New Guy needs suggestions....
07-03-2012, 05:22 PM
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Spike
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New Guy needs suggestions....
I have a Rem 1100 12ga 3"mag with a .655 Hastings choke. I've been shooting Rem & Win #4 turkey loads. I'm not happy with the performance at 40 yrds. Can someone suggest a choke (Size-ID and Make) so I can turn this gun into a 40/50 yard performer with #4 shot? Help...
09-01-2012, 09:04 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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The individual pellets in a load of lead 4s will kill way out there but I have rarely encounted a shotgun that would produce what I called a good pattern with lead 4s at 40 yards. Never seen one that produced a good lead 4 pattern at 50.
This is the catch 22 situation of lead. Lead 4s and 5s will kill way out there if a pellet hits the right spot. But the patterns start falling apart badly at 35 yards. Lead 6s can get you a good pattern to 40 yards with the right gun and choke but at 40 yards you are on the edge of their consistently lethal range. At 50, you are beyond it.
That's where the denser than lead stuff comes in. First it out patterns lead and not just by a little bit. Second it penetrates better so you can shoot smaller shot and stay lethal farther out. Smaller sized shot means more pellets inside the shell and therefore denser patterns. Denser than lead 6 shot in Hevi-13, Wichester Extended range or the custom Nitros will kill to 50 yards and with the right choke maintain a killing pattern to that range. Good chokes for this shot are the Heavy-13 chokes, Primos Jellyhead, Rhino, and Indian Creek BDS.
This is the catch 22 situation of lead. Lead 4s and 5s will kill way out there if a pellet hits the right spot. But the patterns start falling apart badly at 35 yards. Lead 6s can get you a good pattern to 40 yards with the right gun and choke but at 40 yards you are on the edge of their consistently lethal range. At 50, you are beyond it.
That's where the denser than lead stuff comes in. First it out patterns lead and not just by a little bit. Second it penetrates better so you can shoot smaller shot and stay lethal farther out. Smaller sized shot means more pellets inside the shell and therefore denser patterns. Denser than lead 6 shot in Hevi-13, Wichester Extended range or the custom Nitros will kill to 50 yards and with the right choke maintain a killing pattern to that range. Good chokes for this shot are the Heavy-13 chokes, Primos Jellyhead, Rhino, and Indian Creek BDS.
Last edited by Todd1700; 09-02-2012 at 01:52 PM.
09-02-2012, 06:15 AM
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I am in the same camp as those suggesting that you work with the shot shell rather than change the choke tube. I use a .654 and went through several shot shells before settling in on my choice.
In my book, at the 40-50 yard range, regardless of shot shell, you are at the edge of consistent lethal range. I, like probably many other avid turkey hunters, have killed gobblers that far out or farther. I killed a nice gobbler several years back that turned out to be about 60 yards out .... frankly I had miss judged the distance and was thingking more like 45. But I am not all that comfrotable with shots beyond 40-45 yards and try by best to wait until the gobbler closes to within 30 or so.
In my book, at the 40-50 yard range, regardless of shot shell, you are at the edge of consistent lethal range. I, like probably many other avid turkey hunters, have killed gobblers that far out or farther. I killed a nice gobbler several years back that turned out to be about 60 yards out .... frankly I had miss judged the distance and was thingking more like 45. But I am not all that comfrotable with shots beyond 40-45 yards and try by best to wait until the gobbler closes to within 30 or so.
09-02-2012, 09:27 AM
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= Better pattern.
JMHO
09-05-2012, 12:21 AM
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Spike
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Choke for Remington
The only choke I use on my 870 is a TruGlo Gobble Stopper Extreme .665. At 40 yards it will put 196 pellets in an 8" paper plate. I've tried several loads and these results are with Hevi-13, 3", #7s. I don't have access to a longer shotgun range but with those numbers I'm confident I could cleanly take a turkey out to 50-55 yards. Hope this helps.