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Sc0rp10n 01-28-2004 08:16 PM

completely new to turkey hunting...no idea where to start...
 
hi all. i have absolutely no idea how to get started here. i've been deer hunting for many many years and i know we have alot of turkey on our lease. once i saw 22 turkey walk through a food plot i was hunting. problem is, i'm hardly ever in the woods in march-may. i don't really know how to get started...

is there any scouting i can do now (late january - early february) that will help me out?

what types of areas should i plan to hunt? cutover? deep woods?

are there any good turkey hunting books aimed to the beginner?

i have no idea how to call. i would need an instructional video or CD. any good ones for beginners?

thanks for any help you can give a beginner here. thanks.

.308 Swar 01-28-2004 08:47 PM

RE: completely new to turkey hunting...no idea where to start...
 
hello, I too was new to turkey hunting this year. Here is what i have been doing. I have ordered 4 books on it , i now have 7 calls ( 3 mouth, 3 friction, 1 box) You need to find what call you like and what you can do best with, you will also learn that not one call will get that big tom, it can take several. i am askig alot of questions about it on here as well. The guys on here will help you out. I also have 3 videos. One on mouth calls the others on just hunting. YOu need to learn the sonds to make on your calls and the only way to do this is by listening to them on videos since you have never hunted them befor how will you know what sounds to make. I keep my mouth calls in my truck and when ever i am on the road i am cluckin, yelpin and cuttin a way. I also practice with my friction and other calls i have. Practice now and start reading now so you are ahead of the game . GO to amazon.com and type in "turkey hunting" many books will come up read the reviews people have left to find out what ones others like.


Again read, get videos, and ask questions...that is how i started and i am learning a hell of a lot. The true test wil be when you get into the woods and try it all out. I cant wait. Also, see if there is anyone on this board that lives near you. I am sure someone would love to come show you how to call in that big tom.
I hope i have helped.

.308

p.s use the search section as well on this board

turkeyhunter_15 01-28-2004 08:51 PM

RE: completely new to turkey hunting...no idea where to start...
 
Ok, Books, Ik To Of, The Complete Hunter Wild Turkey An The Complete Hunter
Advanced Turkey Hunting, Good Books, Good Starter call i say is Primos Lil Hart Breaker, Ummmm, If Cabelas,Gander Mt,Bass Pro, Near By, They have videos on how to use, mouth,box,slate (pot peg) About March Drive around look for them, Stop here and there and call,Walk In woods look for scrathing and feathers,
Go out early before light maybey even hear putts, yelps, fly downs.
Good Luck.:) p.s Can Never have TO many calls

jepcho 01-28-2004 08:56 PM

RE: completely new to turkey hunting...no idea where to start...
 
Hi. I have been hunting for 5 years now and have learned ALOT!!! in those years. I still have much more to learn as well. First off. I would start with 2 calls. One, a box call, and secondly get a friction call of some sort. H.S. Strut sells them with videos. Learn how to yelp, cluck, and purr for now. Hopefully the hens will be talking and you can try to mimic them. Like me in my first year, the first year will be all about learning and trust me, you'll get hooked. Then next off season you'll learn to mouth call and pretty soon you will have dozens of calls and know how to use them all. At least thats how it went with me. I didn't know anything my first year, It was all about learning, and maybe if you get lucky like I did, You'll get a big Tom to within 30 yards........Maybe you will get even luckier and hit it!!!! If you have any questions and would like to know more or just get to know another hunter, just Email me.

MOTurkeyTamer 01-28-2004 09:28 PM

RE: completely new to turkey hunting...no idea where to start...
 
