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Traveling Fur Hunter 02-27-2013 02:32 PM

Crow locator call and stalking
 
I have a crow call for locating, and I was wondering if after I locate one can I stalk it, or are they too frisky?

w123t 02-27-2013 02:59 PM

They are as you say very frisky, excellent hearing
And vision. Biggest consideration thou is safety
Unless you are positive you are the only one
Hunting the area---this would be very dangerous.

Traveling Fur Hunter 02-27-2013 03:16 PM

Does the call I make have do be perfect, or will it make them gobble if its a little off? I am going to hunt the spring season, so what kind of attraction call do I need?

RockyMtnGobblers 02-27-2013 05:42 PM

You can definitely stalk turkeys! I do it when I need to and got my biggest long beard that way, just stay back and move slowly running when you need to but you must have cover and like my best bird if you end up having to stalk the whole flock for that gobbler you have to watch and keep track of all those turkeys and where they are looking.
As far as calls you don't have to be very good to call a gobbler you just have to call in the right place at the right time, all you need is to know the yelp to bring in a gobbler. Yelping alone will not bring in all turkeys so it's best to learn them all, I use many calls.

RIStrutStopper 02-27-2013 07:29 PM

Don't worry if your crow call is a little off. Don't worry if its a lot off. Just make it loud and annoying and they'll gobble. Just don't blow it too long or you may drown out the sound of the gobble with your call and never know they are there. Also, be careful stalking. One, if the turkey catches ANY movement, you're done. Two, if you do stalk up on one and someone else happens to be on that bird, you may catch a load of #6s in the face. Stalking turkeys isn't legal in my state, don't know where you're hunting but you should check the regs. A friend of mine almost bought a face full of shot when someone decided to put a stalk on his full strut decoy. He was hit in the face by the bark that was shot off of a nearby tree. Not saying don't do it, just know the laws and be careful! Good Luck!

Psylocide 02-28-2013 04:46 AM

Someone mentioned locating birds using an air horn... I don't think it takes much to get a shock gobble when they're all wound up.

OpticsCamp 02-28-2013 08:47 AM

Check your state's laws, I know that in my state it is illegal to stalk turkey.

Murdy 02-28-2013 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by RIStrutStopper (Post 4039253)
Just don't blow it too long or you may drown out the sound of the gobble with your call and never know they are there.

Except . . .
A couple years ago I was working my way down a little valley, hit the crow call every so often. I was about 3/4 ways through the valley and hadn't heard a thing. Then, a group of Canadian geese flew down the center of the valley making a racket. A turkey gobbled back behind me where I had just come through. Sometimes, I think, it takes a little more to get a response. Now, what I do when using a locator call is give it a short blow first, then, sometimes, follow it up with a longer call if I don't get a response on the first one.

w123t 02-28-2013 01:33 PM

What I frequently do is try a couple locator calls,like
Crow,owl, Canada goose. If none of them work---
Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't,
Then I'll try a couple hen yelps and wait a bit
In case a Tom is coming in quiet. With all
Calling I start not real loud and then up the
Volume if at first no response.

Traveling Fur Hunter 03-01-2013 07:21 AM

I've seen several calls. One is the wooden one, one is that clay with a stick I think. What are the different calls used for, and what noises do they make? Can turkeys see orange, or should I not wear it?

Psylocide 03-01-2013 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by Traveling Fur Hunter (Post 4039572)
I've seen several calls. One is the wooden one, one is that clay with a stick I think. What are the different calls used for, and what noises do they make? Can turkeys see orange, or should I not wear it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey_calls

I believe turkeys see color, but I don't think blaze orange is an issue unless you move. And that doesn't matter if you're wearing camo or not, movement gets you busted. They also have blaze orange that's broke up with camo pattern if you're worried about it.

Otherwise, you could walk in to your spot and walk out with blaze orange but stuff it when you're sitting next to your tree.

Traveling Fur Hunter 03-07-2013 07:03 AM

Do I use the crow call to locate one, then use the box call to bring them in? Or does locating and calling them in with a box call work better?

Psylocide 03-07-2013 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by Traveling Fur Hunter (Post 4041187)
Do I use the crow call to locate one, then use the box call to bring them in? Or does locating and calling them in with a box call work better?

Basically, you'd just want to use anything to get a shock gobble, then sneak within calling range, set up and call them in from there.

I would not use a box call to locate for two reasons, the first being if you're using the call to locate a bird, there could be a bird real close and you could be caught off guard if he came running to your yelping/clucking etc.

The second would be that it would be easy to overcall and educate the birds using a box call as a locator.

w123t 03-07-2013 07:29 AM

There are times when Tom turkey just will not
Respond to whatever you are trying to use
To induce a shock gobble. If you can get a
Shock gobble that is always best.

I've had good luck in those instances when the
Toms that I was reasonably sure should be
There but would not shock gobble, by using
A hen call and then sitting down and assuming
The birds heard the call and were coming in
Quietly, or they might gobble and come in.
Over calling is never a good thing. Doesn't
Always work but frequently enough that
It's worth a try on those days when you
Can't get a shock gobble.

Good luck

14 ga 03-08-2013 09:33 AM

knowledge
 
from your questions you seem to be looking for a quick fix. there ain't any, do your work, read and watch some video's or just decide to stay home and or get skunked so to speak, you're not ready and the season is about here

cheers


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