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NJheadhunter71 07-25-2007 10:58 AM

Question about ATV use in WY
 
I drew a deertag for region R which is around the BigHorn area and had a question about using ATV's out there. Can you use them on BLM and national forest?What are the restrictions as far as off road/trail use? I don't plan to road hunt using it but it would be nice to drive a distance to get away from the roads, park then spot and stalk and also game retrievel. Also what is the best way to huntmulies out there? I have ideas and have been reading alot.

Wheatley 07-25-2007 01:25 PM

RE: Question about ATV use in WY
 
You can ride them on the marked trails in the NF. I am not sure what the regulations are for NR but all of them require an ORV license/sticker. You may want to check into that before you go.

NJheadhunter71 07-25-2007 02:29 PM

RE: Question about ATV use in WY
 
Thanks wheatley, I did seeyou neededthe ORVpermit but was wondering also about where to get trail maps and other area maps. I called the BLM field office and can order maps but the my dilema at this pointis where to hunt?Never being out there before i feel like I should just close my eyes and play pin the tail on the hunting spot! I don't want to drive around amlesslyat first light wondering where Ishould startat. I have been looking at the arials of certain areas but don't know what areas hold more deer than others? Should I look at the meadows more? areas with water? cover? food source? avoid people or other terrain? I am looking at a hunting area about the size of my entirestate and and it gets a little confusing on where to go. I have marked some spots on my GPS so maybe that is a good start. I go through the same ritual every time I go hunting in a new state/area I have never been to.

usa 07-25-2007 05:00 PM

RE: Question about ATV use in WY
 
NJ, go over to MonsterMuleys forum and ask for help, they won't give you any honey holes but they should put you into the right area, another way is do a search both here and MM for wyo bighorns and go over the conversations sometimes you can glean good info, good luck

wyotimberghost 07-25-2007 09:19 PM

RE: Question about ATV use in WY
 
I think you may be allowed to drive a short distance off of the road for game retrieval, but I can't remember how far exactly.

In all honesty, though, it'd be best if you just stayed on the roads/trails. There's a real problem here with irresponsible ATV users going off of the trails and tearing stuff up. They give us all a bad name and if the idiots keep it up they're going to ruin it for everyone. I'm not saying you're irresponsible- I just think it's better for everyone if ATV's stay on the roads/trails. There are more than enough ORV trails to get you in the general area where you want to hunt (get a free ORV map to see all of them), and some of them are plenty rough if you're just looking for a challenging ride. Besides, deer don't weigh that much. Dragging them out isn't that hard if you just halve them.

manboy 07-25-2007 09:54 PM

RE: Question about ATV use in WY
 
it's 300 ft. in blm, or state land.
where is region r? is it above buffalo, or east of ten sleep? if so i was up there last weekend, and you would have to be blind not to see a half dozen 4-5pt 24" bucks, we saw one that would go 180" 6x5. we got out the truck and was withen 20 yards when he finally left!

billybob1234 07-26-2007 01:10 AM

RE: Question about ATV use in WY
 
manboy,
I think your dead on with the 300 ft in NF and as far as BLM and state land I think they mostly say no trailblazing

manboy 07-26-2007 12:27 PM

RE: Question about ATV use in WY
 
well if you go down to the thunder basin grassland you will see the signs.;)

Wheatley 07-26-2007 03:28 PM

RE: Question about ATV use in WY
 
I was up camping around the Meadowlark lake area over the 4th and there were alot of deer in the low meadows in the evenings. I seen two pretty good size bucks and alot of smaller bucks. There are alot of trails everywhere so you should have alot of areas to pick from.

I road the Motorcycle, 4-wheeler and ranger up to east ten sleep and that is some rough riding but it is an awesome place. I bow hunted there years ago with my brother and there is a lookout tower just west of Meadowlark lake and we seen all kinds of deer around there. We were talking to a local at the lodge and he said they counted 25-30 bucks on one hill in one night the week before.

There are good numbers of deer, good luck.

wyotimberghost 07-26-2007 10:11 PM

RE: Question about ATV use in WY
 
wheatley and manboy- I just looked and region R is on the other side of the mountains (shell canyon, paint rock lakes, medicine wheel area).

I did see a pile of deer heading up 14A (the highway from Lovell to Burgess Junction) back in May. That was before the entire highway was open, though. I had to turn around at the top of the grade and haven't gone back that way since. Closest I've been to region R since then was up to Burgess Junction and Granite Pass. I'm probably heading up to the Passage for the all-you-can-eat seafood buffet Saturday night, so if I take a drive towards the medicine wheel to look at moose I'll let you know about all of the deer I see.[8D]

There are always deer around. Just a matter of finding them, because come rifle season you'll have to look a heck of a lot harder than you do during the summer.;)

Wheatley 07-27-2007 07:50 AM

RE: Question about ATV use in WY
 
I thought regioon R included that area. I have not looked at it for a long time though I guess.