Hi Sc0rp10n!
Just hang around this place for about the next 3 months and you'll learn more about turkey hunting than you can imagine. Welcome to the board and good luck this spring!:)

6pt125lbs 01-28-2004 09:29 PM

RE: completely new to turkey hunting...no idea where to start...
 
hey scorp same here first year but have learnd alot from the internet o turkey hunting try this site out www.turkeyhuntingsecrets.com they have all kindas of great info but right now look for scratches if ur a deer hunter look for what looks like a scrape but not as deep as a scrape me myself i think turkeys are found of the pine/hardwoods kinda woods kinda thick but not to brushy b/c they have to move around in it so think about that and just get out there and listen early in the mornings bout sunrise listen for hens or some gobbling maybe that should kick ouff here in not to long but definatly check out that site:D;) make for sure u enter in our turkey hunting contest just make a post that says i wanna enter or something like that:D good luck to ya

Gobbling Buck 01-28-2004 09:40 PM

RE: completely new to turkey hunting...no idea where to start...
 
First off, welcome to the board and to turkey hunting. You'll find that is truely addictive.[:-] This will be my third year turkey hunting, but I have hunted for deer and small game for 25 years or so. My advise would be to watch some turkey hunting videos, get a few calls (box, slate, push button, mouth calls), continue to read the posts on this board, try to find some old timers in your area that have turkey hunted, scout your land for sign and open areas where birds will like to strut, feed, dust, etc, then practice.

On the calls, start out with the basics. Learn to yelp, purr, and cluck. I recomend to get comfortable with one or two calls and then practice some more. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A CHAMPION CALLER. Hope that relieves some of the pre season stress.:D Get a good locater call. I like my primos hammerin' crow. I rely on knowing where most of the birds I hunt are roosting and if they're not there, its too late in the morning for an owl hoot anyway, so I'll use the crow call. The most important thing I rely on is good woodmanship. If you know your terrain, when to move, how to move quietly, and how to make yourself invisible, these things will more than make up for a lack of calling knowledge. Another thing, don't over call. Turkey hunting is like picking up chicks......your the hen play hard to get, the tome will respond better if you don't over call to him. Call enough to keep his attention and he's more likely to come to your call. Call too much and he expects the hen to show up. Most of all, have fun and learn from your mistakes. :D

RIStrutStopper 01-28-2004 10:36 PM

RE: completely new to turkey hunting...no idea where to start...
 
Welcome to the boards. First off, since there is so much to learn, you should invite me to come hunt on your lease and I'll show you what you need to do... Seriously, I wish I had this board and the internet when I first started. There is a wealth of information available, and then you have the boards to ask questions on.
There's no substitute for experience though, and I'm still kind of new at this, learning all the time.

Sorry RIStrut ,This is not aimed toward you,,, Your link was removed because the Guy is banned from this site. Any spam aim toward him will be removed...BT

wholelottagobble 01-28-2004 10:59 PM

RE: completely new to turkey hunting...no idea where to start...
 
My best advice is to never go to the woods, because after that first gobble your gonna be hooked for life. You may think I am kidding but just wait, you'll be spending countless hours in the woods and dollars in the stores like the rest of us. I am just kidding of course because you just picked the greastest sport in the world to start. If at all possible, find someone who could and is willing to go with you and maybe call some so you can hear him. I hunted 4 years without much help before I called in my first bird. But once you learn how and when to call it's not that hard. I called in 2 more that week of my first one for friends. You'll learn but it always helps to find a sort of mentor.

wholelottagobble 01-28-2004 11:02 PM

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Also, I forgot to say that no matter what books anyone tells you to get, Tom Foolery 2000 by Earl Groves is the greatest turkey hunting book ever. Its not only informative but interesting. He has killed over 300 mature gobblers and has the beards to prove it. He is one of the oldtimers that started the NWTF and is truly a legend in turkey hunting. FIND THIS BOOK AND GET IT!!!

determined 01-28-2004 11:29 PM

RE: completely new to turkey hunting...no idea where to start...
 
moturkeytamer hit it on the head,if you follow this board the next few months you will learn more info on turkey hunting tactics and the gear to hunt them that you might not find in any book or video.i credit the people on this board that made my first hunt last year a success.read books,watch videos,practice your calls,sight your gun,if your lucky you might get one shot,very important.i chose to be self taught,im hardheaded that way.what i did was hunt on private land self guided so i had no hunting pressure and put myself in land with a good turkey population so i could hunt and learn without distractions.good luck and hunt safe.

barefoot 01-29-2004 04:41 AM

RE: completely new to turkey hunting...no idea where to start...
 
