everybody on TV is using it and look they shoot these monsters. Nevermind the 1000's of acres of feed, and no pressure. It's the pill I swear. Only $99.99 for one. Hurry up while supplies last.

What happens if both are taken?

Lol, you became a super hunter. No need for a weapon. Just hide in your stand an leap on your prey.

Maybe I am lucky but I have been hunting for about 20 years. Maybe there have been some deer that I never saw and they smelled me and turned away and I never knew it. However I do very basic scent elimination. I keep my cloths in a plastic bag with a fresh earth scent wafer. The guy I hunt with (and ride to the woods with) smokes. My boots sit in his garage all season. I put my bibs and boots on and we drive 1/2 hour to our hunting location. He smokes at least one cigarette. Sometimes we stop at McDonalds for lunch before we go out in the afternoon. Sometimes he stops and pumps gas. So I am sure I have more then my fair share of scents on me when I go into the woods. I have had more deer then I could ever count come in and walk directly under or beside my stand. I also have at least one or two coyotes a year walk directly on the path that goes under my stand (the same one me and the deer use). If I am SITTING STILL I have never had a deer stop and bust me from what I would say was from their nose. I have sneezed, moved, banged my gun/bow while raising it etc. The farm we hunt has two stands in it so we can't hunt the wind. We both get a stand no matter what the wind direction is. I have killed a large number of deer on this farm at less then 30 yards. Again maybe I am just lucky but I think people put a little too much stock in scents and scent elimination. I used to have an Ozone air freshener in my house. Ozone itself has a distinct odor that deer have likely never smelled before. I would think this would put them on alert the same as any other foreign smell.

preposterous~! :action-smiley-099:

Uh OK. If that make you sleep better.

I know a bunch of old timers who go to the woods, walk around wearing their bibs, work cloths, or what ever they had on that day. They kill plenty of deer. I can't do it, I have to be sitting still. Remember, just because something doesn't work your way doesn't mean that it is the rule 100% of the time.

Hell, I smoke regularly on stand and have deer come amazingly close. I do nothing for scent elimination (other than rubber boots). Wind direction and stand height (20'+) are the biggest factors in a deer being able to detect you! I had a spike milling around directly under my stand last week, right where I walked and put my day bag on the ground while I connected my climber. I pee out of my stands as well, and they pay it no never mind. I don't need no stinking Ozonics. Be serious!! :hit:

Look back , it's sarcasm.:hit:

:hail:

They need a specific sarcasm font!

Hunting isn't a science , why make it a science , scouting hard and correctly , paying attention , knowing the land your hunting and figuring out all you can. About the critters your. Chasing works better than any gadget or gimmick ozonics scentlok etc pro hunters are just marketers