Jlloyd31 07-29-2007 02:09 PM

RE: Question about ATV use in WY
 
u could also call ur local game warden in the casper area and get some info


wyotimberghost 07-29-2007 11:02 PM

RE: Question about ATV use in WY
 
Well I didn't make it up onto the mountain this weekend. I got a last minute invitation to go down to Frontier Days that I couldn't pass up. Sorry NJheadhunter.

pyclub1 08-08-2007 01:30 PM

RE: Question about ATV use in WY
 
I personally have had it with all the atvs on public land...Here in WI they dont stay on the marked trails and in the county land they have steel bars across the roads that are marked for walking only and they go around the cross bars and tear everything up plus there are alot of people that use that land for bowhunting and since atvs arent allowed on these forest roads they(including myself) go off of them for bowhunting and then there hunt gets ruined by atvs and such....I dont believe that unless handycapped a person should be able to go even 1 foot onto public land unless marked for atv travel...People have gotten entierly to lazy these days...Thats why I have chosen some of the walk in areas for antlope, because it limits the people hunting and people arent supposed to use atvs in these areas..I own a 4 wheeler so dont think I am bashing atvists because I am not, I go riding every year with a bunch of guys and actually got into a fisticuffs with a guy in norther wisconsin last year because he was doing exactly what I have just been bitching about and he just laughed when I told him what I thought about it...Just as I have said here just in not as nice of terms...PLEASE respect other people and their decision not to use atvs and stay on the atv trails and off walk in only areas no matter what state you are in...Sorry to go off on this thread about something totaly different...Wont happen again just had to say my peace and i'm gone...

NJheadhunter71 08-08-2007 02:23 PM

RE: Question about ATV use in WY
 
pyclub1, I totaly understand what you are saying. I had a couple of hunting club membersthat would drive thier ATV's up the mountian before daybreakevery opening day of gun season. They would scare all the deer from thier beds and then wonder why the adjacent properts owners would see so many deer! I most likely won't even take it off the truck unless
A. it can get me closer to the area I want to walk into away from people.
B. be able to assist in gettinggame back to the truck.
C. help in emergency situations like truck breaking down in the middle of nowwhere or if an injury occurs and I need to get someone back in a hurry.
A couple of years ago I was hunting in the Adirondak's and shot a buck, not a huge buck but not that small either. I drug it to an old narrow road that was very small and washed out. I thenquartered it and carried back to the truck. It was a 2 mile walk and whenI reached the pickup 2 hours later Iwas exhusted! I can't even fathom what it would be like to shoot a 300 pound mulie and have to go say 5 miles through canyons and streams and draws!

pyclub1 08-08-2007 07:31 PM

RE: Question about ATV use in WY
 
I wouldnt want to do a drag on a big one either...I was in no way critisizing you or anything like that..Like I said I too have a weeler, sportsman 500 and I use it alot for goose hunting and bear baiting and all that...I was just venting a little at your expense since you started the post..I appologize if I offended you...I hope you have good luck and hope to hear from you with great success...I hope everyone that ownesa atv learns a little respect and goes by the rules a little more often...Good luck out west...We are going out on sept 29th for a week after antelope in wyoming also..We will be in the buffalo area...Take care and steady hands
pyclub1

Elkcrazy8 08-25-2007 11:12 AM

RE: Question about ATV use in WY
 
I would talk with blm for sure. If you get caught off road, it is a min 280.00 fine and up to 5,000.00 ,depending on the judges decision and it is a misdimeanor. State authorities have no jurisdiction over blm lands so the ticket will have to come from a ranger. But the fish cop can blow the wistle on you. We had a mocho fish and game cop running around trying to enforce blm laws with several antelope hunters this year. He didn't get very far with his enforcing. To show you how critical he was, he was harassing a fellow hunter for pulling 10 feet off the road and covering his atv before walking to his waterhole. Give me a break. What was he supposed to do, leave his bike in the road????? I am with others here on ATV use. I use it to get to my antelope area across the rocky desert, and will use it to haul bear bait. Other than that, it sits in the garage...Kudos to the starting post, you are doing your homework!!!

usa 08-27-2007 11:50 AM

RE: Question about ATV use in WY
 
When you order your Wyo atv permit they will send you maps of the off road trails for the entire state, order from wyo trails

BeaverJack 09-05-2007 05:48 PM

RE: Question about ATV use in WY
 

ORIGINAL: pyclub1

I personally have had it with all the atvs on public land...Here in WI they dont stay on the marked trails and in the county land they have steel bars across the roads that are marked for walking only and they go around the cross bars and tear everything up plus there are alot of people that use that land for bowhunting and since atvs arent allowed on these forest roads they(including myself) go off of them for bowhunting and then there hunt gets ruined by atvs and such....I dont believe that unless handycapped a person should be able to go even 1 foot onto public land unless marked for atv travel...People have gotten entierly to lazy these days...Thats why I have chosen some of the walk in areas for antlope, because it limits the people hunting and people arent supposed to use atvs in these areas..I own a 4 wheeler so dont think I am bashing atvists because I am not, I go riding every year with a bunch of guys and actually got into a fisticuffs with a guy in norther wisconsin last year because he was doing exactly what I have just been bitching about and he just laughed when I told him what I thought about it...Just as I have said here just in not as nice of terms...PLEASE respect other people and their decision not to use atvs and stay on the atv trails and off walk in only areas no matter what state you are in...Sorry to go off on this thread about something totaly different...Wont happen again just had to say my peace and i'm gone...
My sentiments exactly.


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