Ont thing about turkey hunting is that it will teach you humility and patience. Time is going to be your best teacher. You will find that on some days, NOBODY could get that bird to come in and on the next day (maybe), he will come running to just about any ol squawk. You'll NEVER figure these birds out completely! But you're gonna have the time of your life trying. Hang in there! If a turkey can find a way to make a fool of you, he probably will. There is a book called "the Flaming Turkey" by Robert Hitt-Neill that is a must read for turkey hubters. It is NOT meant to be instructional, but Bob has eloquently put into words what ALL of us go through in our pursuit of these magnificent creatures.

I don't know where you're hunting, but start scouting about a month before your season. DO NOT CALL TO ANY TURKEY DURING THIS TIME!!! In fact it would be best to LEAVE YOUR CALLS AT HOME while you're out scouting. Get there before daylight and listen for gobbling and the flydown. DON'T BUMP THEM! Be patient and try to figure out where they roost, where he likes to fly down (this may not be the same direction every day, but he'll probably have his 'druthers' on where he flies down). Determine the best route to get to him. Locate SEVERAL birds in different areas. Break in your boots! Do some walking and look for tracks, dusting areas, scratches, feathers, and the birds themselves. Try to figure out their travel patterns. Be a ghost while scouting. Be VERY careful not to bump a bird if you can possibly avoid it. Also know that their behavior will change throughout the spring. They are almost a completely diffirent animal during deer season

On hunting day, get there early and try to set up about 75 to 100 yards away from him. Since you're brand new, I'd advise you to call painfully little. And keep them basic. Use soft clucks and purrs mostly with an occaisional yelp thrown in. They can hear better than you think. You'll have to 'take his temperature' and figure out how much calling he wants. It is much easier to build uo to this than to undo too aggressive calling too early. Remember that you're going against nature. Normally the hen goes to the Tom. You have to get his hormonal blood boiling and get him to do something stupid like come to you. Expect the unexpected. They will gobble constantly on the limb and shut up when they fly down and come in silent. They will gobble their danged fool heads off and not budge beyond a particular spot, frustrating you to no end (if you listen closely, you can hear them laughing at you). They may come in silent and then gobble right behind you and give you a heart attack! They'll circle. They'll peek out from behind a tree, peek up over a bush or a ridge. They are diabolical little critters that will go to the ends of the earth to make a fool out of you!! Never forget that!! They are God's way of teaching you to laugh at yourself.

The best advice I ever got, and I've been hunting these critters for close to 25 years, is to hunt with as many different people as you can who have killed turkeys. Pay attention and learn something from each one of them. There's no way that we can tell you everything here, but you have enough to get started, now. The one thing you NEVER want to forget to do, however, is to have fun! These birds will frustrate you to no end, and if it ain't fun, it ain't worth doin'!

loner 01-29-2004 05:04 AM

RE: completely new to turkey hunting...no idea where to start...
 
i am not familar with your neck of the country,but i will give you some basics.
1] scout the area for scratchings,droppings,feathers and dusting areas.
2]look in areas where there is water for roosts trees[creeks,bottom etc.
3]when you think you know where they sleep and travel ,you are ready
4]a few days prior to the spring season,get to a high point before daylight and listen for gobbling.they will gobble on the roost before flying down.
5]make a mental note of travel route and obstructions such as fences,thickets,river,creek etc.
6]do not call to the birds!
7]once you have done your homework,get in place within 200 yards of the roosting birds before daylight preferably,on east side of roost.
8]when it begins to get light, the birds will begin to talk,use simple soft yelp to let them know where you are.gobbler should begin to sound off when other birds start talking
9]have total camo including face and hands and gun in position to get on the bird when they fly down
10]use mouth call or push pin yelper when bird can be seen so as not to be seen moving your hands while calling
11]practice with different calls prior to the season opener.i would recommend a box call and push pin yelper for a beginner.get an instructioal tape and learn the basics and don't try to be an expert on your first hunt.PATIENCE is the most important factor with no movenent when you can see the gobbler.
good luck!
http://www.vaturkey.com/sounds.htm

ironranger 01-29-2004 08:10 AM

RE: completely new to turkey hunting...no idea where to start...
 
