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help for beginner
if i am shootiung clays with 8 shot i shoot descent, if i am shooting with 5 shot i do good and when i tried shooting with BB i couldnt hit anything. will a 4 shot do the job for duck hunting?
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RE: help for beginner
Fer sure man # 3 or # 4 is a duck load........#1 or bb is good for geese what type of shells you shooting?
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#4through BB is sufficient for ducks, but I rarely use smaller than #3. BB is heavy, but it'll dofine.
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i am shooting BB3inch 12 gauge winchester expert out of mod choke.
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The best all around shot for ducks is 2 or 3. Don't disagree with me, because I am right:). My first choice is 2 shot. If they are out of 2, which doesn't take long to happen, I'll go with 3 shot.
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does the choke matter? what choke does everyone use? thanks for the replies!
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Modified or improved cylinder are best. For steel shot, I would go IC. You will have a more forgiving pattern. Improved cylinder with a 26 inch barrel is a deadly combination.
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Dont get caught up in the shot size dilema shoot 2's at ducks or geese it dont matter if you do your homework, andlet the birds work. 2's will put them on the water if you buy 4's for teal 2's for ducks bb's for geese allyou endup with is a bunch of half boxes of shells and it will cost you more in the long run.
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RE: help for beginner
If you are shooting clays with a typical target load, your velocity is going to be anywhere from 1200-1300 fps... with most steel 3" loads, your velocity will be 1450 or greater... on a skeet range, that is certainly enough to make a difference. Not too many folks shoot out in front of targets very often.. but especially with a large shot like BBs... its not designed to hit a target the same thickness as your average morning newspaper, its designed to hit a target say the size of your computer monitor. That, coupled with the fact that a modified choke with BBs, at most ranges on a skeet course, is WAY too tight to be productive with. Moreover, if you are actually on a skeet range, most places will throw you off for shooting shot larger than 7.5.... so tread lightly!
I personally use #3 or #2 steel for ducks and #2, #1 or BB for geese. Situation dependant. |
RE: help for beginner
I would say go with 4's and a modified choke, because a modified will give you slightly more range while still being open enough for the close in shots.
And the reason for the fours is, when guys hunt pheasants(which in most cases are bigger than ducks) they use 5's 6's or 7's...all smaller shot than fours on a bird bigger than a duck. So 4's are plenty to knock down ducks, and its nice to have a few extra pellets in the air incase your just starting out and arent a really good shot yet. you know your just begging for someone to argue with you when you say **** like that dude... ORIGINAL: superstrutter Don't disagree with me, because I am right:). |
RE: help for beginner
ORIGINAL: dukbuster I would say go with 4's and a modified choke, because a modified will give you slightly more range while still being open enough for the close in shots. And the reason for the fours is, when guys hunt pheasants(which in most cases are bigger than ducks) they use 5's 6's or 7's...all smaller shot than fours on a bird bigger than a duck. So 4's are plenty to knock down ducks, and its nice to have a few extra pellets in the air incase your just starting out and arent a really good shot yet. you know your just begging for someone to argue with you when you say **** like that dude... ORIGINAL: superstrutter Don't disagree with me, because I am right:). |
RE: help for beginner
ORIGINAL: superstrutter ORIGINAL: dukbuster I would say go with 4's and a modified choke, because a modified will give you slightly more range while still being open enough for the close in shots. And the reason for the fours is, when guys hunt pheasants(which in most cases are bigger than ducks) they use 5's 6's or 7's...all smaller shot than fours on a bird bigger than a duck. So 4's are plenty to knock down ducks, and its nice to have a few extra pellets in the air incase your just starting out and arent a really good shot yet. you know your just begging for someone to argue with you when you say **** like that dude... ORIGINAL: superstrutter Don't disagree with me, because I am right:). yeah that dukbusters a d*ck or what |
RE: help for beginner
