Hevi shot reviews
 

I've always had my doubts about hevi shot... I've only shot 2 turkeys with the stuff... One was about 50 yards away with Hevi13 #6's and i hit bird and watched him fly away... Looked for hours with no luck... I then bought a box of the HV13 #5's and shot a jake at about same distance... Hit bird and and knocked him down but had to finish him... Bird gave me a fit finishing him off...

I've done a lot of patterning with this stuff and it just doesent seem like it has the penetration like everybody claims...

I took some time this week end to just do some reading and did a few searchs on hevi shot reviews... And 99% of the reviews are about how great it patterns...

I hardly see any reviews on how well its destroyed gobblers at 40-50 plus yards...

And if I did see a negative review it was about how it didnt performe out at 45-50 yards...

I know this stuff patterns awsome compaired to anything else I've patterned... But I'm not worried about patterns... I want the stuff in my pattern to kill the dag gone bird...

So I guess what im getting at... Were is the kill reviews thats what I want to read!!! And not the ones at 20 and 30 yards...

With todays tight chokes and great patterns from heavier than lead shot, it is so important to make triple sure your Point of Aim, and your Point of Impact are dead on at 40 to 50 yds. A small variance at 20 yds turns out to be much larger at 50 yds. Also, energy level is another big factor in penetration and knockdown power.
I have shot an SP-10, using Nitro Heavier than lead loads for the last 6 years..over 50 birds..some out to 50 yds..only one needed a follow up shot.
My day is coming..I will aim bad, or misjudge the distance, but I've done everything I can to eliminate the mechanical factor..it's up to the human factor to do the rest.

Gman

50 yards and #6?......... in my book not a good idea... I like to shoot no further than 40 yards with #5's......can never really believe the hype on hunting gear. if so, I'd own alot more.......

The distance you're shooting is what I would consider max. I have however shot 55 yard with #5 and took a turkey, open field shot. I too had to step on the bird to finish him off. Last year I did I shoot close to the same distance and took another bird. That 1 shot didn't total kill that bird also. All shots 40yrds and closer, 1 shot dead bird. So I guess what I'm saying is, yes I'm happy with Hevi Shot #5.

One time I had a tom come in from behind me while I was aiming in the wrong direction. I had to hold my gun sideways and aim off to the side of the head at 8 feet. Killed the bird with 3 pellets in his head. Only shot I had and the bird had busted me.

The last few years I've been trying to fill 1 tag with my bow and 1 with my gun. So to me its been more of a challenge taking that first bird of the season with a bow vs the 12ga 3 1/2 #5 on the second bird.

Happy hunting. :)

Good luck with that bow thing lol... I doubt i'll ever try and chase public land gobblers with a bow!!! It's hard enough with a gun...

LB, I have done it a number of times with the 20 gauge at 50 yards and have done it on camera too. I don't promote that shot only tried it when testing the patterns and what range a 20 would be a true killer but what birds that were hit were not running they were down. They were down and I had to walk up and stand on their head and a couple were toast. Why well I can not tell you theat but have seen the same with other brands as well.

Just remember don't matter what gun your shooting the pattern will never be the same every shot...

Hevi-shot and Hevi-13 are two different loads. 2 years ago, I busted a tom at 46yds with Hevi-shot #6, he went down, but he flopped some.

Distance is the biggest consideration for shot size. Try going up to #4 shot and see what happens, but don't push it to stoopid distances. I'd try to limit my shots to 50 yds. If you want to test penetration at great distances (55+), do it on a target and not a turkey.

100% right !

What combo you working with, RR? I always had my best patterns and performance with Remington Wingmaster HD #6's and a jellyhead choke out of my old 870. This past season I went to a Mossberg 835 Ultimag with a 20" barrel...got tired of hanging every limb in the woods. My jellyhead choke for it patterns better than the factory one, but it isn't quite as good as the 870 was. I have tried the Wingmaster HD's, the Winchester Extended Range jokers, Remington Nitro, Hevi #7, Hevi #6 and Hevi #5/6/7 blend. Some, but little difference in ANY of them, other than the Winchester ER...they didn't perform as well as I had expected. They were the second best patterning load in my 870 (barely better than Hevi #6).

Wow...this got a bit long. I plan to do some extensive patterning tests in the coming weeks, so if you have something that works for you, let me know please...I know that doesn't mean it would work for me, but ain't gonna hurt anything to try it out!

Hevi-13 3 inch number 6 in 1 1 7/8 oz load.

Bird in open feild.
Walking by us and topography made it look closer than it was.
Board member Adrian Hare asks me if I can kill it while filming for DVD.
I respond "yup" (thinking it is about 45 yds)
Bird drops like a stone.
Shot paced off at 61 paces!

If you had of told me it was 60 yds I would not of shot. I guess you can criticze me for that but you can't criticize the load IMO.

(oh and this bird lived in Simcoe County Forest eh Adrian? that would make it a public land gobbler lol! Even tougher to drop!)

I don't have rights to the video footage but a pic of the bird with validation from one other guy who was there :p. The third guy took a jake early in the hunt to get something on film and we decided to wait it out to see if another one came in. I was the lucky shooter when the longbeard came along.

(also not afraid to show our mug. Can't say I've ever seen you post a pic Mr Longbeard?)

Just trying to think of others that can be validated. I remeber one with that famous 20 guage. Me filming this time. Having a helluva hard time filming around a huge maple tree while in a ground blind.

