Choke question updated with pics
 

I have an old 3 1/2" Remington Express Super mag.


I don't hunt turkey enough to justify a new more expensive gun but would like to get the most out of it.The thing kicks like a mule and I was wanting a ported tube that will help with recoil and give me the absolute best pattern I can get.

I will be putting a sims pad and will be mounting a red dot (allready have) to it.

What would be the best choke tube to look at for this gun.

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Primos Jellyhead. Trust me. I was told to get that choke after my Mossberg was getting below average patterns and it made a night and day difference. The Jellyhead is a very good choke, give it a try and wont be disappointed.

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Hard to say on the choke question. You can try 2 exact guns with the exact shell and the exact choke and one will work well and the other might not, go figure. The only tried and true method (which can get expensive I know) is to try a couple of different choke / shell patterns. I've worked up a 1/2 dozen guns of all different kinds and you would be amazed (in some instances, not all) how one gun/choke/shell combination will work gangbusters and if you simply switch pellet size (changing nothing else) you won't be able to get a pellet on the paper.

Bottom line, get a choke or two (might buy them used or borrow someone elses from thier gun if it will fit yours) buy a box or two of different shells and go to the pattern board.

Its fun work and you WILL NOT be dissappointed when you get finished.

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Alot of chokes will work just fine. I use a ported Carlsons with excellent results, but I a, going to try an Indian Creek choke in the future, maybe.I want a red dot scope too though.

Good call on the scope, I want one bad.

I would instead buy one good choke and then leave the experimenting to the shells. Cheaper way to find a good combo.

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I have a primos jellyhead in my benelli right now, and it works pretty good. just ordered an indian creek a couple days ago looking forward to seeing what it can do

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Thanks for the replies,not sure which way to go.I Have a cheaper turkey choke in it now,not sure what brand or ID but I really would like some recoil reduction with a ported one.

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you said its a 3 1/2 inch magnum, are you shooting 3 1/2 magnum shells out of it? The easier fix might be just to go to a 2 3/4 inch turkey load. you will lose a few pellets but not enough to make a difference. Just a thought.

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I actually was getting the best pattern with 3" shells so that was the majority of what I shot.

I would like to get the full benefit of 3 1/2's and feel I need a new choke.If I am going to shoot them,ported will be a must.I have access to a caldwell lead sled so patterning the gun won't hurt,just don't want to break my shoulder when I shoot a turkey.:D


The cost of a new choke really isn't that big of a deal,just not willing to spend several hundred for a new gun.Especially since I have a new bow on order.Turkey hunting with a shotgun isn't my passion but I enjoy it from time to time.


I let a friend borrow this gun and the 3 1/2"s I had.He shot the gun from a kneeling position and ended up on his back side.:DHe then returned the gun and bought a Benelli.[:o]

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I'd suggest trying some chokes against each other.

Here is a link on how to do just that...

http://www.outdoorfreaks.net/joomla/...tml&Itemid=165

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I prefer Indian Creek choke tubes as they have preformed well in several of my shotguns, but I honestly do not think that the ported model of any choke tube is going to give you a noticeable difference in recoil. As suggested above you might try using a lighter load, that and the sims pad will make quite a bit of difference.

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If the 3" inch shells gave you the best patterns, I'd be shooting them. If the 3 1/2" shells aren't patterning as well, then there is no benefit to shooting them, you're just blowing your shoulder out of socket for nothing. Whatever puts the most pellets in the bird is what I shoot.

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There are certain advantages to testing chokes, but all in all, I agree. MOST if not all of todays loads will put birds on the ground.

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I agree,that is why I am wanting a new choke,so I can get the 3 1/2 to pattern just as well.Would like to extend the range of the gun but really don't want to get hurt in the process.[&:]

My stepdad has the same gun but he got his barrel ported and he said it made a noticable difference,if a tube won't do what I want,I might look into doing that.


I am definately going to put a sims pad on,regardless of what else I do.

Again,thanks.

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I think I just found my problem.My tube is a .640 and that is probably just too tigh and causing the recoil problems along with opening the groups up when more and or bigger shot is used.I have always had better luck with smaller shot.

I might open it up myself and port it just to see what happens.I am a tool maker by trade so this is something I can do myself.

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I would try a Remington Factory super full turkey choke ;)They pattern good out of all my (3) remington turkey guns;);)

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I made the jump and bought a Kick's .665 choke tube.It is ported so I really expected a little improvement but not too much.


I also got a scope mount so I can use my red dot scope that I had laying around.


I must say that my initial opinion is a noticable difference in recoil.I shot a couple 3 1/2" 5's at 30 yards and the patterern was very tight,then I shot my last #4 at 20 just to see what would happen and it blew my board into about 3 pieces.:D

Usually 3 shots out of this gun would have me in quite a bit of pain but my shoulder was fine.

I think I have a good combo now and should be able to use 4's out to about 40 or so but some more patterning will be done first.

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Winchester Supreme Elite Xtended Range Hi-Density Turkey Loads in 3.5" 2 oz #6 will more than likely give you the best patterns at longer shots

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If you got their Gobblin Thunder turkey choke I would not recommend using the Winchester Supreme Elite Xtended Range shells or any heavier than lead load. The Kicks choke is not rated for heavier than lead loads.

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I would test the 3in instead of the 3.5 in a Winchester HV #6 I would not shoot Hevi shot of any kind out of your choke if it is not rated for it.

Its to bad that you didn't get a .660 for copper/Lead loads but the .665 may shoot to your liking.

Good camo pattern on that gun and nice sock :D

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I have a Mossberg 835 and I'm using a Indian Creek Choke, Hevi-Shot 13, 3.5", 2-1/4oz, #5

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I have the Gobblin Thunder and I am not worried about heavy loads.I am just not going to pay the extra cash for them.:D

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You don't feel ANY recoil when you shoot a turkey. Something about that moment. The led sled is your best bet if you do insist on using the 3.5''. I don't think you need the 3.5 either. Just overkill. You can get a good combo at 3 inch. Just takes time and $$ to figure out how. Really though, and others tell me if I'm wrong, do you notice the recoil when you shoot a gobbler? I flinch on the range sometimes. I admit it! Never think of it when I'm squeezing down on the real thing.

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I haven't felt it on a live turkey either but I would hate to have a mishap and be too close to the tree behind me.I would feel that.[&:][8D]