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Bigtimer 04-01-2011 10:55 PM

Worst patterns I've ever seen
 
Good Morning folks. You all would laugh at the patterns my new Winchester Super X3 throws. TERRIBLE!!!!! I tried every shell available in my area and can't get a good group. I'm shooting the SX3 with and Pure Gold .670 I'm not getting anywhere near the performance that you all are getting. In fact, my son's Remington 870 20 ga with a Jellyhead choke and 3" Winchester 6s shoots way better patterns than my gun. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

fletch920 04-01-2011 11:10 PM

I bought a new SX3 last year and had the same result. Never have found a shell and choke combo in 3 1/2" that is even marginally good. Very expensive paper weight at this point.

Bigtimer 04-02-2011 03:31 AM


Originally Posted by fletch920 (Post 3794045)
I bought a new SX3 last year and had the same result. Never have found a shell and choke combo in 3 1/2" that is even marginally good. Very expensive paper weight at this point.

That's not what I wanted to hear but it looks as though I'm gonna have problems:mad:. I should have bought an 870 and a jellyhead.

Turkey Goddess 04-02-2011 06:16 AM

That is disappointing.... Maybe someone will have some good advice for you. I shoot an 870 - so I can't offer any suggestions.

Kim :)

Hurricanespg 04-02-2011 06:27 AM

The SX3 is definitely capable of putting up some big numbers with its backbored barrel and invector plus choke system.

Were you shooting at a large piece of paper to make sure that the gun is shooting to point of aim?

Have you tried to adjust the stock with the drop and cast shims?

What kind of shells were you using?

Short of Nitro's, I have had my best patterns with an Indian Creek .675 shooting Hevi-13 3.5" 2.25oz #7's. Having said that Hevi-13 3.5" 2.25oz #6's, Hevi-13 3" 2oz #7's and #6's all performed very well too.

Mr. Longbeard 04-02-2011 09:48 AM

99.9% of the post on hear are about people shooting Benelli's Remingtons and Mossbergs... Getting great patterns...

Only thing that i buy that Winchester makes is SHELLS!!!!

Sell that paper weight and go by a Remington 870 super mag:wink:

dawei 04-02-2011 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by Bigtimer (Post 3794043)
Good Morning folks. You all would laugh at the patterns my new Winchester Super X3 throws. TERRIBLE!!!!! I tried every shell available in my area and can't get a good group. I'm shooting the SX3 with and Pure Gold .670 I'm not getting anywhere near the performance that you all are getting. In fact, my son's Remington 870 20 ga with a Jellyhead choke and 3" Winchester 6s shoots wat better patterns that my gun. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Are you shooting Pb or HTL? What loads have you tried so far?

jepcho 04-02-2011 10:39 AM

One of my buddies has that gun and has gotten good patterns out of it. I know he bought an aftermarket choke tube but I'm not sure what brand. I could ask him for you. I would strongly suggest trying a couple different tubes. I shoot an undertaker choke in my 11-87 and it patterns awesome!! I think they sell for only like $20 or so. A small fee considering what you paid for the gun. The gun should be capable of patterning well. You've tried different shells, the next step would be chokes.

Bigtimer 04-02-2011 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by dawei (Post 3794188)
Are you shooting Pb or HTL? What loads have you tried so far?

Not sure what you are refering to when you say: Pb or HTL????????????

hunt12ga 04-02-2011 06:34 PM

Lead or Heavier-than-lead (hevi-shot, etc)

rw

jgreen76 04-02-2011 08:44 PM

Just had a friend that bought one of these guns and he ordered a TRUGLO choke for it and brought it to my work to pattern it... IT DID GREAT for a inexpensive choke.. $17 i think he ordered it from them direct.. but for $20 or less it may be worth a try

gun870guy 04-03-2011 02:06 AM

I'm pretty sure it says not to use a full choke on this gun in the users guide.
I shoot the mod invector tube and kill birds. You guys countin pellets is pretty funny to lsiten to tho

Bigtimer 04-03-2011 03:21 AM

I'm hunting with 3.5" hevi 13 #7s if that helps.

Adrian J Hare 04-03-2011 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by gun870guy (Post 3794349)
I'm pretty sure it says not to use a full choke on this gun in the users guide.
I shoot the mod invector tube and kill birds. You guys countin pellets is pretty funny to lsiten to tho


I've never hear dof such a thing. Your using a Mod choke so a full choke is not any harder on the gun it only the way it forum the shot...

dawei 04-03-2011 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by Bigtimer (Post 3794297)
Not sure what you are refering to when you say: Pb or HTL????????????

Pb = Lead
HTL = Heavier than Lead such as Hevi•Shot®, Federal® Heavyweight®, Remington® Wingmaster HD®, and Winchester® Xtended Range™.

Bigtimer 04-03-2011 10:51 PM

OK folks I have something to confess:s14:. Primos named one of their chokes after me, the tightwad. Let me explain. When I first started sighting the gun in I used regular old #7 dove loads just to get on paper at 20 yards. I then moved back to 40 yards and shot some Winchester 3&1/2", #6s. The patterns were terrible. I did this thinking that the difference between the Winchesters and the Hevy 13 #7s couldn't be that much after doing some post from you all there is a huge difference between the two. I'm going out tomorrow with my Hevi 13s and shoot it again at a much larger target and see what happens. I wonder if I can get more Hevi 13 #7s within a week? I know, I know, I should have known better and sighted in with what I intend to hunt with :s7:.

RockyMtnGobblers 04-04-2011 08:22 AM

I shoot the Rem 870 sup. mag myself and love the tight patterns I get with many dif. shells. You might have some luck contacting the manufacture and finding out what they recommend for your shotgun in order to get the best pattern.

Bible_Man 04-04-2011 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by RockyMtnGobblers (Post 3794848)
I shoot the Rem 870 sup. mag myself and love the tight patterns I get with many dif. shells. You might have some luck contacting the manufacture and finding out what they recommend for your shotgun in order to get the best pattern.

If he's shooting a Winchester gun, I could all but guarantee what they would recommend...Winchester Supreme Extended Range. Their priciest shells. They are some pretty good shells, though. I got decent patterns out of them...when I patterned for my gun they came in 4th...behind 1)Rem Wingmaster HD # 6's, 2) Hevi-13 # 7's, 3) Hevi-13 # 6's. They all patterned better than the lead loads I tried out.

Bigtimer 04-04-2011 03:21 PM

I went back to the range today with some Hevi 13 #7s and the patterns that I got were much better. I have to get some more ammo here by the weekend. Thanks for all the advice.

Hurricanespg 04-04-2011 04:07 PM

Glad you got it shooting the way you wanted.

Bigtimer 04-04-2011 08:27 PM

Thanks for all the help!!!


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