Artificial Corn, Need some Opinions
 

I am not much of a waterfowler, having instead spent the majority of my fall chasing big game all around the country. I am working on getting some more waterfowl time in and I am reviewing a product for my blog and would like to get some waterfowlers opinions on this product.

The Product is Real Illusion Corn Kernels by Magnum Fields. I would really to know what you think about laying this out in your duck or goose spreads.

Thank you,

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It's illegal. Not to mention highly un-ethical.

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its not like it will help that much IMO, if your gonna do that, why dont you just use real corn? same difference

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I am curious to know when you state that it is highly un-ethical why you would feel that way. Most waterfowlers use decoys and calls to attract birds into their spreads, how would using artificial product resembling food be any different? I understand as well every hunter is going to have to make the decision for themselves whether to use any product in the hunting market today. Some hunters love the ROBO-Geese and ROBO-Ducks and others think they should be banned and in some states they are banned.

As far as the product being illegal, I have taken the time to check the regulations. I happen to know that it is being used in several states already with incredible success in places like Maryland, Virginia and West Virginia. By all means every hunter should check the regulations in their state but I am assured after my research that this product will be legal in almost every state.

I personally cannot wait to try out this product with Deer, Turkey, Hogs and Waterfowl.

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I personaly don't see it working very well. Its just another thing to throw in the trailer and take up room and something else you will have to pack out into the field.

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I don't see an advantage.... for any animal....
Just another hole to throw my money into.

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umm read what i said again bud, didnt say a thing about being unethical.

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also, with deer, wouldnt you have to spray it with corn scent (do they even make that)
deer arent going to come to it, if they cant eat it, same thing with turkeys. and for waterfowl, why dont you just hunt a cornfield?

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then, do you pick up the kernels when you're done hunting?

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Rory,

I never said that you had stated that it was highly Un-ethical, I am pretty sure that it was A5Mag12 who stated that it was unethical. I have already seen the videos on MagnumFields.com as well as the videos that Rick Bolton showed me last night.

You are all correct in that the Deer and the Turkeys cannot eat this product. That being said, if you lay this on the ground in front of your blind they are going to be curious about it enough to come check it out. If you are any kind of hunter and it is the animal that you want you will have that animal in shooting distance at that time and they are not going to run from it in fear. I have seen the videos of the deer taking a look at the product and I watched a video of a hen turkey in full strut because she wanted to push the decoy off of the Real Illusion Corn Kernels. If that Turkey had been a gobbler he would already be on Rick's dinner table.

As far as scent, I would spray these down with a scent eliminator spray and then lay it on the ground and kick up some real dirt onto it to mask parts of it and keep it from looking so fake. That kicking of the dirt will provide a fresh dirt smell and mask any human odor.

And alas, I did state that I am not much of a waterfowler, but that being said, I know enough to know that when hunting Geese in layout blinds almost 90% of the time you are hunting in a corn field but the corn has been harvested. Small kernels of corn fall off when the corn is harvested and that is why you almost always see geese in those fields. The farmer cannot intentionally leave the corn on the ground because that would be baiting but this product fools the geese into thinking there are small piles of corn on the ground. When Flocks of geese fly over a field they are looking for other flocks of birds that have food to eat. Which is why for 10 years Rick Bolton has set up his decoys to look like they are eating corn and his success has been fantastic.

The beauty of this product is that for $39.95 for a bag of these corn links, they are completely reusable just like your Turkey Decoys and your Goose Decoys. They are completely indestructible and with a good set up they will be just one more tool that you can have in your arsenal.

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Total gimmick.... Its useless in the water which make it worthless for ducks, and 39.95 is not a good price.

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This is starting to sound like a bad commercial! You don't need this chit to kill geese. My best field for years is a total dirt field. By the time they get close enough to see the kernals they are dead enough. This is just another bad gimmic to get your money!

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Yep I agree seen this and about feel out of the chair laughing. It is amazing what people will come up with to con people out of there money.

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same thing i say when people get too caught up on their decoys! if they can see the decoys are fake, they should be dead already

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Nice sales pitch bro!

Let me guess, owner of the new plastic corn ring producing company? That sure was a lengthy review to not be.

We should pack in fake water (huge sheets of glass) to make a fake pond for ducks to land on...bet that would sell too.:eek:

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i use bottle pops and pait them yellow

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Ha, great idea! You should patent that before it gets stolen. As far as the "corn rings" go, this is as stupid at the butt-out tool that came out last year.Actually, those thingslook like chicken rings you find in the frozen food aisle. And I don't think ducks eat chicken.

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I've had the pleasure of using the real illusion corn kernels for about five years now, and the stuff works great. I'm more of a duck hunter myself, and the corn kernels float on the water so the birds can see it from a distance. It's just another great trick to have up your sleeve.

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ya interesting to me too, i thought you wanted opinions? not people to buy this product?

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No one would ever expect that huntinlife, or gonehuntin, are one in the same? Are maybe they are just in cahoots together. Great first post there gonehunting!:D:D:D:D

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I try for a natural spread of dekes when I go out. I dont see much corn floating around in these parts...[:-]

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That is the most retarted thing I have ever heard, if you are telling the truth you must look like a complete jackass sitting out there with fake corn in your spread. No duck eats corn off the water.
How do you keep it from floating off, put a weight on it? Does real corn even float? TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY RETARTED !!!!!

