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neb 02-08-2024 09:30 AM

Decoys or no Decoys
 
I'm sure it has been discussed here many times with the experienced hunters here on this site. But what is your view and experience of using decoys. I know there is a time and place for them but I have had as good or better success not using decoys and just calling.

What would be the biggest benefit using them?

Wingbone 02-09-2024 01:50 AM

I tend to use them early in the season. But later in the season, when they've been tempted and educated by the 2-hens-and-a-jake hunters, I don't use them much. Besides, where I hunt, because of the late season leaves obscuring the view, they couldn't see the decoy until they're in range anyway.

Oldtimr 02-09-2024 03:52 AM

I use one because it gives the tom something to see and hone in on after he hears the call.

excalibur43 02-09-2024 06:00 AM

Sometimes I use them, sometimes I don't. It just depends on the situation and the set up area for me.

neb 02-10-2024 04:22 AM

Thanks, for your input and I guess there are times I should use start using them again. One advantage I feel that has done me well using a decoy is the focal point when a bird does come in. I do think it helps to distract them from you. bow hunt them so it is even more important to be inconspicuous.

CalHunter 02-12-2024 05:20 PM

It depends some on your hunting area. I usually hunt rolling grasslands on a cattle ranch with lots of open terrain and spread out oak trees. Toms can see my decoys from several hundreds of yards away and it's fun to watch them approach. If I hunt the parts of the ranch with denser trees, then I don't use decoys. For me, it just depends on what terrain I'm hunting.

Ridge Runner 02-13-2024 07:56 AM

never worked for me unless you want to shoot them 50+ yards, they would come in till they saw the decoy, strut and gobble a few minutes. when the hen did not go to thee gobbler, he'd just turn aand walk away gobbling.

JW 02-13-2024 12:22 PM

I use them in just about every setup I hunt.
Decoys can be very effective.
My decoys are never more than 7 to 10 steps in front of me. I se my decoys in such a way as i can virtually put that Tom exactly where you want it.
I have used foam, motion, hard body, half shells, strutting Toms, jakes and various hen postures.
I try to mimic what I see really flocks look like.
I dabbled in strutting toms before they ever hit the market.
I don't hunt with out them. For the people i take eith me in doring i i troduce them to Turkey porn as they witness my decoys beingbrsped and molested.
I do agree there us a time and place to use them
But I'd rather sit a decoy spread and then adapt yo what I see


JW


CalHunter 02-13-2024 10:16 PM

RR, I agree that decoys don't always work. That's hunting. :D When i use decoys, I also use a popup blind and set them in a known travel corridor for the ranch I hunt. It doesn't always work but I have got some big toms out of it. Back in 2022, I bought one of those skinny chicken jake decoys (see picture at link below). Less than 5 minutes into calling, a tom ran up to my jake and tried to beat the snot out of him. It was rally fun to watch and I wish I had video of it. I was in a blind so was able to enjoy the show before shooting the tom. Since then, I use the decoy just to see what will happen.


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Ridge Runner 02-15-2024 02:44 AM

they may work at times, my preferred method of hunting has always been run and gun, walk and call, walk and call, when a gobbler responds, take cover and work him to within range and shoot him in the face! Has beeen successful for 50 years. Dance with the one that brung ya!

Timbrhuntr 02-15-2024 06:05 AM

Years ago I started using a single Tom strutter that I made myself. I found through experience that if I found a dominant Tom in a field or area that he seemed to be guarding if I slipped in and put the stutter in the field when he wasn’t there he would come on a string. After doing this for awhile in every state I went to (over twenty )it was getting so easy I decided to change tactics and leave the Tom for bow hunting. In the beginning I never talked about this on forums. I should add back then I new several older guys from Georgia that used to fan but never talked about it . Anyway a few years later I think primos did some shows with a taxi stutter prior to putting out the mobile b I believe it was called . Well the trick was out lol

CalHunter 02-15-2024 11:50 AM

RR, I'll admit that run n gun is my favorite method. Stalking a tom by slipping from tree to tree, sneaking up behind any small rise or crawling through any depression or behind brush is an absolute blast.

JW 02-16-2024 08:30 AM

I agree RR. I wish I was able to Run And Gun. But I'm not able to hunt that way anymore. Crippled fingers, busted back. So I searched for ways to keep me going. Rather locate and cut the distance down by going to them. Now. I locate and put a stake in the ground and declare come to me! Some long waits at times.

Jw

Timbrhuntr 02-16-2024 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by JW (Post 4414889)
I agree RR. I wish I was able to Run And Gun. But I'm not able to hunt that way anymore. Crippled fingers, busted back. So I searched for ways to keep me going. Rather locate and cut the distance down by going to them. Now. I locate and put a stake in the ground and declare come to me! Some long waits at times.

