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Old 08-10-2014, 03:42 PM
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My ego isn't bruised, you made an all encompassing statement that was wrong, so suck it up hot shot. I don't have to research a thing, I knew what I was talking about before I said it, I didn't need to research is, unlike you. If you are going to try to help someone, tell them the whole story. I hunt in SC, do you?
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Old 08-10-2014, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Game Stalker
Let's slow down just for a minute, so that your first dove hunt might be a good one.

SC has many different types of dove. Morning dove is listed as a migratory species meaning you will need a HIP(Harvest Information Program) registration and use non-toxic shot-something besides lead.
I don't know if you have any skill identifying dove species, so here's a good link in case:
http://www.dnr.sc.gov/wildlife/dove/pdf/doveidsheet.pdf
Sorry, but I think Oldtimr has you beat on this one! The sentence in bold that you posted is in and of itself saying exactly what he said in that you're intimating that it's a Federal law to use nontoxic shot when you refer to HIP and then say what you did. The OP also didn't say he was going to a WMA, but rather just asked if they were any good and commented on the price and distance one is from where he lives. Just please move on and next time say exactly what you mean and there will be no guessing on the part of anyone for you to get into a pissing contest with!

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Old 08-12-2014, 06:06 AM
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I will address my comments in short steps because my long posts have been timed out twice.
Tg, you have my respect but we don't fully agree.I did know that wasn't a requirement state wide but the OP also gave no indication other than the WMA where he might dove hunt. My post did have relevance. Where ultimately hunts is up to him.
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Old 08-12-2014, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Game Stalker
I will address my comments in short steps because my long posts have been timed out twice.
Tg, you have my respect but we don't fully agree.I did know that wasn't a requirement state wide but the OP also gave no indication other than the WMA where he might dove hunt. My post did have relevance. Where ultimately hunts is up to him.
That's fine, but if you read your post from another person's perspective like the OP that may not know the law, your sentence was structured such that it was exactly as both of us have mentioned and that nontoxic shot was required everywhere because the dove is considered a migratory bird. It would have been very simple if you had just added "if you decide to hunt a WMA" at the end of that sentence to clarify it's not needed everywhere. It's really no big deal and certainly not worth a response that is so long your computer timed out twice, LOL!

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Old 08-12-2014, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Oldtimr
It is not necessary to use non-toxic shot under federal law to hunt mourning doves,

that requirement is for migratory waterfowl only.

HIP is a means of compiling data on migratory bird hunting and has nothing to do with nontoxic shot requirements.
Your first statement is a blanket one and clearly wrong. It's required on WMA's. You went back to the reg.s later and discovered that.

So that requirement is for mourning dove which are migratory, not just for migratory waterfoul.

HIP is relative by extension.

This is one of the reasons I addressed the OP. Without meaning to, your blanket statement had the potential to get the man in trouble.
No one on this board knows everything, including those whom hunt an area. If I can help keep another hunter from trouble, I'll make such necessary statements again.
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Old 08-12-2014, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Oldtimr
My ego isn't bruised, you made an all encompassing statement that was wrong, so suck it up hot shot. I don't have to research a thing, I knew what I was talking about before I said it, I didn't need to research is, unlike you. If you are going to try to help someone, tell them the whole story. I hunt in SC, do you?
Your whole statement applies to you considerably. I wasn't specific but I did point the man in the right direction. I can be specific but that doesn't always imply spoon feeding someone w/ every detail.
I did cause you to go back and look.(And learn) Be thankful.
Unlike your advice, mine couldn't have gotten the OP in trouble either way.
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Old 08-12-2014, 06:56 AM
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So as far as being a hot shot undeservedly, I can say I still have no problems w/ you personally. So I will give you as an equal the opportunity to take a hike or shake my hand. Choice is yours.
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Topgun 3006
...... It's really no big deal and certainly not worth a response that is so long your computer timed out twice, LOL!
Agreed. But the timer got me again a third time and that was w/a short post. I can type as fast as most people but this sites timer has never liked me.
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Old 08-12-2014, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Game Stalker
Agreed. But the timer got me again a third time and that was w/a short post. I can type as fast as most people but this sites timer has never liked me.
I'm not a computer geek so I can't help you on that, but I've never had that kind of a problem on this site. There must be some kind of setting you can change and maybe someone will read this thread and know how to correct your problem.
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Old 08-12-2014, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Game Stalker
Your first statement is a blanket one and clearly wrong. It's required on WMA's. You went back to the reg.s later and discovered that.
So that requirement is for mourning dove which are migratory, not just for migratory waterfoul.

HIP is relative by extension.

This is one of the reasons I addressed the OP. Without meaning to, your blanket statement had the potential to get the man in trouble.
No one on this board knows everything, including those whom hunt an area. If I can help keep another hunter from trouble, I'll make such necessary statements again.
Sorry, but again you are incorrect with that statement. The WMA is not a Federal Regulation, but rather one made in that particular state under their laws and regulations. That's why your "blanket statement" regarding HIP and all mourning doves being under a nontoxic shot requirement is false! There has to be a specific requirement in a regulation or law for a particular area to require nontoxic shot, as there is no blanket requirement for doves like there is for migratory waterfowl. The only Federal requirement for dove hunting is to register under HIP.

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