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Shoulder Strap 02-18-2010 05:38 PM

turkey age
 
Whats the best way to age a gobbler? I know the spurs and the beard are some deciding factors, but how does that break down in inches? Does spurs, a certain length,tell you the age of the bird?

JW 02-18-2010 05:44 PM

I don't use beard at all but use spurs to age



The longer the spur is, the sharper it is with a good hook at the end is what I look for if I can.

JW

kingvjack 02-18-2010 05:54 PM

After 2 years.... Its really not possible... I've seen some friggin huge 3 year olds.... up to 2 years you can pretty much judge age by spurs/beard....

Shoulder Strap 02-18-2010 05:54 PM

thank jw thats very informitive

mouthcaller 02-19-2010 04:18 AM

The spur is how you do it as JW has pointed out.

The beard can be used to distingusih a juvenile (Jake) from an adult. Generally a second season ("two year old) bird had a beard around 8 inches. Beyond that the beard doesn't help determind age. I've killed 4-5year old turkeys with skinny little beards and three year old birds with long thick beards.

JW 02-19-2010 05:38 AM

Even with spurs age is tough to judge. Harsh terrain does wear on pointed tips.

But what I have seen - a bump both sides for a spur measuring up to 7/8" inch more than likely a 2 yr old.

Spurs over an inch and sharp to a point 3 yrs and hooked and really sharp could be 4 yrs.

That is for Easterns from what I have witnessed.

JW

kingvjack 02-19-2010 05:43 AM

Actually, now that I think about it... who cares?

Once you pull that trigger, he aint gettin any older:s4:

Screamin Steel 02-19-2010 09:03 AM

In my area of PA, two year olds are usually about 3/4-7/8" and still blunt. A three year old is right about 1" or 1 1/8" and sharp. A four year old is a tad longer and starting to hook a bit...after that it's anyone's guess. Lovett E williams says that a beard grows about 5" a year, but after 10" on average the end starts to wear as they step on it alot when scratching and feeding, etc...also heard many old timers blame it on ice in the beard breaking the tip off, even hens pecking at it in a display of dominance...sorta trying to knock him down a couple rungs. My wife could relate to that! LOL Beard aging is basically useless beyond two years.

Screamin Steel 02-19-2010 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by mouthcaller (Post 3579782)
The spur is how you do it as JW has pointed out.

The beard can be used to distingusih a juvenile (Jake) from an adult. Generally a second season ("two year old) bird had a beard around 8 inches. Beyond that the beard doesn't help determind age. I've killed 45year old turkeys with skinny little beards and three year old birds with long thick beards.

LOL a "45 year old turkey" is a smart, ol hook spurred gobbler for sure. I suspect there arae a few of them in my woods, that's why I can't get 'em!:poke:

doall hunter 02-20-2010 04:17 AM


Originally Posted by JW! (Post 3579626)
I don't use beard at all but use spurs to age



The longer the spur is, the sharper it is with a good hook at the end is what I look for if I can.

JW

I think that chart is a little short. I've always though a 4 yr old bird was getting close to 1/2 inches. Maybe not though I am no turkey biologist.:poke:

Adrian J Hare 02-20-2010 04:24 AM

This sure suprises me because it is a known fact that this is the only indication of age with gobblers. Yes you do see spurs wore off and that are only 1/2 or even broke, but it is clear that the spur if properly grown would have been the proper length. I shot \a Rio one time in KA and one side was 1in and the other was a 1/2 in but with the rounded ends I could see that the bird was 3 years old easy. Terrian can change the spurs, but on the most part out of the 15 States I've been most of them are not worn off.

Here in Ontario I took a Tagged bird with 1 3/8 spurs and when the numbers where sent in and came back that bird traveled 40 miles and was 5 years old , so I would say the chart is real close to the Stats I got from the MNR..

mouthcaller 02-20-2010 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by Screamin Steel (Post 3579991)
LOL a "45 year old turkey" is a smart, ol hook spurred gobbler for sure. I suspect there arae a few of them in my woods, that's why I can't get 'em!:poke:


Ha - glad to provide a source of humor for the board

Meant to type "4 - 5

Original post edited.

MC

JW 02-20-2010 07:30 AM

Good point - agree - long pointy spurs - bird ain't stupid!

JW


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