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VA abides by the federal baiting regulations (of course so does everyone else)..... while it does not specifically list artificial type food stuff attractants, I fully suspect that artificial corn would fall under the crop manipulation clause and thereby be under the jurisdiction of the "ten day rule". Salt blocks are the same animal....

I'll have to call the boys and see what they say.... but by and large I suspect that the legality of the practice (esp in VA) would be largely determined by exactly which game warden checked you. A fair number of game wardens (as well as hunters and probably even judges and politicians) do not understand the blind laws we have in place, and the legality of hunting in a certain spot is left largely up to the game warden in charge of the investigation (read: checking you).

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Welcome to waterfowling in VA then! Look at the blackcloud review in my field journal... those geese were shot in VA, over a green peanut field.

All my other fall field goose hunting is done either over natural green/fescue fields or soybean fields. There are of course folks hunting over corn, but you have to be careful because the line between "harvested" and "manipulated" is awfully dang skinny.



And for that price.... NO WAY! Heck for the price of three bags of that stuff you can get a guide to take you all expenses paid and all work done!

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First of all, let me state that I do not work for Magnum Fields, I work for myself. I am the CEO of HuntingLife.com and I have been writing a blog and doing product reviews for the last two years. I was seeking real honest opinions about what you thought of the product. If you are interested in buying the product by all means go find Magnum Fields and talk with Rick Bolton who has been hunting over this product for 10 years plus.

I will take all of your opinions and write what I choose to write on my website. I will post my review here as well when I complete my story. I have talked to several people who have hunted over this product and done my due diligence on the product and I am quite satisfied that this product is more then legal in most states.

To be honest the product looks pretty cool to me personally and I can see the reason why animals would respond to it and feel comfortable. Animals spend a large portion of their day looking for food and if this looks like food and they come in close then you can easily get an ethical shot.

Either way, I will be hunting over this product on Tuesday or Wednesday and I will be taping the hunt for Youtube so you can all make up your minds yourself. I will include the clip in my review. I am certainly not worried if anyone buys the product, I am pretty sure it will go nationally to many retailers, I am sure there will be demand nationally.

If it works for me, its legal and I see success, I am going to be using it on regular basis. If it does not work for me then I really have not spent that much money to find out. From the videos I have seen provided by Rick Bolton, I am very certain of this product, and this hunting season will prove it to me. First up, Long beards in Maryland and Virginia.

I am always looking for great products and outfitters to review and I always try to be as honest as possible and do my research. I thought putting a post here would elicit some great responses, instead I got few great responses, a ton of doubt and personal attacks. I am going to call five great outfitters in Maryland, Virginia and Canada and elicit responses and quotes from them for my story.

Thanks for the help.

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are you using it on turkeys im guessing?

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Heck, I get real geese in my decoys without some fake corn gimmick. I didn't get pics but at one point this year I had probably close to 100 geese landed in my dekes, for over 15 minutes. Its all about how you setup, calling, and hiding. NOT some fake corn gimmick.

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I know you guys think i'm crazy, but just hear me out. When it comes to duck hunting i've tied a couple corn links to some of the necks of the decoys useing fishing line and i leave those corn links floating. Then i also put some weights on other links to make them sink and stay on the floor of the water. I was nervous about trying the fake corn myselfbut those ducks seemed to go right in for it. I even let some land in the rig, and sure enough they tried to dive for it. I thought it was crazy when i first heard of it too, but i tried it and it seemed to work pretty well for me.

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I guess if you can't call or set up right and really just don't know a gosh darn thing about goose hunting then you would need something like this.....I hunt in Maryland and have a great farm to goose hunt, I have been checked and I know most Johnny Law here wouldn't let me slide with some fake corn.....The price of getting busted is definetly not worth it, best suggestion LEARN HOW TO BLOW A FREAKING CALL, biggest thing right there

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NOW THAT IS SOME GREAT ADVICE!;):D

I live and Goose hunt in Southern Maryland. I am curious to know if you can provide documented facts that this method is actually a legal means in Maryland ? Since you have taken the time to to check the regulations, I'd assume you should know.

I think you're 100% right to be asking this.

I can't speak to Maryland, specifically, but I'm wagering that this person did NOT check any state regs at all. The reason I say that is because under Federal law, bait is "salt, grain, or other feed that could lure or attract waterfowl." Since it has to be "feed" per the feds, this stuff is technically legal under federal law.

But that doesn't make it kosher: individual states are permitted by the federal government to be more restrictive regarding enforcement of the Migratory Bird Treaty Act (but not less). And I've seen at least a few states where the definition of bait is "feed or other attractant."

If you find the definition of bait in your Maryland regs, it should spell out whether that bait must be a type of actual feed, or simply any feed-like substance (consumable or not) that will bring in ducks.

If it were me, I would contact the warden for the area in which I plan to hunt and ask him or her, personally. That's the best way to cover yourself.

It's a bit irresponsible of the people making this stuff to not point this out or advise purchasers to be sure it's OK to use. But since it's a guide who came up with it, and since his goal is to make money, it is what it is :rolleye0011:.

Probably not the greatest way for "huntinglife.com" to become known as a reputable/ethical hunting website. Just my opinion.

mac