hi,

after giving it much thought i decided i couldnt bring myself to spend 20 dollars on a box of longbeard xr. so i decided to go after winchester super x. DO NOT CONFUSE WITH WINCHESTER DOUBLE X, I THOUGHT ABOUT DOUBLE X AT FIRST BUT MY LOCAL STORE ONLY CARRIES 5 SHOT IN DOUBLE X. so my question is, does anybody use winchester super x. what was your experience. how does it pattern. and is their a better low cost load than super x that i dont know about. i will be shooting 3 inch 4 shot

thanks in advance

well i have not used that ammo but i can recomend some other ammo but imo shotguns are like finger prints in that none of them shoot the same ammo the same way ..i have used nitro turkey in 4s and 5s but my modified liked 5s better i believe they are 10 bucks or so i have used winchester supreme in 4 shot and it liked it i think when i bought them they were 12 bucks.. but i hope this helps in some way

thanks, i know i would probably be ok shootin 5s but i always feel a little underguned with em

That is all I hunt turkeys with is the Winchester Super x Supreme because of getting the 2oz load in either 4s or 5s.. I am currently thinking of trying to locate it with number 6 shot..

I am a big believer in using #4Pb shot for Turkey. A very inexpensive, but good patterning 12ga load is Remington® NITRO-TURKEY™ 3" Mag 1210fps 1⅞oz #4Pb (#NT12H4)

I used the winchester for years in 5s good shell killed birds at 50+ yards. I now shoot the Hevi Mag blend or Hevi str8 5s I get better patterns and have killed birds at distances many of the forum members would have a panic attack if I told you.

Before yesterday morning I woulda argued with you about using common, "hi brass" game loads for turkeys vs the heavier, turkey specific stuff! (See my post "Ol boss falls for ol school gun)

I've hunted turkeys for nearly 30yrs and worked in the hunting/fishing retail biz off and on for the first 20 of those years. I saw the rise of the "turkey biz" with regards to guns, loads, chokes etc... Before yesterday the SMALLEST load I'd ever shot at turkeys was 3" 6s an occasional 4 and my preference was 5s when talking about 3" guns and plated lead shot. Then came the 3.5" guns and soon the harder than lead shot varieties came out and soon 60+yd shots WERE possible. (My 835Mossy with 3.5" triplex Nitro hevishots will put 12-15 pellets in a 12oz drink can at 65yds EVERYTIME! My 3.5" 870 with Nitros is barely behind that as well.)

BUT this year I wanted to carry my grandfathers nearly 100yr old Stevens 520 pump gun out and kill a bird. It's a 30" Full (mics VERY tight in fact) and I just didn't want to risk even plated shot in it, nevermind the heavier than lead substitutes in it. So I picked a "decent" load, a simple box of Super X High Brass 2.75" 1.25oz #6s. The big bird CRUMPLED yesterday at 37steps as fast and hard as ANY of the 30+ I've shot over the years with anything else. Winchester makes those 2.75" Super X's in 1 3/8oz & 1.5oz offerings as well. I'd like to see what they pattern like in my old Stevens as well. For $10-$15 per 25shot box you can sure afford to play around with them moreso than the $5+ per shot turkey rounds out there. (And essentially all of the lead turkey loads are plated hard shot to begin with so I wouldn't try them in the old gun anyway)

Test, test, test... but one thing I learned long ago from seeing it first hand in the biz, you CAN try to cram to much shot down a super tight choke. When you get up into the 1.75-2+ oz range, ESPECIALLY with the heavy shot type metals, you'd be surprised how sometimes DECREASING choke size will actually IMPROVE the pattern. But again, that just varies by gun and like I said, TEST, TEST, TEST!

I see Hornady even has some nickel plated shot out now with a "new gizmo shotcup/wad" in it designed to work and actually recommended to work better in IC and Mod tubes vs Full+...

100% agreed!!! I have my Win Super X2 with just my regular Briley Ext. Ported Imp. Mod trapshooting tube and it outshoots my $80 Hevi-Shot tube by far out to 60yds with 3.5" Hevi-Shot 6's!!!! Just spend the time on the bench n paper and find out what makes them tick, not what a buddies brothers friends uncle claims works for him.

If there high brass loads and pattern ok you should be fine... But win HV turkey lads aren't that expensive and would be a much better choice why not us them?

Patterning your gun will out do any opinion. That being said, ammunition is often the least expensive part of a hunting trip.

Go with what works best, but dont shy away from a box of turkey loads that runs less than a tank of gas.