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Dogs ?
What would be the best dog that doesnt shed or sheds little and would be good for grouse and duck.
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getting a dog that is good for waterfowling that doesnt shed is kinda hard. A thick winter coat is the name of the game. I have noticed a difference in yellow and black labs. The yellows that I have seen have had a finer hair. The hair that was shedded seemed to get airborne easier than the black lab's hair. Just an observation not fact.
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Wirehairs, Drats, Spinones, Griffons and Puddel Pointers come to mind.
I'm partial to the German Wirehaired Pointers myself but the other breeds are very good as well and shed very little. Excellent bird hunters both upland and waterfowl. Not to mention great family dogs as well. GOOD LUCK WYOWIRES |
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I think wyowires gives you good advice. I'll vouch for the pudelpointers. I've been very impressed how little mine sheds. Very independent and solid on point. Here's a picture from last April if you have any concerns regarding cold water...
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GSP is also one of my votes :)
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A lab is the best all around dog. I hunt alot of waterfowl and upland. There is no point in buy anything else. Here is where I got my dog. http://www.downtowndustybrown.com/
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Pointing Labs are great Grouse/Upland and Waterfowl dogs.................But they are Labs and DO shed.
I'd say you should go with a GWP (or DD). . |
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Give me a pointing lab! It the best of both worlds. After you get yourself a P/L, go buy an Oreck to deal with the hair.
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What would be the best dog that doesnt shed or sheds little and would be good for grouse and duck. I think he said a dog that doesn't shed much, I had a lab once and she shed alot of hair! |
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Facts of Life
All Dogs Shed, Bark, Eat and Deficate. Not necesarly in that order. and they are not to particular were they do this either. Some dogs are cleaner than others and some are cooler than others. Pudels are great for old women in CA. and labs are an Duck hunters best friend. A all-around dog is half of one thing and half of another. There will never be a versital breed that is the best at anything. Too Bad Dogs don't come in a Duramax 4 door 4x4 Chevy anyways first set up a nice kennel and get a pair of quality Clippers |
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ORIGINAL: camelcluch Give me a pointing lab! It the best of both worlds. After you get yourself a P/L, go buy an Oreck to deal with the hair. |
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My hunting dog is a Black Lab. But there are alot of good dogs out there. Do your research before you buy and get all the supplies and feed you will need to properly care for your pup. Alot of people keep their dogs outside in kennels and such. But I find that with all the dogs I have had the ones kept by my side at all times are the ones that turn out most loyal.
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All dogs - no matter what the breed need coat servicing. Is part of taking good care of the animal.
One simple thing I do with mine is use a hacksaw blade as it removes loose fine under hair really nice. Now for breed of choice - all hunting stock dogs can be trained to do both grouse or ducks. Depends on whether you want a pointing dog or not. I suggest - go take a look at a few different breeds at the many dog events that one can compete in - then do some research on a few breeds as you choice narrows down and then make your choice.There are many great reputable breeders out there! Saying one breed is better than another is hogwash and starts board wars. Each of us have chosen a breed we like as it is our choice. JW |
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I have a vizsla and 2 pale labs. If it was up to me I would have all Vizslas. I can take her hunting anywhere and by the time we get back to the truck she is dry and clean. I can't say that for the labs. They will be wet and stinky for a day. The vizsla doesn't have an undercoat so I use a vest on her when duck hunting in cold weather. That's just my 2 cents.
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Vizslas don't get dirty. unless you walk them to the dirt.
They also don't find birds, unless you walk them to the birds. |
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Rather harsh words daleh!
I for one have jduged some very nice visulas. JW |
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My vizsla hunting great. I for one will never be without one. She is a great hunting dog and a great house dog. Unlike our very expensive pointing lab. I can't the lab with kids at all. She growls at kids. Everyone has their opinion. I just not a lab person and I have to live with two.
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We use our field bred springers for everything doves to geese.When it gets cold (now we're in north central Texas) we put them in neoprene vests. We do a lot of pond jumping in West Texas but for early teal and most of the season they've been just fine without the vests.
There's no such thing as a dog that doesn't shed much. They all shed at least 2x a year. Regular bathing, brushing and coat stripping tools work best to keep the hair down to a minimum. We use a Mars Coat King to strip the coat works great to pull our burs and anything that gets caught in the coat. I know I'll likely take heat for it but longer coats shed less than shorter coats. I knew a man from MN who guided clients for ducks.grouse &woodcockwith his springers. I'd focus on what you're looking to do with the do first and then take the breed's coat type into consideration. Find the right breed for you and your home and the rest will work itself out. Ask 3 different dog trainers get 3 different answers. |
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i've been told the cross bred labradoodles don't shed can't speak for their performance though
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cat fan,
I hope your name reffers to CAT equipment. Ferrel cats or house cats are the worst thing of all on wild birds. Pheasant, Chukar, Quail, Grouse, Partridge; whatever species andwherever you are. No dog will ever be perfect but, there is a big difference between a real bird dog and something that points. There is also a difference between dogs that have the drive to do thingsand dogs that need help or encourangement. We call these dogs prospects untill they prove themselves. One thing a great trainer taught me was that a dog. horse, or a man had one thing in common. Either they have it or they don't. Ability, Sense, and Desire |
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Everyone has their own opinion on which breed is the best. Some people try to push their ideas on you. I would think about what I wanted from my dog. Is it going to be a house dog or kennel dog. Some breeds don't do well being left in kennels. Do you want a hyper dog or one that is not so hyper. There is alot to consider when picking a breed. Then when you find a breed you like there is picking a breeder. Some breeds are bred in different sizes and colors. It's all about personal opinion not what someone else believes.