Jw

sometimes the best piece of equipment for turkey hunting is a comfy chair but not too comfy! Sucks waking up to putting Tom just leaving because your snort spooked him !

Ridge Runner 02-17-2024 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by JW (Post 4414889)
I agree RR. I wish I was able to Run And Gun. But I'm not able to hunt that way anymore. Crippled fingers, busted back. So I searched for ways to keep me going. Rather locate and cut the distance down by going to them. Now. I locate and put a stake in the ground and declare come to me! Some long waits at times.

Jw

know how that is JW, since my bout with pneumonia in 2019 my running is about 200 yards from my truck, last fall I thought I would die carrying out a gobbler when I forgot my inhaler. Fortunately I have places where from experience I know there is a gobbler within 200 yards of my truck when I shut it off, and it is fairly easy walking. Still a struggle at times.

CalHunter 02-20-2024 02:58 PM

Sorry to hear about the physical problems JW and RR. I definitely can feel your pain. I have back and leg issues and am trying to rehab both. I wish both of you well with your respective health issues.

Ridge Runner 02-20-2024 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by CalHunter (Post 4414960)
Sorry to hear about the physical problems JW and RR. I definitely can feel your pain. I have back and leg issues and am trying to rehab both. I wish both of you well with your respective health issues.

well the turkeys think they can breathe easier when i'm gone, but they need to beware of the ones I have taught! Its been a good ride.

Champlain Islander 02-21-2024 10:02 AM

I have had mixed results using decoys. Some times they see the decoy and come in like they are on a rope and other times they take one look ....putt and blow out of town. I tend to run and gun so more often I just don't have time to get decoys set up.

Phil from Maine 02-25-2024 06:38 AM

I am sorry to hear about all you folks with the health issues. I am pretty much in the same boat with a knee that was scoped years back acting up. In October of 2022 I had back surgery with mixed results. However the doc did say that it would help me walking somewhat even though the pain may not go away. That’s that and a fight with cancer (2015-2016) that gives me coughing fits at times. I guess it is better than the alternative anyways. But it doesn’t stop me from trying to do what I like to enjoy. My last bird was similar to the run and gun. Only I drive a pipeline/powerline and will stop along areas where I have seen turkeys before. I would use my pot call and see if I can get a response. If so I will look for a place to park and then walk back to where he was and try to get him to come out. Last year my last bird took an hour and a half to get him out. No decoys and only calling when the wise bird would respond. I also some times just walk into an area that’s easy walking and set up with hopes of drawing one out with a submissive hen and a Jake.. It mostly depends on the mood they are in I guess. But those pipeline/powerlines can be tough as others drive by at times. So it’s still a challenge..

WV 67 02-25-2024 08:23 AM

Never had any luck with a decoy , I gave all of mine away , I do carry just a fan , and it works great , ( private land only) I’m not talking reaping if a gobbler hangs up in sight but is to far I ease the fan up and just twist it left to right , once he sees it more times than not he comes on in

Ridge Runner 02-25-2024 10:16 AM

must be that turkeys are just different, I know in central ky. everyone uses decoys, but I had no trouble killing them there without decoys,, they do act different and you get busted a lot by single hens that come charging the call. When you find a hen with a gobbler in tow, ya just wait till the gobbler comes in following the hen and gets close enough for a shot.

car 03-29-2024 02:54 AM

I bought an Avian X HDR Jake decoy this week to add to the 2 Avian hens that I have. See what happens!

Oldtimr 03-29-2024 02:47 PM

I like a hen decoy to take the gobbler's attention away from me.

JW 04-01-2024 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by Timbrhuntr (Post 4414894)
sometimes the best piece of equipment for turkey hunting is a comfy chair but not too comfy! Sucks waking up to putting Tom just leaving because your snort spooked him !

I you sit out in the open, yes the snort will affect the outcome. But I find sitting in my blind I can holler the Gettysburg address with no adverse effects.
It's the human form not the sound.

I screw with every hen or jake(s) that wander in my setups. It teaches me just how much I can get away with.

JW

marquesgriffin 04-11-2024 11:32 PM

Decoys can be a valuable tool for hunters, but knowing when to use them is key. While calling can be effective, decoys offer some distinct advantages. The biggest benefit is their ability to attract animals from farther distances. A realistic decoy can pique an animal's curiosity or trigger its social instincts, drawing it in where your calls alone might not. Additionally, decoys can keep an animal occupied, giving you more time to remain still and hidden for a clean shot. However, remember that successful decoy use requires careful strategy and placement depending on the species you're hunting.


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