Welcome to the turkey woods!! I am not an expert by any means but will tell you a few things that have helped me. I started hunting them back about 1985 and had no clue what I was doing out there. I made alot of mistakes and the birds never seemed to appear when I was calling. I'm more of a run & gun type but am learning to be more patient and sit longer...especially after calling. I've called from one spot and then decided to move only to have a gobbler spook that was coming in silent. So, when you call from a spot, wait at 20 to 30 minutes before moving on as a gobbler may come in silent. Also, I've killed alot more birds with clucks and purrs than yelps. Example-I saw two gobblers strutting in a pasture and so I snuck around a bluff, down a logging road on the backside, and got into the pasture. I poked up over a rise slowly to see the top of one fanned out about 50 yards from me. I backed off, got my vest off, and crawled up with a slate in hand and my gun. I yelped on the slate and got a response so I got the gun up. There was only about 2" of grass in that pasture so I had to be ready if he came over the hill. Nothing came so I yelped again and he gobbled in the same place. I did this a few times but no change in position. So then I switched to a few soft clucks and a purr. Suddenly he gobbled closer so I got the gun up. He came over the hill and I shot him at about 8 paces. Another bird in Wisconsin did the same thing...yelps would make him answer but he wouldn't come any closer. Then I clucked softly and he came in.
Forget that calling you see on TV. They keep yelping to get the birds to gobble for the camera but in reality, I don't think you need to call nearly that much. Once a bird knows you are there, he won't forget. Even if he goes off to mate with a hen he may still show up later in the morning. Staying put for a whole morning and having the patience to do so can pay off for you too. If your lease isn't that big then I'd suggest building a blind in a good location (Where they strut or near water source) and setting up there. If you have limited amounts of land you don't want to go kicking the birds off the property by moving around too much. One tip that I can give about using decoys that worked for me was to put the jake right on top of the hen to make it look as if he is ready to mount her. Last spring, I took a buckwing jake decoy and put it over a hen. I took the stake out of her and put her right on the ground which is natural when they are ready to mate. That gobbler will jump up on her back when she is sitting down on the ground, step on her repeatedly, and then they mate. So anyway, I had a gobbler come in from the side of the jake, walk up, and stomp on my jake. His next stop was the dinner table. Also, remember that you don't necessarily have to use decoys to kill turkeys. It helps to divert their attention away from you but it can also make a gobbler hang up on you. I've had that happen more often than not as where I hunt they get alot of pressure. I've killed more birds without decoys than with them and I think it's more of a challenge to do so since that bird is looking for you and you have to get the gun up without them seeing you. Well, I'm rambling so hope this make at least some sense...

Fullback24 01-29-2004 09:37 AM

RE: completely new to turkey hunting...no idea where to start...
 
Turn back while you still aren't too far gone!! This stuff is contagious as siphlis.

troyandmarsha 01-29-2004 12:35 PM

RE: completely new to turkey hunting...no idea where to start...
 
- patience
- dress warm so you don't fidget because of being cold -- very minimal movement
- camo to the max, all over
- patience
- ask questions
- know what your gun will do and not do and act accordingly
- patience
- practice your technique
- patience

HenTalker 01-29-2004 03:37 PM

RE: completely new to turkey hunting...no idea where to start...
 
Your best learning turkey talk from the masters. Go to www.treetopturkeys.com under "Basic Turkey Calls"

Mo Hunter 01-29-2004 05:25 PM

RE: completely new to turkey hunting...no idea where to start...
 
Take a look at http://www.hunting101.com/smallgame/...dTurkey001.htm

Quite a bit of reading there, hold ya over for a little while.


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