I told Adrian if he doesn't shoot I am going to have to move the whole tripod to the other side of the tree (whihc of course would get us busted). he takes the bird and it drops hard.

47 yds if I remember correctly. Hevi-13 #6 20 guage load. After the shot when I looked at it from my own eye instead of the lens of the camera on zoom I was shocked at how far out the bird was.

I think this is that bird. Too many pics with this ugly fellow to be sure it's the right one but I know it's the right place.

I like the boots the best ! :p

They do look like hip boots -

Dave.......JW

I have killed plenty beyond 30 yards with Hevi #7's, and Nitro hevi #7's. If you would like more testimonials to the effectiveness of Hevi #7's or #6's for that matter take a look at oldgobbler.com
Plenty of serious turkey hunters over there.

We don't go there anymore because we get kicked off over questioning the Mod :cool:

61 paces eh! If those paces were made by Adrian it was probably only a 25 yard shot LOL.

:eek2: Holly Smokes its not me the boots stick together , really its this far apart ! :arms:



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Lol... Dude i've got plenty of pic of me with public land pressured gobblers... I just dont tote a digital camera around in the woods with me... All i carry is a disposable walmart camera... So all my pics are on paper not a computer...
plus if i looked like you three clowns i'd think twice before posting them on the net lol!!!

Oh by the way... Nice of you guys to throw a bone to that other guy and let him shoot a jake... What's the deal with him... He dont have a few hundred acres full of turkeys to let you hunt on so he get the jake huh... Mighty generious of you...

I'm not sure how I got involved with this other then except I was there but the discussion was about hevi shot and as Longbeard looks at it that it don't kill turkeys out at a max range.

What bothers me here is that Longbeard seems to always have these negative thoughts on products that others seem to find ok.

Are they the best shell out there ? Really who knows , a lot of turkey hunters have also fell into a Nitro boat and they believe they are the bast ammo out there. I myself have tested both brands and nver seen much difference inbetween both products.

In the last few years ammo companies have came out with their own high end turkey ammo that all seem to work well and get the job done. Having the proper combo in a gun, choke and shell means a world of difference and to come up with that means to spend some money and test these products to the max and find the best for your turkey weapon.

I do a lot of talking/Typing on this such thing as I do a lot of testing. Building turkeys guns and finding the a combo that will work and work to the best for you and your gun, finding a combo that will perform to the guns max distance to take a gobbler that other wize just may not come any closer.

Why did we need to do all this ? well the sport has got so aggressive with turkey hunters and the Bird its self is smart enough that they have adapted to keep out away from that eithical range 25-30 yards and stay put wanting that hen to come to them. We as hunters have taken our step on creating a gun that will send out that load of turkey shot to the range that these birds have decided to stop and hold out for the hen.

I have became a hevi shot / hevi-13 user and have found combo's in different guns that will reach that unknown range that a lot of turkey hunters will not concider in a eithical shot. Why you must ask ? have I done so ? Over the years of guiding I have seen time and time again where clients have used a 20 gauge and have taken that 35-40 yard shot to only see a gobbler Jump in the air, flip over and fly away without being found. My thoughts or wonders were to try and change this gauge into a TRUE without a thought of worry of a miss out to that 40 yard mark. My expectations have been met with more of a step then most turkey hunters will care to trust. I have turned my 20 gauge into a true 50 yard turkey killing machine and I do not have to worry if I can make that shot at all. How do I know this ?

After putting together the gun I can concistantly shoot a pattern that will effectively drop a gobbler in his tracks. The pattern combo is a Pure gold choke in a .570 using Hevi-13, 3inch, #6, 1 3/8 oz load. Now would this gun combo work for any shell ?
Not likely, as the combo happened to be set for these type of shells. I have tested this choke with a Federal heavy weight turkey loads and have found that the patterns are a little less dence and would only set my mind back to only shooting 35-40 yards with mysetup as it is. Pure Gold has came out with a choke that is specially made for this ammo because of the wad that federal uses and how it is to work coming from a choked turkey gun.

Do any of the turkey ammo out there knock down and flaten a gobbler at 50 yards ? I'm sure the odd bird will always fall flat on the ground with the proper hit but on the most part we can not control how that pattern will make contact, but what we do control is the dencity and energy to effect a gobbler at our max distance that he can not move another foot other then flop and allow us enough time to walk up safely and stand on the head until the bird exspires.

I have never yet had a bird take off after a hit from my 20 gauge (and I talk 20 gauge because thats what I only use in the turkey woods) so in my mind, I have the perfect turkey gun for myself and this was all due to testing combo's until I found what I was after. I spent as much in turkey chokes on this gun as what I spent buying it just to do what I have now done and all I can do is spread my exsperence to other turkey hunters that have to wonder if this all works or not.

Since my findings I have helped a ton of turkey hunters here at home and maybe the odd one in the USA to setup their favorite gun into a turkey nightmare. I have seen the patterns from other guns and have to say that Remingtons, Mossburg's and Benelli's have all open my eyes to what they can acceive with the proper choke and shell combo's....

Are you callin me odd?:happy0157:
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:poke: LOL!!!!!

I believe the gun/choke/shell combo decides effectiveness. The first bird I took with my SBE II was with Nitro 4x5x7 in 3.5" out of a Jellyhead. 62 paces. I wasn't intending on going that far out but I had patterned at 30, 40, and 50 yards so I felt confident. Dropped dead.

Now, had I been using the high dollar Winchester shells that I had been successful with out of a Nova I once owned, I believe that birds flies off.