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Once you narrow your list down to a one or two breeds then talk to several breeders. See if you can meet a few dogs, watch them work and interact with people, other animals and kids (if you have them).
A pointer fan doesn't always care for flushing dogs. You might want to spend a little more money and get a started dog, meaning a dog that's had some training and is not what the owner/trainer is looking for in a trial dog or as their own gundog. |
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My Brittanyis one of the so called versatile hunting breeds. She likes water, woods, fields ect but likes the couch more.
In fact, she only likes warm summer water, hates thorns, and could not find a bird on a bet. The dumb witch (sp)likes fishing more. Yuh know when this post isdone i'm gonna take her for a walk in the woods (wink wink) or maybe send her to the farm in the country. Not really... I would get rid of my 14 and 16 year old kids first.  Just remember that you buy a dog then the real work starts. Like a full time job to train a decent dog.. |
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We have to pull our field bred springers out of the field and water. They love it so much. They'd work themselves to death.
Planter is right when you get a pup the real work starts and it takes a couple of seasons for them to get the hang of things. If you don't have the time to invest in a pup's training. Save a little more cash and find a started dog. |
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I use a Yellow Lab Male...And will not have any other dog...however that does not mean it's the best dog, it just means it is the best dog for me...you need to find the dog that is best for you...of course I would tell you to get a Yellow Lab, but I from what I have read everyone believes in there dogs the same way...There are some days I hunt Ducks in the morning, dove mid-morning and quail after that...I can only handle one dog thats why I have a lab...I have tan carpet so the yellow hair is no problem...good luck in you search
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Lots of great info here to help you. Before I make a reccommendation, I have to ask, where are you going to do most of your hunting. Are you shooting ducks up north, ou know, Michigan, Canada, Wisconsin? Or are you somewhere warmer, down south? If you duck hunt more, and it is up north, then I think a Pointing Lab would be hard to beat. I have had many long cold days hunting ducks in Michigan and Canada, and that weather just wouldn't be fair to alot of dogs that are in and out of the water. If you plan to hunt more upland birds, and your waterfowl hunting will be done not as often, or down south, then look into a GSP. Suppossedly, they will do both, very well, point birds, and retreive them. I don't want to offend any Lab owners here, but Labs as a whole that I have seen, just don't have the same stamina, as a GSP, or the other pointing breeds to run birds all day. Same is said for the pointers, they might retreive, ut wil lthe go all day, in cold water like the labs, or Chesapeke Bay Retreivers.
Just ask yourself those questions. Where do I hunt most, and what do I hunt the most of. Then find your dog with that in mind. |
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I use my Jack Russels, there small but they are good at hunting Rabbit and Bird. I only took them hunting once.
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The besttreeratdog i ever had was a toy poodle my aunt had when i was a teenager.He stayed within sight and brought them back to me when i shot them out with a pellet gun ,he didnt bark at them just stood up on the tree and stared at them.got my bag limit with him quite often.I currently have britttanys and love them.They do shed, they run the yard now,my wifes much happier.I got a big wiem that sleeps beside my bed everynight,he sheds too but his hair is onlyabout a quarter-inch long.There are a lot of good breeds out there I wouldnt rule anything out.
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ORIGINAL: kdvollmer Lots of great info here to help you. Before I make a reccommendation, I have to ask, where are you going to do most of your hunting. Are you shooting ducks up north, ou know, Michigan, Canada, Wisconsin? Or are you somewhere warmer, down south? If you duck hunt more, and it is up north, then I think a Pointing Lab would be hard to beat. I have had many long cold days hunting ducks in Michigan and Canada, and that weather just wouldn't be fair to alot of dogs that are in and out of the water. If you plan to hunt more upland birds, and your waterfowl hunting will be done not as often, or down south, then look into a GSP. Suppossedly, they will do both, very well, point birds, and retreive them. I don't want to offend any Lab owners here, but Labs as a whole that I have seen, just don't have the same stamina, as a GSP, or the other pointing breeds to run birds all day. Same is said for the pointers, they might retreive, ut wil lthe go all day, in cold water like the labs, or Chesapeke Bay Retreivers. Just ask yourself those questions. Where do I hunt most, and what do I hunt the most of. Then find your dog with that in mind. i like lab but they do shed but not bad... lab DOES tire out quick, i agree with you on that.. they are not best dog but they do things so good all around and LISTEN well,that its hard to find a dog like them that do all things good.. my best bird dog is LEWELLIN SETTER. my best duck dog is LAB. my best all around dog is,SMALL LONG LEGGED LAB.... |
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There will never be a versital breed that is the best at anything. |
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