Williams firesight
 

Simple question I know.....But which firesight combo do yall use. The bead or the whole set. I have a Benelli SBE.

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I just picked one up and bolted it on last week. I know that most I've spoke to about the sight use both and swear by them.

I sighted mine in at the range for the first time recently and found that the front sight is too high. I run out of adjustment at the rear sight as a result of the high front bead.

So I now have a HiViz fiber optic front bead sight on the front and the Williams adjustable rear on the back. Looks good, less filling and the turkeys taste great. Less filling... tastes great... Williams sight, yup, it's all good.

RE: Williams firesight
 

Preciate it. So does the universal set($33) come with front and rear sites, and does the firesight bead($16) only come with the front bead and no rear sight.

Jollyarcher, why do u think u had trouble with the front sight being too high?

Thanks

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I've had a set on my 11-87 for a couple of yrs. and think they are great It's abit tricky to get them mounted on your rib straight but once you do you'll love em'

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I'm not sure on your first question, but I can tell you that my sights came in at $39.99 with both the front and rear sight units. There is no model number on the package... just the title, "Universal Vent Rib Slugger Shotgun Fire Sight Set" across the back. I would bet you're right though... and at $33 scoots for both, you're getting a real good deal.

As far as why I had trouble, yup, I can answer right away. I do not get down onto the stock as tight as most shotgun shooters. It's all in the way I shoot, which is not a problem per say, since I can hit anything as accurately as the next fellow, and certainly nothing wrong with the sights. It's just that I prefer to keep a high cheek off the comb of the stock... espeically with 3 1/2" shells... as they get to slamming the face / cheek bone area pretty hard. I've been bruised by them, and that ain't no fun. As a result, I run out of elevation and must use a lower profile front sight. Not a big deal really, and I've not seen a better rear sight than the Williams... yet anyway.

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preciate the great info and advice!

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Jollyarcher I had the same problem with a trueglo fiber optic sight that I put on my older model SBE. I always had trouble seeing the stock 2 small bead setup on the gun especially while looking through a camo vail. I figured the optic sights would work but I ran out of down adjusting room on the rear sight. Took them off and I guess I'll try a red dot. Any other suggestions?

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Next year I might be going to this on one of my turkey guns or my handgun (Ruger 454)
It's cost some money but a real sweet sight.

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I think I gotcha covered. If you were adjusting down with the rear, you would have been trying to move your point of impact down. Then you ran outta room to lower the rear sight as a result of striking the barrel rib. If you like the rear sight you have now, (the Truglo), all you really need is a taller front sight.

So far, I've not seen anything taller than the one that Williams makes, nor anything as well machined. The Williams is bright and offers a fine fiber bead that won't cover up your target. It gathers light like a sponge and I like it a great deal. I also think it's well worth the 40 bucks I paid for the front / rear sight kit... strong and solid.

Unfortunately for me, the Williams front sight was just the opposite from what you need... it was too tall and I ran out of adjustment moving the rear sight up. So, to cure my problem I have to use the low, stock front sight (with an aftermarket fiber I bought), combined with the Williams adjustable rear sight. This get's me on target nicely.

Matter of fact, I've got that Williams tall front sight, that will bolt onto any size rib, new, just sitting in the package. I bet it would be just what you need to zero your gun in.

I'll scarf MK-M-GOBL's pic of the Williams front and post it... (he posted it for me last week when I was looking for a good fixed sight), so you'll see what I mean, it's much taller than stock and MK's pic is a good clear image.



Hey BTW, MK - I know that Holo-sight well... I've shot one mounted to a Heckler & Koch MP5 and it's super fast. Both eyes open with no paralax issues. Big dulla unit... but it's high quailty and rugged too. You get what ya pay for in optics these days. Alas, I can't get the wife to let me go Rhino, so there's not a snowballs chance in the Bahama's that I'll be buying a Holo for my turkey taker. LOL. Mom always liked you best, didn't she. [8D]

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I'm not her favorite or spoiled, I'm just trying to get it all in now before my kid come along this April and puts a stop to it all[:o] I don't think I'll be telling her about this purchase. I've got a good friend that owns a sporting goods store, I'll just ask him if I could do a lay away plan or maybe a bady shower gift to my wife. More I thought about it tonight the more I wanted one. Might have to pay him a visit this weekend and see what exactly they cost. If I end up with one I don't want to hear it from you Jollyarcher! NOT ONE WORD

LMAOJust happen to look at my tube and saw what you wrote!You're a real character

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MK-M-GOBL what do the hologr sights go for? how large are they. it is difficult to get a scale from the picture but how does it compare to say a red dot type sight?
I guess I need to decide how to go forward to get ready for May 1. Thanks for the info jollyarcher. I might be asking more about your spare front site but the holographic concept is pretty cool. I like to keep my shotgun as light as possible because I hunt lots of hills and ridges and the walking is easier if you aren't carrying much weight. I never mind though as long as I have at least an extra 20 pounds in the rear of the vest on the way out.

