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billythekidrock 07-14-2007 12:49 PM

WA permit results are up......kinda
 
You can see if you were selected or not, but not which GMU yet.

https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wa/specialhunt

Got Margaret or Toutle bull.......zilch on everything else.

Good luck.

cascadedad 07-14-2007 03:54 PM

RE: WA permit results are up......kinda
 
Hey, thanks for the heads. Results suck, but that's what I expected.

BlackLab 07-14-2007 08:39 PM

RE: WA permit results are up......kinda
 
Well I was feeling optimistic until I seen the results. Big Negative on all counts [:'(]. I guess try again next year ;). G L. all


cascadedad 07-14-2007 09:04 PM

RE: WA permit results are up......kinda
 
I meant to say thanks for the heads-up.

We didn't put in for elk. My son got a youth deer permit, but I doubt if it was the one I wanted him to get. No moose, big surprise there, huh?

My brother is a disabled hunter. This was his 5th year without drawing an elk and 4th year for moose. Guess we ain't livin right.

700xcr 07-14-2007 10:43 PM

RE: WA permit results are up......kinda
 
Thanks for the information. I just looked and I got a doe tag and elk tag. either cow or branched antler elk tag. The new Remington 700xcr 270wsm might have some game under it belt this year.

billythekidrock 07-17-2007 07:35 PM

RE: WA permit results are up......kinda
 
Could a redraw be in the future? Sounds like the draw is all messed up.
Here are a couple threads.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=912.0

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=936.msg8511#msg8511

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=937.msg8521#msg8521

700xcr 07-17-2007 09:39 PM

RE: WA permit results are up......kinda
 
[:@]That just make a person sick. Get all worked up and hear this.

cascadedad 07-18-2007 01:48 PM

RE: WA permit results are up......kinda
 
I told a buddy that I work with about all this earlier this morning. He looked his up at about 9:00 a.m. and it showed "Not Selected" for all his picks. He called me back about 15 minutes ago, 11:30 a.m. and he had just pulled it back up "Not Drawn Yet". I can't look mine up, I don't have my Wild ID # on me.

Looks like a do over. Sure do feel sorry for guys like you 700xcr, but if things happened like I have read, there is no alternative to a redraw.

Have 2 Hunt 07-18-2007 04:40 PM

RE: WA permit results are up......kinda
 
July 18, 2007


Results of special-hunt drawing delayed


The results of the drawing for 2007 special hunting permits are not available at this time, due to technical difficulties with the Department of Fish and Wildlife’s (WDFW) computerized licensing system.
WDFW will post the results on this website and contact successful applicants as soon as the drawing is completed and the results are verified.
A test drawing, conducted July 14, was never verified, because WDFW found that its licensing system failed to include bonus points for many applicants. WDFW is working with Outdoor Central, its licensing system vendor, to correct that problem before conducting a final drawing.
“Fairness is the key issue here,” said Larry Peck, WDFW deputy director. “We need to make sure everyone gets all the bonus points coming to them. This is a two-step process: The drawing is not official until the results have been verified.”
Once that occurs, the department will immediately phone about 320 applicants for special hunts beginning Aug. 1 with the results, Peck said. Other applicants will be notified by mail, as described in WDFW’s Big Game Hunting Rules pamphlet.


This just appeared on the WDFW website.

cascadedad 07-18-2007 06:27 PM

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A test drawing, conducted July 14, was never verified, because WDFW found that its licensing system failed to include bonus points for many applicants. WDFW is working with Outdoor Central, its licensing system vendor, to correct that problem before conducting a final drawing.

Test drawing, yea right. Why don't they just say the truth, "We screwed up and posted some results before they were verified."

Reminds me:
Last year my brother read some info on the WDFW site about a disabled hunter hunt at Mt. St. Helens.He drove all the way there,just to find outyou had to have a written permit. There were LOTS of other disabled hunters there also that just had toturn around and drive home. The info was very unclear and in fact was misleading. They LATER revised the statement, but failed to point out that it was revised. The statement still had the date from the original statement. The guy was covering his rear and I imagine he got away with it.

All I can say, is I am glad I am not the one that has to answer their phone in the upcoming days. Unfortunately, the person responsible probably doesn't have to answer the phone either.

billythekidrock 07-18-2007 08:42 PM

RE: WA permit results are up......kinda
 
Well, with a re-draw it looks like we don't get our bull tags. Here are my interactions with F&G today.



Today I called 2 different numbers 2 times each for headquarters. I got two different answers each time.

I called F&G (902-2515) at 8:30 am and the girl that answered told me:

Her: Hello,….. how can I help you.

