Hevi-13 6's or 7's would be the better shot choice. Take your pick. Both will easily kill one at 50yds. 7's will have more multiple hits, but 6's will hit with more authority and punch.

I think where are opinions differ is needing 100 pellets to be effective now we have come down to a 1 shot size difference we have gone from 7s vs 5s to 6s vs 5s. There is little difference in KE vs pattern density I personally like the added KE of 5s vs the difference in pellet counts.
Yes you will get more pellets with 6s and even more with 7s so a logical compromise between us would be 6s and your effective range would meet somewhere in the middle.

I goes back to simply a differing of opinion on the number of pellets needed to effectively take a turkey my argument was any distance one would shoot w 7s that 5s still provide a dense enough pattern. If you suggest 6s for me to dispute would be tough as we are talking one pellet size. Personally I have always had great results w 5s and enjoy the added energy.

It still goes back to u may hit it 300 times at 40 yards and 100 times at 50 where as I hit it 150 times at 40 and 75 at 50 you killed te bird every time at those ranges 100 pellets in its head didnt make it any more dead than the 50. I think that is the root of our argument you have an obsession with pellet count and I don't think u need that many to still have 100% effective pattern we aren't talking nwtf scoring we are talking killing turkeys.

On that note take your 10 inch circle lets say I hit it 10x at 70 yards that not very good but I'm giving u the benefit of the doubt all 10 of those pellets could kill that bird this is only for argument sake not advocating it. Now lets take 7s and say we hit the same circle 30 times but 0 of them have the energy to kill the turkey. Your better odds would still be with the larger shot even if those odds are not high.

It comes down to at 50 and in even though u hit it with more pellets I still kill it just as often as you. Yes 7s give u a better pattern but at some point you can't make it more dead these are turkeys not paper targets. Its a simple principal of 7s result in 0 more dead turkeys.

Well it's a give and take choice. 5's is out of the question since your going to have way less than even 80 hits in the 10" at 50yds. A great shoting shotgun and choke might muster up 80 hits in the 10" at that distance with a Hevi-13 5 load. But that's a big might. I like the 7's over the 6's due to the fact that both of my turkey guns pattern the 7's so much better than with the 6's. On the 835 I can go from 180 to maybe 200 hits with the 6's to 300 hits or more with the 7's. That's a huge difference from using the exact same weight load. So that is why I use them. I have seen the destruction at 50yds that a 3" 2oz load Hevi# 7's will do. And really 50yds is about as far as I care to shoot one. 55yds would be about the upper limit I would want to push it to lethally kill one. And that's getting out there a good ways when you lay the tape measure for someone to consistently kill one.

You keep talking about hitting 50 in the head at 50yds. Your not going to hit the bird with 50 in the head using 5's. And even if your gun will put let's say 60 pellets in the 10" at 50yds with the 5's, that's like saying about 50/50 on your chances of killing the bird. You may kill one 3 times in a roll, and the next 3 you won't. I like the 100 in the 10" that way you know there won't be any surprises.

Put 50 pellets in a 10 inch circle and then draw a turkey brain neck and spine its not getting away 1 out of 3 times I have killed many in the 45-55 yard range and exactly 0 have gotten through the pattern and I used to shoot lead 4s before hevi shot. Although i don't agree with everything RR posts I do agree with you sometimes take something you read or believe to be true with way to much as this is the absolute rule.

BG I am not some 16 year old that learned all I know about turkeys on the internet. And I know you aren't implying that. I'm staring 48 in the face come next September. Hunted turkeys all my life. When I squeeze the trigger I don't want to hope. I want to know. Is the 100 inside 10 inches an absolute? No, it's a reference point. It's not like 102 will kill them and they will walk off laughing if you are only getting 99. It's just a reference point but a good one. If you are getting 50 inside 10 at a given distance you can kill turkeys with that. But how many times out of 10 will it work out well for you? All I can tell you is some of those times it won't. And that is all I need to know.

Well then your on your own. I tried to help, but you got to much RR in you it seems.

And you have lol Im actually considering coming up with a blend of 5s and 6s at least a step in your direction even if its a small one.

Well I'm gonna go out of my way and show you something since you are skeptical about the Hevi-13 6's or 7's.

Now I have heard a few guys that say they heard this ammo is going to be discontinued. But I can't say for sure. I think I even sent this to you in a pm. But find a gun and choke that will shoot this load to 200 shot or maybe 220 in a 10" at 40yds, and no turkey that walks will escape its wrath at 50yds to maybe even 55yds. It will out penetrate a lead 4 due to its weight and hardness of 15g/cc.



http://www.midwayusa.com/product/487...l-wad-box-of-5

You would upgrade your turkey load tremendously over the Hevi-13 5's if you can get this to provide the patterns I mentioned. But this stuff likes a nonported choke or at least that the census from most guys that shoot it.