ORIGINAL: wdog1 ORIGINAL: superstrutter ORIGINAL: dukbuster I would say go with 4's and a modified choke, because a modified will give you slightly more range while still being open enough for the close in shots. And the reason for the fours is, when guys hunt pheasants(which in most cases are bigger than ducks) they use 5's 6's or 7's...all smaller shot than fours on a bird bigger than a duck. So 4's are plenty to knock down ducks, and its nice to have a few extra pellets in the air incase your just starting out and arent a really good shot yet. you know your just begging for someone to argue with you when you say **** like that dude... ORIGINAL: superstrutter Don't disagree with me, because I am right:). yeah that dukbusters a d*ck or what (superstrutter, im playen too man...i know 2 is the most popular...just sayen that with 4's you have a few extra pellets out there) |
RE: help for beginner
to the original poster...keep shooting...there are fewer BB's in a shell than 8's, so there is more change for a small clay to fly through a pattern unscathed (that is what Swampcollie was getting at).... I agree with the advice to start out with 2's or 3's and an IC choke...the most common equipment mistake I used to see when guiding was people shooting too much choke for decoying birds...if you go tighter than Modified you need to be a VERY good shot to realize any benefit.... if you go too tight your patterns will blow out and you risk damaging your gun (this is why factory full is not marked for steel shot generally).... this is a ways down the road, but while you're practicing, once you have one type of lead down practice the others as well, it is a good idea to be able to shoot pull-through, pull-away, and sustained lead because they will help you on shots from certain angles....
ORIGINAL: dukbuster I would say go with 4's and a modified choke, because a modified will give you slightly more range while still being open enough for the close in shots. And the reason for the fours is, when guys hunt pheasants(which in most cases are bigger than ducks) they use 5's 6's or 7's...all smaller shot than fours on a bird bigger than a duck. |
RE: help for beginner
ORIGINAL: GordonGekko to the original poster...keep shooting...there are fewer BB's in a shell than 8's, so there is more change for a small clay to fly through a pattern unscathed (that is what Swampcollie was getting at).... I agree with the advice to start out with 2's or 3's and an IC choke...the most common equipment mistake I used to see when guiding was people shooting too much choke for decoying birds...if you go tighter than Modified you need to be a VERY good shot to realize any benefit.... if you go too tight your patterns will blow out and you risk damaging your gun (this is why factory full is not marked for steel shot generally).... this is a ways down the road, but while you're practicing, once you have one type of lead down practice the others as well, it is a good idea to be able to shoot pull-through, pull-away, and sustained lead because they will help you on shots from certain angles.... ORIGINAL: dukbuster I would say go with 4's and a modified choke, because a modified will give you slightly more range while still being open enough for the close in shots. And the reason for the fours is, when guys hunt pheasants(which in most cases are bigger than ducks) they use 5's 6's or 7's...all smaller shot than fours on a bird bigger than a duck. |
RE: help for beginner
ORIGINAL: wdog1 Fer sure man # 3 or # 4 is a duck load........#1 or bb is good for geese what type of shells you shooting? |
RE: help for beginner
ORIGINAL: dukbuster ORIGINAL: GordonGekko to the original poster...keep shooting...there are fewer BB's in a shell than 8's, so there is more change for a small clay to fly through a pattern unscathed (that is what Swampcollie was getting at).... I agree with the advice to start out with 2's or 3's and an IC choke...the most common equipment mistake I used to see when guiding was people shooting too much choke for decoying birds...if you go tighter than Modified you need to be a VERY good shot to realize any benefit.... if you go too tight your patterns will blow out and you risk damaging your gun (this is why factory full is not marked for steel shot generally).... this is a ways down the road, but while you're practicing, once you have one type of lead down practice the others as well, it is a good idea to be able to shoot pull-through, pull-away, and sustained lead because they will help you on shots from certain angles.... ORIGINAL: dukbuster I would say go with 4's and a modified choke, because a modified will give you slightly more range while still being open enough for the close in shots. And the reason for the fours is, when guys hunt pheasants(which in most cases are bigger than ducks) they use 5's 6's or 7's...all smaller shot than fours on a bird bigger than a duck. |
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