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What is the better combination shot from nitro in your opinion? Do you prefer the 4's, 5's, 6's or the 4's, 5's, 7's? Does anyone know the count of each shot sizein these combinations? Doesone have more knockdown power than the other or pattern better than the other? Do you prefer the Hevi-Shot over the Copper plated?

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I prefer straight #7's in hevi shot. If you get the 4x5x7's or 4x5x6's the #7's are giving you the killing power; the larger shot is just in there to fill space and make people feel more comfortable about using smaller shot.
The straight #7's give you a better pattern due to more pellets being in the load, and retain killing power easily to 70 yards.
On the Nitro website they give you a breakdown of how many pellets of each size are in an ounce.
If you are paying Nitro prices you might as well get the hevi shot and take advantage of the added range.

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I think you got that backwards. The #7 shot is the filler shot and fills in your pattern. I have been using their 4x5x7 shell for years without any issues. I counted an honest 316 pellets inside a 10" circle at 40 yards with this particular load. Canada can't use #7 sized shot, so going with a #6 will fiil the bill there.;)

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I use the Nitro Triplex 4X5X7 in the 3.5", 2.25 oz load. I shoot the Mossberg 835 with a Star Dot .676. I use this load because the local dealer in my town carries it but doesn't typically carry the straight 7s in the 3.5" 12ga load.

I both agree but somewhat disagree with Hurricanespq. While I agree that the 7s comprise most of the load and, therefore, fill most of the pattern, my patterning work shows clearly that the larger shot sizes are definitely in the pattern. Since each shot from the gun is different who knows whatpellets, or more appropriately, combo ofpellets, killed the turkey.

Looking at the pattern I can clearly see where the larger shot sizes in present in the 10" ring.

Since switching to this load and my current gun/choke I have killed turkeys cleanly at 47, 49, 51, 61, and 63 yards. One shot, bang flop. What more could you ask for?????

I've got no issue with straight 7s. I wil likely try them if I can get my hands on some. With the results I'm getting with the triplex load, why should I change?

RE: NITRO USERS
 

If you will look at your patterns, and even at the pattern posted above by mouthcaller you will see that the majority of the pellets in the 10" circle are #7's (or even smaller). The #7's do the bulk of the work, the rest of the shot is just in there for filler and to make people feel better about shooting smaller shot. Nothing wrong at all with shooting the 4x5x7 loads, but its still the #7's that make the load so deadly.

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Absolutely. The 4's and 5's are for the hunter. But the 7's account for the impressive patterns and kill the the turkey. LOL! No worries whichever way you go though. There are more than enough of the 7's in the duplex loads to get the job done.

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If legal where you are go with the straight 7's. A nitro #7 is as heavy as a lead #5, so at the same velocity it carries as much energy. Because the pellets are a smaller diameter they are met with less air resistance than the larger sizes, therefore they retain higher velocities downrange which makes them retain more energy than the larger pellets at longerdistances. This is why people are having good results with straight 7's out to 70 yards. A 2 ounce load of Nitro#7's contains 684 pellets, a 2 ounce load of lead #5's has only 340 pellets; that's just over twice the pellet count.

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I'm sorry but you are a idot!!! if you think that #7 heavy shot will kill turkeys out to 70 yards!!!!


I've shot turkeys at 50 yards with Hevi13 #6's and had them fly off and that was the best pattern I've ever had

I switched to Hevi13 #5's this spring and shot a jake a 50 yards... The bird was still alive when I walked up to get him... I had to dispatch him

And before you go there... I had a Indian Creek choke and at 50 yards I'm getting at least 8 hits in the vitals(brain neck vertebra)with the #5's


The biggest surprise to me is the fact that this forum is full of supposedly turkey killing experts and nobody say's anything when people post this BS


Theres a book out that you might want to read. It's called "the world is full of stupid people and I can prove it" You should check it out!!!

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Well if that guy is an idiot then you're a bad shot! Just because you shot at a Jake at 50 yards and had to dispatch him doesn't mean that your gun/load isn't capable of doing so. I shot a 3 year old with 3.5" Hevi 13 # 5's at 47 yards and my buddy used my gun to shoot a 26 lb. bird at 49 yards. These yardages are close enough to 50 fyi. Both birds were stone cold dead. We both shoot with shooting sticks though and know we're dead on with our shooting. Do I think Hevi shot #7 can kill out to 70 yards? YES. Not with my choke but with a Rhino definately!

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Now that you have opened your mouth and inserted your foot again you might want to get your facts straight when it comes to penetration.
I believe we have had this little discussion before so I don't expect you to actually go out and do any pentration tests, but if you will just look around at some of the tests done you will see that hevi #7's do indeed kill turkeys out to 70 yards (every year I might add).

Then you obviously either a). did not have an adequate pattern at that range b). did not aim at the correct point on the bird c). did not shoot where you thought you were aiming, or d). all of the above. I recommend you correct all three before trying such endeavors in the future.

I'm sorry but if you cannot dispatch a bird at 50 yards with any kind of hevi #5's at 50 yards (which is like the equivalant of lead #3's) then once again you as a shooter have done something wrong. See a b c from above, and correct all three before shooting at this distance again.

I don't really care what kind of shell or choke combo you were using. The fact is if you are using Hevi-13 #6's or #5's and shooting turkeys at 50 yards and they "fly off" or are still alive when you walk up to them then you (as a shooter) are not doing something right. See a b c from above, and once again correct before trying to shoot at that distance........Don't blame the pellet size for your failures as a shooter.
As a side note, and an experienced turkey hunter like yourself should know this, you should not base how good of a pattern you have based on how many pellets you have in the vitals of a turkey target. It is misleading at best, and downright disrespectful to the bird at worst.

It has been proven time and time again that Hevi-13 #6's penetrate more than lead #4's at 40 and 50 yards and that is spotting the lead load over 200fps. It has also been proven time and time again that hevi #7's penetrate better than lead #5's at the same ranges.

As I stated before I don't expect you to actually do any kind of penetration tests to find out for yourself...although it would be nice if you tried.....the least you could do is an internet search on tests that have been done. Talk to some of the serious turkey hunters over on oldgobbler.com. There is a lot you could learn, and from the sounds of it a lot you need to learn.

Lastly, I have no problem with anyone disagreeing with me, but to resort to name calling is and should be beneath you. If you were speaking to me in person you would not conduct yourself in such a manner. The same should be expected of you over the internet.