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BillBrasky 11-11-2010 11:39 PM

Load Size For Pheasant and Quail?
 
Last year was a great year for pheasant and quail on my hunting grounds--both private and public--and I am hearing plenty of roosters crow in my tree stand. One problem I noticed last year was that although no. 5 shot is great on pheasants, it tends to dress, defeather and cook quail in less than a second--especially when most of them are flushing from 10 yards away. The pheasant, on the other hand, have been flushing at much longer distances. I was wondering if #6 shot in a 12 gauge (I'm thinking about trying those new federal Prairie Storms) would be enough to put down a pheasant at the 30 yard-plus range or if I should opt for the blended loads?

DDMPrecision 11-12-2010 04:44 AM

I've had real decent luck using target loads...7 or 7 1/2 shot.
Typically, they flush within 20-30', and usually are in close groups, at least where we hunt.
One shot takes 2-4 birds if you get it off quick enough.

cowboycrittergitter 11-12-2010 05:27 AM

I use 71/2 shot most of the time. We usually hunt quail but the small shot works great on pheasants to.

ACutting 11-12-2010 05:59 AM

I've always used 6,7, or 7 1/2 low brass for all of my quail and pheasant hunting. Have yet to have an issue dropping birds. You can put a pheasant on the ground with 6 or 7 at 30 yards no problem. I have not shot one with 7 1/2 at that distance but I would assume it would do just fine.

Teddee5 11-12-2010 08:23 AM

71/2 works very well on pheasants, however at closer range you tend to shred meat. sixes are a little better working well on both quail and pheasant. Fives are my personal choice for pheasants and also ducks before the epa was born. once met an older gentlemen who had a case,(20 boxes when a case was still a case) of 16 gauge high brass no. 9's for sale he used on quail. Cannot imagine using that much shot on quail, but he was in Texas where the birds were in unbelieveably large and numerous coveys. I passed on the shells as I could imagine what the recoil on a lite 16 was like.
Actualy, when after pheasants and a covey popped up I found that fives work just as well on the occasional quail.

Bocajnala 11-13-2010 09:40 AM

I shoot #6's
-Jake

BillBrasky 11-13-2010 04:18 PM

Yeah, Teddee, 5's are definitely my preference when it comes to pheasant. It can take them down easily at 40 yards and there always seems to be less shot in the meat. But I never would have thought 7's or even 7 1/2 would do the job. I may try the 6's first and if I"m still mauling quail I may move down to 7's.

lonewolf1990 11-13-2010 04:45 PM

i like 6 for pheasants

Ruddyduck 11-14-2010 09:40 AM

It all depends on you shooting abilities and if you hunting over dogs and range of the flush. There is no one load that is the magic load. Over dogs when flushes occur 20 yards or so 7 1/2's will do the job. Overall 6&5's will be a good choice for those facing wild flushes and longer shots. Just pic what is right for you and your situation.

BillBrasky 11-15-2010 10:57 AM

Hey Ruddy,

I am hunting with a friend with 2 dogs but I wouldn't say they are the most experienced. The GSP will only be about 2 years old this year, so he is still learning but apart from being a more and more willful as the season went along he was staying in at 5 to 20 yards, however the birds were jumping much farther out. The black lab, on the other hand, was impossible to keep close and would sometimes flush birds from 50 yards out. However, one time he did run 200 yards away and flushed a half-dozen roosters right to us, but that was more of a fluke than the norm). I am fairly confident in my shooting abilities, but I could probably do with a bit of practice bore the season starts. My big issue was trying to find a load that would still put down a pheasant at 40+ yards while not liquefying a quail at 10 yards. The unpredictable variable, however, is going to be how well the dogs do this year. They're both growing up, but I'm not sure how much more mature they have gotten in that time.

KT29 11-15-2010 03:58 PM

I can't really say much about shooting quail, as I've never had the oppurtunity to do so. But for shooting pheasants, #6's through a modified choke at 30 yds. will work well. Later in the season when, most birds are more mature and perhaps somewhat spookier, I would think about using the 5's. 2 3/4" would be fine. Just be sure you get the 1 1/4 oz., 3 3/4 dram equivalent loads. Good luck to you.:)

sproulman 11-18-2010 07:35 PM

early birds that flush close.no.6 shot high brass.
hunted birds that flush out at 30 yds etc. no 5 shot high brass.
i like IC choke also

Rebel Son 11-20-2010 07:27 PM

I was using 6's today, we also used 8's but if your a good ways away that only wings em, 6 shot gets really good shots off at any distance, to close and it can really tear the bird up though. So its really personal preference and how far you think you'll be when the bird pops up.

Teddee5 11-30-2010 06:43 AM

Pheasants at 40 yards are a little far for me. They are knocked down, but unfindable, even with a dog at times. Give me 25 to 30 yards with 7 1/2 down to 5's.


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