Me: Yes, I had a question about the permit drawing. Is the drawing messed up or going to be re-done?
Her: “the drawing is being validated and the results will be up by Friday”

Me: So, is there going to be a new drawing?
Her: uh, well, um, it is always a possibility.

Me: So are the results online going to change?
Her: It is possible.

Me: Ok, by.

Two minutes later I call Licensing (902-2464) and a guy answers the phone.

Him: This is ****, how can I help you.

Me: Morning, how’s it goin?
Him: Well it could be better.

Me: So I imagine you have already heard the question I am about to ask?
Him: Yes, and it won’t be the last time today.

Me: Is the drawing messed up?
Him: Yes.

Me: Are the results online all wrong?
Him: Yes, we have repeatedly asked Outdoor Central to block that information.

Me: Is there going to be a redraw?
Him: Yes. It looks like it. Some people’s elk points didn’t make it into the system.

Me: So is it just the elk portion or the whole drawing that is going to be redone?
Him: As of 4:30pm yesterday they were talking the whole drawing.

Me: So when will the results be done?
Him: Well we have to verify everything to make sure it is kosher. Optimistically by Monday.. That is very optimistic.

Me: Thanks, ya know it would be nice if we could see a blurb online about this so we don’t keep calling.
Him: We have asked up stairs to send out a press release numerous times this week, but they just won’t do it.

Me: All right, have a good day.

So, at 11:30 am I call back at the 2515 number and get the same girl.

Her: How can I help you?

Me: I want to talk to someone about the permit drawing.
Her: Yes, what I can I do.

Me: Oh, uh, I heard that the drawing was going to be re-run and I wanted to know if that was true?
Her: The drawing is being validated and they hope to have the results online soon.

Me: Really, ok, by.


At 3:45 pm I called the Licensing number (2464) again. After seeing the press release online.

Him: This is ####. (Poor guy sounded beat)

Me: Hi, I heard that there was a news release about the drawing being redone and I just wanted to check.
Him: Yes, the whole drawing is being redone. Some points weren’t included for some people. We are working on it right now.

Me: So the drawing should take place in a few days?
Him: It could take place in 10 minutes…or tomorrow.

Me: Ok, have a nice afternoon.
Him: (startled) Oh, ok, you too.

Then I get a reply to my email that I sent yesterday evening to them from the website ([email protected])

My email –
I want to know what the problem with Great Lodge/Outdoor Central is and when will we know the results?

Their reply –
Thank you for contacting the Department of Fish and Wildlife regarding the special hunt drawing. The drawing is currently still in process. As soon as the special hunt drawing is completed, it will be available on our website at http://wdfw.wa.gov/cgi-bin/shp_tmp/permit.cgi. If you have any further questions, comments, or concerns feel free to contact the Wildlife Program at 360-902-2515.
.Sincerely,

Wildlife Program Customer Service


cascadedad 07-18-2007 09:46 PM

RE: WA permit results are up......kinda
 
Sounds like you were bored today so wanted to do a little and .

:D:D

billythekidrock 07-19-2007 09:49 AM

RE: WA permit results are up......kinda
 
lol

No, not bored. I just wanted answers, then wanted to see if the answers would change. Actually took me less than 6 minutes total talk time.

The gal was as smart as a box of rocks, but the guy seemed to be concerned about the situation.

billythekidrock 07-20-2007 08:43 PM

RE: WA permit results are up......kinda
 
So anyone get anything good?

My brother and I "lost" our permits and drew nada. My wife "lost" a buck permit and drew nothing. My buddy "lost" nothing and drew a Quinault bull.

700xcr 07-20-2007 09:20 PM

RE: WA permit results are up......kinda
 
Well,I got my doe tag in Kahlotus area and cow elk in Bumping. Total tags drawn in our party is five doe tags and two cow tags all in the same area. One partner has 7 points for elk now.

summit daWg 07-22-2007 02:46 PM

RE: WA permit results are up......kinda
 
Seven years of selkirk moose.....zero again
Eleven years of Naneum/Quilomene (Colockum "A" now)....zero again
Second year Mission A any deer...... We got that one, so now if the elk hunting is good or bad we will be able to hunt the mission area for deer starting on Thursday November first

BlackLab 07-22-2007 06:39 PM

RE: WA permit results are up......kinda
 
well that redraw did me good!!!!! The first draw I got nothing [&o]. The second draw no deer draw but I got my ELK!!!!:D

usens 07-22-2007 09:34 PM

RE: WA permit results are up......kinda
 
i drew a doe tag for deer in selkirk unit


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