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Ok MK, I won't say nuttin. (Yeah, right. LOL) Hey, is this your first bambino? I gotsa 12 year old and anutha 10... a first year turkey hunting for the oldest... gunna be fun! So, what was your little woman's name again? l'll send her an email, copied from here. LOL

Champion... decent holo's start from about $129 and go up. The one that MK speaks of the likely to be Bushnell's Generation III model, which retails right around $279 and the Gov'ner. They are the biggest of the bunch, and very well received both in hunting and law enforcement. As far as the term "big" being misleading here, in that holo's are the smallest of lens optics on the market. Even smaller than the smallest compact pistol scopes.

As far as hefty, the holo is not going to be a weight issue, as there is very little to them. The only bad thing I could see is that it is electronic and for me, with my luck, (which is none to bad), the dang thing probably wouldn't turn on. There could be a ka-zillion of them made, all flawless except one... and guess who's get that one. Uh, that would be ME. [:o][:@][&o] So I stick with fixed sights, no batteries, no switches, no outta zero, no fuss no muss. Murphy's Law follows me around at the worst possible times doncha ya know.

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Champlain Islander- I'll know more tomorrow when I head up to the shop. I called him this morning and asked what they go for (the newer model) and he said around $210. I'm not sure if him and I were thinking the same sight or if he's giving me a deal:D I'll post a pic and quote of one that another friend of mine has on his gun and maybe it will help you out with getting and idea of the size. His turkey gun is SWEEEEEEET!

Jollyarcher- This will be our first and we're getting pretty excited about it;) I'm not to happy with my timing of this whole having a baby thing. Her due date is April 28th which is two days before VT and 5 days before NH[:o] Hoping for either two weeks early or a month late[8D] You musted be real pump being your kids first year out? I can't wait for that day to come for me when I can pass down my hunting knowledge (what little I have:eek: Hope you both have an AWESOME season and you'll have to share that first gobbler with us:D


As far as my wifes name? You'ld be the last one to know:D You would blackmail me for all my hunting toys[8D]

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Who... me? Awe, now MK, you know golly 'dern well I would do no such thing! Uh, ummm... her name's Mary ain't it? LOL. Boy, I hope I'm wrong... wouldn't want ya thinking I was a spy or sumpin'... :D Lemme see, MK's house... go to the fork in the road, next to the big red oak tree, then turn left... watch for that flat big rock... [8D]

That certainly is a nice looking rig your buddy has there. It looks like it was made specifically for the gun with the matching camo applied. I've been a fan of the holo style sights since their introduction. One of their best features is that the aiming dot need not be centered in the objective lens to hit your intended target. We all have been in shooting situations where we've been in a less than perfect physical position... off balance, leaning hard the wrong way, all bent up from needing to twist this way or that... you know what I mean.

The holo sight allows the shooter to acquire the target in any posistion, regardless of where the aiming point is within the scope housing and still hit point of aim. Not to mention that the sight profile is slim and the whle unit is relatively small in stature. The electronics are very sound and can take the repetitive punishment of both shotguns and centerfire weapony alike.

I have used the Bushnell Holo's on that little MP5, on a .45 caliber UMP, and on up to the heavier GK36K rifle. They are both quick and accurate. I'm just gald I didn't have to pay for them. LOL. A few buddies of mine use similar holo's on their race pistols, known as the C-More shooting system... http://www.rushusa.com/html/products/c-more.html

They function much the same way as the Bushnell Holo mentioned above.

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I know exactly what you mean[:@] That's the number one reason I'm getting it;) I think it would go great on either my turkeys gun or handgun. Those C-more sights you posted! I think I've seen them at the sport club we belong to. If I see the same guy at our silhouette shoots this summer I'll have to ask him about it. Maybe that's what my wife needs on her 9mm if she's allowed to shoot IDPA with one.